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Old 2007-12-01, 00:29   Link #781
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One thing that has been arousing my curiousity as of late....I've noticed that Hagino/Ekaril does not share most of the racial characteristics of the Arume other than their ability to "fly" and their eerie blue eyes. She's dark haired and far more human looking than I would expect. Could it be that she is possibly one of the first human/Arume hybrids?
Nope. Mariel and Misato (from the Bokura and the original manga respectively) are also black haired, and both are totally Arume. Also, taking in account her clone and her daughter, the original Rumi (who only appears in the radio drama) most likely has black hair too. And IMO Hagino is not more human looking than any other black haired Arume. In fact I find Hagino to be quite similar to Misato.
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Old 2007-12-01, 05:05   Link #782
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Nope. Mariel and Misato (from the Bokura and the original manga respectively) are also black haired, and both are totally Arume. Also, taking in account her clone and her daughter, the original Rumi (who only appears in the radio drama) most likely has black hair too. And IMO Hagino is not more human looking than any other black haired Arume. In fact I find Hagino to be quite similar to Misato.
Since the anime is really NOT supposed to follow the manga quite so closely and is supposed to separate from it, technically, my theory is possible.
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Old 2007-12-01, 06:58   Link #783
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Since the anime is really NOT supposed to follow the manga quite so closely and is supposed to separate from it, technically, my theory is possible.
It's not separate from it, it's covering a different time period in the same universe. Read or Die has a similar thing going on.
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Old 2007-12-01, 10:08   Link #784
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It's not separate from it, it's covering a different time period in the same universe. Read or Die has a similar thing going on.
Perhaps I should clarify. When I mean separate, I mean that, if we are assuming that things are going on within a different time frame, naturally events, technologies, etc will differ (especially within the time frame we are speaking of), even differ dramatically. Yui and Magino weren't even born yet in this particular time frame and it's quite possible that, due to changes in their Arume evolution over that long time period (a bit more than 300 years if memory serves) as a result of anything from genetic manipulation to accidental introduction of human traits into their species the Arume could have changed. Since the anime really doesn't follow the current manga (other than a timeline introduced on the website and the introduction of Emul Force), we can't really count either of the manga for information other than to speculate on possible outcomes in this particular story.

Read or Die is a different animal (I've read the manga series and watched the anime, including the Read or Die: Paper Sisters where the ROD characters are reintroduced) and I don't find that a very good example of what I am talking about here.

I mean, humans of today looked quite different from humans of 300 to 1000 yrs ago and we share DNA and characteristics of a few different species. Why couldn't the same thing happen with the Arume? When you look at all of the other characters IN THE ANIME, Hagino is in striking contrast. I am not referring to any events in either manga because, really, they have no bearing on the anime as it stands now. The only thing both media follow, for all intents and purposes, is the timeline thus far.
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Old 2007-12-01, 10:18   Link #785
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Old 2007-12-01, 10:39   Link #786
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Oi oi, I'll have you know those catgirls like being tortured by me

Besides, if anyone has a better theory (or something more fun), I'd love to hear it. Surely we're not all just waiting impatiently (read: insanely) for the next episode to air so that we can watch every kilobyte download in anticipation? Not that I do that or anything.
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Old 2007-12-01, 12:52   Link #787
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Yui and Magino weren't even born yet in this particular time frame and it's quite possible that, due to changes in their Arume evolution over that long time period (a bit more than 300 years if memory serves) as a result of anything from genetic manipulation to accidental introduction of human traits into their species the Arume could have changed. Since the anime really doesn't follow the current manga (other than a timeline introduced on the website and the introduction of Emul Force), we can't really count either of the manga for information other than to speculate on possible outcomes in this particular story.

I mean, humans of today looked quite different from humans of 300 to 1000 yrs ago and we share DNA and characteristics of a few different species. Why couldn't the same thing happen with the Arume? When you look at all of the other characters IN THE ANIME, Hagino is in striking contrast. I am not referring to any events in either manga because, really, they have no bearing on the anime as it stands now. The only thing both media follow, for all intents and purposes, is the timeline thus far.
The black hair may not be as common as those of the white variety, but is not imposible either. And BTW, the Bokura manga takes place only 10 years after the anime series, and Mariel was a commander on the main invasion fleet. And yeah, she has black hair.
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Old 2007-12-01, 13:33   Link #788
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Mariel was a commander on the main invasion fleet.
Ooh, you're right. I wonder if we'll get to see her animated at some point. That'd be a fun little easter egg to stick in the anime.
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Old 2007-12-01, 14:03   Link #789
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Ooh, you're right. I wonder if we'll get to see her animated at some point. That'd be a fun little easter egg to stick in the anime.
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That would be so awesome!! Also...

