[manga] Sasuke stronger than Naruto

[ShadowAssasin]

I hope naruto meets Sasuke soon so he can end up in the hospital again; hopefully this time he'll stay much longer so that we can see Neji or some of the other neglected ninja in action.

[BlackShinobi07]

Originally Posted by ace_TZ

This thread will be pointless for about 15 or more months...

You mean for the rest of the series.

[Adediran242]

Originally Posted by BlackShinobi07

You mean for the rest of the series.

No Kishi is going to spoil the series via Deus ex Machina no jutsu (a word patented from James3wk).

[james0246]

Originally Posted by BlackShinobi07

You mean for the rest of the series.

That is just silly. You know there will be some way, that makes absolutely no sense what so ever (much the same as Sasuke getting an MS by being poked in the head), that allows Naruto to beat Sasuke/Pein/Madara in a fight. Who knows what uber-haxx it will be (and it will have to be massive now since their is no conceivable way that Naruto can make up the difference that Kishimoto keeps creating in such a short amount of time ), but in the end, it will allow Naruto to defeat all the main villians/characters and fullfil his destiny whatever the hell that might be.

Damn, I guess I am still a little upset from the latest chapter .

btw, Adediran242, I doubt I created the phrase "Deus ex Machina no jutsu", I do not think I have read it anywhere before, but I am sure it has been used.

[Last of the Uchihas]

Originally Posted by james3wk

That is just silly. You know there will be some way, that makes absolutely no sense what so ever (much the same as Sasuke getting an MS by being poked in the head), that allows Naruto to beat Sasuke/Pein/Madara in a fight. Who knows what uber-haxx it will be (and it will have to be massive now since their is no conceivable way that Naruto can make up the difference that Kishimoto keeps creating in such a short amount of time ), but in the end, it will allow Naruto to defeat all the main villians/characters and fullfil his destiny whatever the hell that might be.

Damn, I guess I am still a little upset from the latest chapter .

btw, Adediran242, I doubt I created the phrase "Deus ex Machina no jutsu", I do not think I have read it anywhere before, but I am sure it has been used.

there is a comic book.

[BlackShinobi07]

Originally Posted by james3wk

That is just silly. You know there will be some way, that makes absolutely no sense what so ever (much the same as Sasuke getting an MS by being poked in the head), that allows Naruto to beat Sasuke/Pein/Madara in a fight. Who knows what uber-haxx it will be (and it will have to be massive now since their is no conceivable way that Naruto can make up the difference that Kishimoto keeps creating in such a short amount of time ), but in the end, it will allow Naruto to defeat all the main villians/characters and fullfil his destiny whatever the hell that might be.

Damn, I guess I am still a little upset from the latest chapter .

btw, Adediran242, I doubt I created the phrase "Deus ex Machina no jutsu", I do not think I have read it anywhere before, but I am sure it has been used.

Yea I geuss your..........ri.......I just can't say it. I just can't say your right no matter how much I agree with your post. Yes, in series like these the main character usually triumphs over all in one way or another but that obviously isn't the case in this series as weve seen countless times even when we think its finally the moment weve been hoping for(like his fight with Kakuzu). It would be really bad writting if Kishi actually did what you suggested just because this is a shonen manga. I really have a feeling he's trying to tell a deeper and more insperational story.

[james0246]

Originally Posted by BlackShinobi07

Yea I geuss your..........ri.......I just can't say it. I just can't say your right no matter how much I agree with your post. Yes, in series like these the main character usually triumphs over all in one way or another but that obviously isn't the case in this series as weve seen countless times even when we think its finally the moment weve been hoping for(like his fight with Kakuzu). It would be really bad writting if Kishi actually did what you suggested just because this is a shonen manga. I really have a feeling he's trying to tell a deeper and more inpserational story.

Oh I agree that it would be bad writing, but I disagree with the inbold text. Kishimoto gave up on that the second he allowed his editors to dictate how the story should be told (whether it be adding a rival for Naruto (thus creating all the current problems with the Uchiha clan), creating stupid female characters (his original female characters were similiar to his brothers), or just bowing down in general to the wishes of his editors in regards to many many instances). Once upon a time, Naruto could have been a major groundbreaking Shounen series that would revitalize Shounen Jump and much much more. Now...well it is still entertaining I guess, but honestly these discussing online are more entertaining than anything in the actual series.

[BlackShinobi07]

Originally Posted by james3wk

Oh I agree that it would be bad writing, but I disagree with the inbold text. Kishimoto gave up on that the second he allowed his editors to dictate how the story should be told (whether it be adding a rival for Naruto (thus creating all the current problems with the Uchiha clan), creating stupid female characters (his original female characters were similiar to his brothers), or just bowing down in general to the wishes of his editors in regards to many many instances). Once upon a time, Naruto could have been a major groundbreaking Shounen series that would revitalize Shounen Jump and much much more. Now...well it is still entertaining I guess, but honestly these discussing online are more entertaining than anything in the actual series.

How do you know so much about the development process of the manga?

[iBeast]

Originally Posted by james3wk

Oh I agree that it would be bad writing, but I disagree with the inbold text. Kishimoto gave up on that the second he allowed his editors to dictate how the story should be told (whether it be adding a rival for Naruto (thus creating all the current problems with the Uchiha clan), creating stupid female characters (his original female characters were similiar to his brothers), or just bowing down in general to the wishes of his editors in regards to many many instances). Once upon a time, Naruto could have been a major groundbreaking Shounen series that would revitalize Shounen Jump and much much more. Now...well it is still entertaining I guess, but honestly these discussing online are more entertaining than anything in the actual series.

