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Old 2014-08-26, 08:28   Link #6441
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Let's be honest, compared to Nero who did same thing for fun, Syura still had pretty good reasons...
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Old 2014-08-26, 08:34   Link #6442
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~rabac escape plan~
1. kill shura
2. steal shambala
3. teleport outside capital
4. ez escape, ez life
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Old 2014-08-26, 08:49   Link #6443
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Let's be honest, compared to Nero who did same thing for fun, Syura still had pretty good reasons...
Wait, Nero had the better reason, he is a poetic after all.

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~rabac escape plan~
1. kill shura
2. steal shambala
3. teleport outside capital
4. ez escape, ez life
Since when one can use a teigu instantly without checking compatibility first? Furthermore, I remember Syura must prepare a gate at his target point before teleporting, he can't use it at will.
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Old 2014-08-26, 08:54   Link #6444
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Am I the only one realizing how genius Takahiro connects the dots between story events?

As examples:
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Najenda - "The Path of Peace is the key to everything"

The Great Lord is half Danger Beast, that's why he has paranormal powers.However, he doesn't know he is.

Borick infiltrated the Organization for the Empire to find out why.

Blood Samples were taken from the Great Lord to research on.

That research was done by Stylish who figured out the Great Lords being.

Insert the fact that Stylish was experimenting on Humans turning them into Danger Beasts.

After he died, Syura a friend of Stylish released them all.

Run investigated the whole affair and found out the truth about them.

This led to Wild Hunt being disbanded.

As well as Dorothea getting her hands on Stylish's research.

The PM has a request for her.

The Path of Peace seek an armed uprising against the Empire.

The Revolutionary Army plan to use that for their advantage.

Again:
The Path of Peace is the key to everything.

Remembering that:
Tatsumi's village was visited by them at some point.
That the Statue given to Tatsumi belonged to them.
When given to him he was told "God will surely save you if you keep it close"
Great Lord is regarded as God Like
Great Lord has the power of prophecies
Tatsumi was saved from being killed by Akame due to the Statue
Great Lord saw had a prophecy about Mine and Tatsumi
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Old 2014-08-26, 09:14   Link #6445
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Remembering that:
1. Tatsumi's village was visited by them at some point.
2. That the Statue given to Tatsumi belonged to them.
3. When given to him he was told "God will surely save you if you keep it close"
4. Great Lord is regarded as God Like
5. Great Lord has the power of prophecies
6. Tatsumi was saved from being killed by Akame due to the Statue
7. Great Lord saw had a prophecy about Mine and Tatsumi
1. Since when was it mentioned that the path of the peace visited Tatsumi's village.
2&3. The statue is like a guardian god for the village, it has nothing to do with the path of the peace.
4. That's because of his prophecy powers.
5. The great lord has said, it only activates occasionally.
6. What does that have to do with the path of the peace
7. Well he only saw the two of them together twice and thought that they were lovers.
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Old 2014-08-26, 09:19   Link #6446
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Am I the only one realizing how genius Takahiro connects the dots between story events?

As examples:
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Najenda - "The Path of Peace is the key to everything"

The Great Lord is half Danger Beast, that's why he has paranormal powers.However, he doesn't know he is.

Borick infiltrated the Organization for the Empire to find out why.

Blood Samples were taken from the Great Lord to research on.

That research was done by Stylish who figured out the Great Lords being.

Insert the fact that Stylish was experimenting on Humans turning them into Danger Beasts.

After he died, Syura a friend of Stylish released them all.

Run investigated the whole affair and found out the truth about them.

This led to Wild Hunt being disbanded.

As well as Dorothea getting her hands on Stylish's research.

The PM has a request for her.

The Path of Peace seek an armed uprising against the Empire.

The Revolutionary Army plan to use that for their advantage.

Again:
The Path of Peace is the key to everything.

Remembering that:
Tatsumi's village was visited by them at some point.
That the Statue given to Tatsumi belonged to them.
When given to him he was told "God will surely save you if you keep it close"
Great Lord is regarded as God Like
Great Lord has the power of prophecies
Tatsumi was saved from being killed by Akame due to the Statue
Great Lord saw had a prophecy about Mine and Tatsumi
I don't know about the Path of Peace conspiracies, but I do believe the Danger Beast experiments have a bigger plot later on.

It sounds like the mangaka plans on having a mutant disaster in the Empire in the future.

Esdeath better be loyal, or she will be tricked into transforming into a Danger beast hound (or the equivalent.)
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Old 2014-08-26, 09:37   Link #6447
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well considering Esdeath's current standing...
the PM might as well be trying to build up a force in case he needed to dispose of her...
or she turned her back at him...
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Old 2014-08-26, 11:47   Link #6448
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1. Since when was it mentioned that the path of the peace visited Tatsumi's village.
2&3. The statue is like a guardian god for the village, it has nothing to do with the path of the peace.
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ch28, page 16
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Old 2014-08-26, 12:01   Link #6449
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ch28, page 16
Okay thanks for chapter and page. I must have missed that part. Sorry.
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Old 2014-08-26, 12:17   Link #6450
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I wonder if we will see Budo in a chapter or so. Would seem weird to skip him since Tatsumi and based Rabac are in the Palace.
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Old 2014-08-26, 12:30   Link #6451
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Why I have feeling that anime will skip whole Najenda's flashback about Esdese destroying sounthern tribes. Such shame that adaptation sucks.
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Old 2014-08-26, 12:36   Link #6452
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Why I have feeling that anime will skip whole Najenda's flashback about Esdese destroying sounthern tribes. Such shame that adaptation sucks.
It's maybe the case since those scene is a little too violent to be aired. But I don't think it really matters, since having that part of the story or not is not really affected the story anyway, or Najenda can just briefly summarize them without getting into details.
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Old 2014-08-26, 12:37   Link #6453
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The point behind that Scene was that Syura simply lost it.
Insanity over getting told so hard by his Father.
He can't stand to lose,get told or not being dominant, if he does he snaps and goes psycho bonkers.