Spoiler for Ma-chan:


EDIT: watched episode 9 with subs, and damn what a powerful episode (emotionally-wise). I could feel Hagino's pain and sadness during the last scene.

That aside, with Hagino's revelation about the Arume's intentions, the anime finally begins to tie with the bokura manga.

Spoiler for episode 9:

We already knew that, but it's nice to have it mentioned in the anime, as it gives a sense of continuity with the overall storyline.
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Old 2007-12-01, 16:31   Link #790
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I just downloaded the latest Floser sub of ep 9, and on playing it I'm not getting any sound (tried both WMP and MPC). Has anyone else tried to watch this sub yet?
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Old 2007-12-01, 16:41   Link #791
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I just downloaded the latest Floser sub of ep 9, and on playing it I'm not getting any sound (tried both WMP and MPC). Has anyone else tried to watch this sub yet?
I watched it on VLC player, nothing wrong with it
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Old 2007-12-01, 17:10   Link #792
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I tried watching it with Zoomplayer and MPC and I can't get any sound. I didn't have any problems with the other subs by Floser.
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Old 2007-12-01, 17:49   Link #793
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To those who have problems with AUDIO:
Haali media splitter dosn't split this mp4 container version correctly so you will get only video.
So in mplayer classic press O (options) -> internal filters -> source filters ( tick mp4 ) -> ok
and it plays it back perfectly, OR use VLCplayer.
worked for me with mpc.
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Old 2007-12-01, 17:50   Link #794
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To those who have problems with AUDIO:
Haali media splitter dosn't split this mp4 container version correctly so you will get only video.
So in mplayer classic press O (options) -> internal filters -> source filters ( tick mp4 ) -> ok
and it plays it back perfectly, OR use VLCplayer.
unfortunatly it doesnt work for me using mplayer so i had to get VLC - which works fine

edit: lol haxx speed ^^
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Old 2007-12-01, 18:49   Link #795
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worked for me with mpc.
Doesn't work for me. I followed the instructions and still no sound. I tired VLC player, too, and it just crashes when I try to open ep 9 (which is nothing unusual for that POS program).

None of the other Floser subs I watched had this problem, so I suppose I will just have to wait for them to hopefully fix this release.
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Old 2007-12-01, 19:08   Link #796
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Doesn't work for me. I followed the instructions and still no sound. I tired VLC player, too, and it just crashes when I try to open ep 9 (which is nothing unusual for that POS program).

None of the other Floser subs I watched had this problem, so I suppose I will just have to wait for them to hopefully fix this release.
Or you could just download the tcpmp player, which doesn't even requiere installation, and watch the episode right away. Like VLCplayer, tcpmp doesn't need external splitters and codecs, and episode 9 works just fine on it.
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Old 2007-12-01, 19:14   Link #797
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worked for me with mpc.
Doesn't work for me, either, but well, VLC it is. Maybe there is a problem with their encoding?
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Old 2007-12-01, 19:16   Link #798
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Or you could just download the tcpmp player, which doesn't even requiere installation, and watch the episode right away.
Could try installing ffdshow as well, heard thats good.

Seeing it subbed makes me want to see ep 10 even more now. It's not often that an anime can really get me thinking about the story in detail like this, although I'm often wrong with my ideas
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Old 2007-12-01, 20:24   Link #799
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I had trouble playing floser Blue Drop 08 and 09 with mplayer on Linux and MacOS X. It seems that the audio is stored strangely in the mp4 container, in a way mplayer doesn't like. I used MP4Box to extract the mp3 audio (mplayer -dumpaudio yielded a corrupt stream), then remuxed into an mkv container. It played correctly after this.
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Old 2007-12-01, 21:12   Link #800
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I had trouble playing floser Blue Drop 08 and 09 with mplayer on Linux and MacOS X. It seems that the audio is stored strangely in the mp4 container, in a way mplayer doesn't like. I used MP4Box to extract the mp3 audio (mplayer -dumpaudio yielded a corrupt stream), then remuxed into an mkv container. It played correctly after this.
Thanks for sharing but I don't like to remux it to mkv. Last time I tried that, it really messed up my codecs. But I had so many codecs back then that it was a big mess anyway.
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