Nope. And there won't be any discussion if there wasn't the series. You've been posting a lot and criticizing the Naruto manga and Kishimoto...

[james0246]

Originally Posted by BlackShinobi07

How do you know so much about the development process of the manga?

Well, I am obviouslt not an expert, or I would at least have my own online comic that I make sure everyone knows about . But, I have read a great deal of various interviews of not only Kishimoto but other manga-ka, as well as various reviews etc. in various Japanese anime related encyclopedia etc.. Through this, just as anyone else that reads enough, I have gained some insight into the process of creating, packaging, editing, and ultimately shipping/selling the various manga.

Added to that I have published a few essays, short stories and articles (in magazine and journals only, I am not good enough yet for a Mass publishing such as a book), and I imagine that Kishimoto has to go through even more editing and publishing red-tape than I ever have (considering the fact that he must work week to week on his chapters).

Originally Posted by Uchiha_hai

Nope. And there won't be any discussion if there wasn't the series. You've been posting a lot and criticizing the Naruto manga and Kishimoto...

I am not sure what this message is supposed to mean. Are we all not providing criticism of the work in question. Kishimoto is the man with his name on the package so when I talk about the creator I am of course going to address Kishimoto specifically (just as I mention Oda in the One Piece forum, or Kubo in the Bleach forum). So, I am unsure what you are talking about in your above statement.

[Adediran242]

Originally Posted by Uchiha_hai

Nope. And there won't be any discussion if there wasn't the series. You've been posting a lot and criticizing the Naruto manga and Kishimoto...

Can you blame him?!?!?! Kishi's writing of late has been very poor. Luckily, his artwork is redeeming.

[Ryuujin]

Originally Posted by ShadowAssasin

I hope naruto meets Sasuke soon so he can end up in the hospital again; hopefully this time he'll stay much longer so that we can see Neji or some of the other neglected ninja in action.

Good luck seeing anyone else being worthwhile as long as Sasuke's still around. Especially someone with the Byakugan, that red-haired stepchild of magic eye powers...

[NaOH]

a little off topic here:

so in the end (after the sasuke vs itachi fight)... kakashi was a much better or useful teacher than orochimaru

i mean sasuke used chidori for just about everything
and if i remember correctly kakashi said he show sasuke the whole elemental shape-majig

while oro taught sasuke??? CS was given to him, then he got his ass absorbed by sasuke, other than that i felt sasuke didn't really learn cool jutsues from oro (all those snake jutsus came after he absorb oro)

the sword might be from oro, but other than that... i don't see why sasuke couldn't train to be what he is if he stayed at konoha

[ForgedGlory]

It just came to me.. as a Final Fantasy reference, Naruto does Ultima as his highest level skill, and Sasuke does Thundaga. lol.

[james0246]

Originally Posted by ForgedGlory

It just came to me.. as a Final Fantasy reference, Naruto does Ultima as his highest level skill, and Sasuke does Thundaga. lol.

LOL, you didn't even go for Aeroga, you went right to Ultima . It is nice to know there are still Naruto fans in this dark age.

[reloaded]

Originally Posted by NaOH

the sword might be from oro, but other than that... i don't see why sasuke couldn't train to be what he is if he stayed at konoha

Forbidden jutsu and CS...he wouldnt have aquired those if he had stayed in Konoha, dont forget about the alleged drugs aswell.

Originally Posted by james3wk

It is nice to know there are still Naruto fans in this dark age.

U got that right.

[Adediran242]

Originally Posted by james3wk

LOL, you didn't even go for Aeroga, you went right to Ultima . It is nice to know there are still Naruto fans in this dark age.

HAIL NARUTO! *is killed gestapo style by Uchiha lovers and Naru haterz alike*

[NaOH]

Originally Posted by reloaded

Forbidden jutsu and CS...he wouldnt have aquired those if he had stayed in Konoha, dont forget about the alleged drugs aswell.



U got that right.

techniqually his forbidden jutsu is that ligntn rikirn thing... (likely inspired by kakashi's whole shape crap)

sasuke's chidori blade was something he developped himself, even oro was surprised when sasuke stabbed him with it (if i remember correctly)

the drug theory is still just a guess from sakura and tsnuade... (i have a feeling kisi is going to forget that he ever mentioned about drug on sasuke)

cs 2 was given to sasuke while he was leaving konoha... had naruto won that battle i am sure sasuke would still have it. (but might supress it or something)

[HiroInazuma]

Originally Posted by james3wk

LOL, you didn't even go for Aeroga, you went right to Ultima . It is nice to know there are still Naruto fans in this dark age.

We all know Naruto is too stupid to use ultima anyway if Naruto uses Ultima Kishi will make Sasuke use ULTIMAMETEORTHUNDAGAFIRAGA to wipe all shinobi that do not have the sharingan off the face of the planet also: Firaga = Amaterasu, Itachi = Illusionist, Naruto = Berseker, Sasuke = Fighter, Kakashi = Blue mage, Madara = If anyone played Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced then Madara is Mewt's mother and evil Mewt, Sakura = White mage, Pein = Level 90 Blue Mage, FRS = Aeroga, EMS = Totema and Sharingan = Greatest armour and weapon in the Final Fantasy series.

[james0246]

LOL, Pein is a blue mage.