Then again, Syura has a major streak of being incompetent as well.=/

Knocked out by Wave
Got told by Budou
Kicked by Tatsumi
Punched by Budou
Owned by Run, long before he knew he was owned
His Unit disbanded
His plan to frame Jäger failed big time
Got wrecked by his Dad
Frees a prisoner leading to his apparent Death

He's about as rotten as it gets, but he fails HARD at the things he does and wants to do.
Fixed that for you, the depth of Syura's fail only becomes clearer the more you think about it.
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Old 2014-08-26, 13:23   Link #6454
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The point behind that Scene was that Syura simply lost it.
Insanity over getting told so hard by his Father.
He can't stand to lose,get told or not being dominant, if he does he snaps and goes psycho bonkers.


Then again, Syura has a major streak of being incompetent as well.=/

Knocked out by Wave
Got told by Budou
Kicked by Tatsumi
Punched by Budou
Owned by Run
His Unit disbanded
His plan to frame Jäger failed big time
Got wrecked by his Dad
Frees a prisoner leading to his apparent Death

He's about as rotten as it gets, but he fails HARD at the things he does and wants to do.
Wow. I knew he was an idiot, but when you line up everything in one list (and it's probably not all of them; you may be missing one or two more. Maybe.), you can clear see how incompetence he really was.

Well, like I said, I'm glad he's dead.
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Old 2014-08-26, 13:28   Link #6455
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Wow. I knew he was an idiot, but when you line up everything in one list (and it's probably not all of them; you may be missing one or two more. Maybe.), you can clear see how incompetence he really was.

Well, like I said, I'm glad he's dead.
I'm sad he's dead, it was fun to watch him fail miserably.

At least he died doing what he does best, which is being an idiot.
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Old 2014-08-26, 13:30   Link #6456
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I'm sad he's dead, it was fun to watch him fail miserably.

At least he died doing what he does best, which is being an idiot.
I agree to an extent, but on the other hand, he always gave me a bad taste in my mouth with every panel he showed up in.
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Old 2014-08-26, 13:39   Link #6457
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I'm sad he's dead, it was fun to watch him fail miserably.

At least he died doing what he does best, which is being an idiot.
shura was made only to be hated by reader.
and we really hate him, i think he is succesful as a villain
similar to sugou (sao)
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Old 2014-08-26, 14:10   Link #6458
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I personally loved Syura. Why?

It was because of him that Esdeath and Tatsumi were able to spend a short honeymoon vacation on a beautiful Island. We got several MOE moments, including the one where she pulled out a sketch pad.

Syura the Matchmaker was a more fitting title for him.
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Old 2014-08-26, 14:36   Link #6459
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I personally loved Syura. Why?

It was because of him that Esdeath and Tatsumi were able to spend a short honeymoon vacation on a beautiful Island. We got several MOE moments, including the one where she pulled out a sketch pad.

Syura the Matchmaker was a more fitting title for him.
AAARRRGGHHH!!! HOW HAVE I NEVER NOTICED!?!?!

but yea, i liked syura as a villain.

as villains go it was easy to hate him, the things he did and who he was and you WANTED him to suffer. that's exactly what you want from a villain. i think he did a good job on those parts
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Old 2014-08-26, 14:47   Link #6460
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1. Since when was it mentioned that the path of the peace visited Tatsumi's village.
2&3. The statue is like a guardian god for the village, it has nothing to do with the path of the peace.
4. That's because of his prophecy powers.
5. The great lord has said, it only activates occasionally.
6. What does that have to do with the path of the peace
7. Well he only saw the two of them together twice and thought that they were lovers.
1. Same Chapter the Organization was introduced.Chapter 28
2 and 3. Also Chapter 28, Tatsumi says it was from them from when they visited the village.
4. Well duh.Point is the Great Lord is regarded like a God while Tatsumi was told "God will surely save you if you keep it close" when being given that statue which belonged to the Organization where this "God" is the leader.
5. It activates occasionally doesn't change he has such powers.
6. Again, it belonged to the Organization lead by a guy with legit prophecy powers who for an unknown reason visited the village.Point 4 connection.
7. Yeah I know.The point we know for a fact he is aware of Tatsumi and Mine even before he met them.He literally says they are connected by a Red String.That's why I'm suspicious about
The Path of Peace having just wandered into Tatsumi's village leaving behind the statue.
Statue was given to Tatsumi.
"God will surely save you" when it was given to him.
God = Great Lord
Great Lord has the power of prophecy.
Statue save Tatsumi's life.
Joins Night Raid.
Meets Mine.
Red String:
"According to this myth, the gods tie a red cord around the ankles of those that are to meet one another in a certain situation or help each other in a certain way."
Yeah, Gods bringing people together.
That Statue literally ensured Tatsumi meets Mine.


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I don't know about the Path of Peace conspiracies, but I do believe the Danger Beast experiments have a bigger plot later on.
Not a conspiracy.It's that their center of the Plot.
As I said, Stylish received blood samples about the Great Lord thanks to Borick, thus found out he is half Danger Beast which should be impossible.
Stylish experiments with Humans turning them into Danger Beasts.
Elementary - Stylish begun with those Experiments due to the Great Lord.
And as we know, those Experiments play a major role in the story, with Run,Wild Hunt,a short arc being about them and now Dorothea continuing the Experiments.
Those experiments already have a big plot.
And it all leads back to the Great Lord who's existence should be impossible and it's reason for it having yet to be explained.

Like Najenda said the Path of Peace is the key to everything.

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