No Game No Life - Episode 12 (END) Discussion / Poll

[kukuru]

Well there has to be a certain amount of surrealism here. Otherwise you can't move the audience's heart strings.

It would have been better if a lot of things changed to make the plan more robust like having Steph use a heart bomb instead, which wouldn't even need aiming or heart power. But then that would be dreadfully less wow factor then a shot in the back of the head after claiming she won. (that facal feature on a zapped izuna was great)

[Iron Maw]

Wouldn't that require a lot of energy though? Which is constantly being drained by the NPC might I add.

[Ickarium]

Likely. IMO, it's totally feasible /within the bounds established by show/. It's totally possible to figure out NPC movement patterns, good gamers do it all the time. What's impossible is to predict them to such a degree you can make judgements for hours later.

But this is Shiro, who has been presented to be just /that impossibly badass/ with calculations and predictions. She's a Lensman human. Works for me.

[kukuru]

Originally Posted by Ickarium

Likely. IMO, it's totally feasible /within the bounds established by show/. It's totally possible to figure out NPC movement patterns, good gamers do it all the time. What's impossible is to predict them to such a degree you can make judgements for hours later.

But this is Shiro, who has been presented to be just /that impossibly badass/ with calculations and predictions. She's a Lensman human. Works for me.

If one thinks about it, double jumping is also impossible no matter how much you break the human or werebeast limits.

So it's more or less a losing argument from the start.

[Newprimus]

The only in-universe explanation that works is that blood destruction, as described in the novels, allows warbeasts to manipulate to a degree the spirit particles within their bodies that exist in all life on Disboard. Therefore this allows them perform some feats that are possible only through magic.

[Gan_HOPE326]

Originally Posted by kukuru

If one thinks about it, double jumping is also impossible no matter how much you break the human or werebeast limits.

So it's more or less a losing argument from the start.

I think there was a mistranslation there. They said Blood Destruction allowed her to break her "physical limits". But then proceeded to say that it meant that physics didn't apply to her any more. So maybe the actual meaning is that Blood Destruction literally allowed her to break the laws of physics - i.e., to perform magical feats.

[Solace]

I think it's more like the principle of inner energy, given the eastern influence and all that. It's not actually magic, you're just manipulating the energy that already exists. I mean, no one is calling Goku a wizard when he's melting faces with Kamehameha attacks and teleporting anywhere he wants instantly.

[GreyZone]

If you watch One Piece, you can compare Blood Destruction to Luffy's Gear 2nd. I think that is one of the closest examples one could provide.

[quigonkenny]

Yeah, ki sounds like a reasonable analogue to what we're seeing here. The inner energy (ki) versus outer energy (mana) dichotomy is a pretty common one.

Originally Posted by Iron Maw

Was this the explanation in the novel? If so I wish had made into the anime at in some way. While it's not impossible to infer, with the way Steph's usually shackled with the "dunce cap" it felt like the siblings just doubting her abilities as normal. It makes me feel better about her role.

Some (mostly re: the Oaths ensuring the command) was explicitly stated in the novel, some (follow, forget, killing intent) are stated in the anime (and the novel, mostly), and much of the rest is extrapolated from all that.

[kukuru]

Originally Posted by Gan_HOPE326

I think there was a mistranslation there. They said Blood Destruction allowed her to break her "physical limits". But then proceeded to say that it meant that physics didn't apply to her any more. So maybe the actual meaning is that Blood Destruction literally allowed her to break the laws of physics - i.e., to perform magical feats.

In a virtual game?

Both sides are using some immense cheating as it stands so questioning one side, the other side doesn't get a write off.

Though...a bit of it is spoilerish for later revelations.

Wearbeast Blood destruction is explained right after the anime ends...but it doesn't boil down to Ki...if anyone wants to know.

[Zer01]

Judging from the popularity from this anime, it's safe to say that there will be a season 2.

[ReinZwei]

Originally Posted by Zer01

Judging from the popularity from this anime, it's safe to say that there will be a season 2.

Nope, there are lots of popular anime in the past that aint got a second season, so not expecting too much about it...

[Klashikari]

Originally Posted by Zer01

Judging from the popularity from this anime, it's safe to say that there will be a season 2.

Popularity doesn't mean jack, even moreso when it comes to LN adaptation.

While we had Infinite Stratos and SAO for proper sequel, we also have Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon which had colossal sales, with absolutely no sequel planned at all.

[shadow1296]

Originally Posted by Klashikari

Popularity doesn't mean jack, even moreso when it comes to LN adaptation.

While we had Infinite Stratos and SAO for proper sequel, we also have Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon which had colossal sales, with absolutely no sequel planned at all.

that may be do to the studio doing horizon and that was sunrise but they do mostly anime original stuff and horizon which is an adaptation from what i know is rare for them(i may be wrong) and from what i know they rarely ever do sequels that aren't planned ahead of time(split cours) and the ones that did, did EXTREMELY well to get them, a better example would have been index which did decent in terms of sales but there has yet to be an announcement on a season 3

[Newprimus]

Originally Posted by Klashikari

Popularity doesn't mean jack, even moreso when it comes to LN adaptation.

While we had Infinite Stratos and SAO for proper sequel, we also have Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon which had colossal sales, with absolutely no sequel planned at all.

Horizon had a second season, didn't it?

[Solace]

Originally Posted by Newprimus

Horizon had a second season, didn't it?

Horizon was known to be two cour when it was initially announced.

The vast majority of anime adaptations are designed to sell their source material, not the other way around. This is why I tried to emphasize to people, when Attack on Titan was about to finish, that they should temper their hopes for more episodes. And we know how popular AoT was. This is why you've been seeing more and more anime adaptation announcements for manga and novels that aren't really that far along: the anime functions as a commercial to drive sales of the source material.

It's a vicious cycle. For overseas fans, this means incomplete anime stories and a reliance on manga and novels that may never be legally translated in their home country, and even fan translations tend to lag behind or get lost due to lack of interest or sourced raws to translate from.

[kukuru]

You have to remember anime is pretty contested industry in japan. There are a lot of factors involved, from political, to artistic, to good old money grabbing.

DxD is probably one of the easiest "sent to die" anime that turned into non stop push push push.

Where something that was "filler season" like Madoka no matter how popular it had, will never ever get a 2nd season, because it was designed with that in mind (and the studio is incredibly highbrow in what they do)

So you just gotta hope the studio and the publishers like what they see.

[Newprimus]

Madoka however ended its story, correct? I might be wrong but it was its own complete story and that was that. Unlike NGNL, which clearly can keep going.

[Craxuan]

The continuation is in the 3rd Movie Rebellion. The main story itself (in the anime) is complete, yeah.

[Marcus H.]

Holy cow, No Game No Life is now #16 in MyAnimeList's overall top anime rankings.
Only Mushishi Zoku Shou was able to approach NGNL's rankings at #18 for this season's anime.

For the TV Anime category, NGNL is already at the bottom end of the Top 10.