2012-10-05, 20:43 | Link #1601 |
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It's a bit sad that such a usefull term have been devauled into having no meaning. There are quite a few actuall Mary Sue or Gary Stu characters around that could be usefull to have that term for.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MarySue Even there so are the term not quite definined as it's been missued so much. But for me so is it pretty to define the criteria. The character needs to break the suspension of disbelief due to being too good at too many things. The only issue I can see with Kirito shows up in GGO, but as far as the anime goes, so no. Kirito being good at SAO is no problem as someone has to be the best at it and the story just happens to follow that person. If anything so would I consider those characters who starts out like Evermen and then develop into being super cool due to some wierd event far more of a problem then Kirito, that just happens to be the guy with the most talent and interest in SAO to reach the top. Someone is always at the top after all, so it's hardly unrealistic for a story to be about one. |
2012-10-05, 20:54 | Link #1602 |
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I wouldn't have much problems with Kirito if being a competent gamer was his sole skill. But he also has detective-tier deductive skills, and is also a highly skilled programmer (or so it seems). There's also the fact that every girl he meets wants into his pants.
All in all, it's a bit too much. He doesn't need to be an everyman, but he doesn't need to be like this either. A middle ground would work best imo. EDIT: I forgot, he also has the perfect mindset to live in that world, and that goes beyond being a skilled gamer.
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2012-10-05, 21:01 | Link #1603 | |
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As for the criticisms themselves, he's not too strong, or too intelligent, and he has flaws, just not the sort of ridiculously exaggerated ones that anime viewers have come to expect. |
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2012-10-05, 21:09 | Link #1604 | |
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Anyway, I'm not going to repeat myself. You can read my post above if you're interested in what I see problematic with Kirito's character.
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2012-10-05, 21:10 | Link #1605 | |
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2012-10-05, 22:03 | Link #1606 | |
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2012-10-06, 01:19 | Link #1607 |
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it is interesting to know where will they end ep.14
If it ends at Kirito wakes up in hospital, people will rage like.. "WTF, so the whole [you die in the game = you die in real life] is alll bullshit. This show has lost all of it tension. Dropped."
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2012-10-06, 01:56 | Link #1609 | |
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Spoiler for LB!Refrain ending...:
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2012-10-06, 03:40 | Link #1610 |
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And then they all come running back to troll when GGO comes out. I'll laugh.
Still can't wait for later, sadly I can't be on to see the train wreck as I have an event to go to in the morning. Heh
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2012-10-06, 03:58 | Link #1612 | |
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Btw for being a Gary Stu in a computer game, you need nothing more than much freetime, a good knowledge about skills and builds and obviously the will to play your whole freetime ^^. Packed with the correct mindset you'll have your Gary Stu for sure. |
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2012-10-06, 04:34 | Link #1613 |
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Before Kirito wakes up, there's a scene where Kayaba and Kirito having a talk in the fight afterwards. Kayaba explained clearly that the people who were dead were really killed by the microwave shock but he made an exception for Kirito and Asuna. So I think if the anime doesn't omit that part, the anime-only viewers should know that Kirito and Asuna were the only exception to survive after ingame death.
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2012-10-06, 05:39 | Link #1615 | |
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