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- Ver. Ka has the orange color scheme, while the Custom has a blue color scheme. - Ver. Ka uses a gatling gun with ammo belt connected to its backpack, while the Custom uses the Serpent's dual gatling guns. - Ver. Ka had 2 chest Gatling guns, while the Custom has 4. (Although for some reason this number fluctuates in different art, with some portraying the Ver. Ka as having 4 chest gatlings). The Heavyarms Ver. Ka in the GoTL manga uses add-on parts for its knife, extra missile launchers and tank treads, and the latter two are shown to be ejectable in the field. The upgrades on the Heavyarms Custom compared to the Ver. Ka are still comparatively minor compared to the difference between the Deathscythe/Deathscythe Hell or Shenlong/Altron.
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2011-04-10, 12:16 | Link #2862 | |
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2011-04-10, 12:49 | Link #2863 | |
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Thanks so muc to Kitsoru for the pics! I can't wait for the next installments. |
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2011-04-10, 14:42 | Link #2864 | |
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In the first place, the Deathscythe Hell and the Altron are simply upgrades of the Deathscythe and the Shenlong. Remember that in the TV series, the Deathscythe Hell and the Altron were created by the five scientists repairing the damaged Deathscythe and Shenlong, and then upgunning them - they did not create two totally different suits and give them to Duo and Wufei when they escaped. IRL however, Okawara made it so that the visual appearance of the Deathscythe Hell and Altron were much more drastic from their predecessors, compared to say the Sandrock Kai (which simply got an SMG) or the Heavyarms Kai (which only got a second gatling gun on its shield). This is unlike the Katoki versions, where the base design of the Gundams are kept similar, but with additional parts to better reinforce link between generations as upgrades, and to ensure that all 5 Gundams look upgraded, as opposed to just the D-Hell and Altron getting all the design flair. Even then though, the Heavyarms Custom and Sandrock Custom still highly resemble their Heavyarms Ver. Ka and Sandrock Ver. Ka predecessors, so in a way there really hasn't been that much of a change between the Okawara versions and the Katoki versions. The only Gundam in Wing where the upgrade actually is a completely different unit in itself is the Wing Zero.
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2011-04-10, 18:45 | Link #2865 |
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I know I'm a bit late to the party, but just my two cents about some factual stuff from a few pages back, if anyone still cared
mostly @Deacon Blues I guess (and the others who spoke about it of course): - Noin/ Neuenheim: It doesn't literally mean "new homes" (then it would be Neuheim or Neuesheim, the latter being grammatically sound, the former correct in the way you would name a town for example). So like Noin (Neun), it's not correct language, but could be used as a name, reminding you of a certain meaning... if that makes sense - Milliard/o - is correct if read in Italian instead of French. But I thought that was common knowledge already @.@ - Noin's family- I think it was official that she's ethnic mediterranean at least. as mentioned Trentino Alto Adige (Südtirol, in German) in Northern Italy is full of German speakers, who, actually would prefer to be Austrians :s Friuli Giulia Venezia has at least a minority too iirc. Which doesn't mean that's where she's from- she can still be from anywhere in Italy, since there's German last names associated with Italian families all over the country. Plus, she looks more mediterranean, suggesting central or south... as a lot of those proper northerners look more german and are fairer. (on the other hand, the Italian ethnic minority in Germany is another story, haha. It just doesn't seem too likely) /End of too long cultural background information. Sorry |
2011-04-10, 19:06 | Link #2866 |
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Er. Yes, and that's basically everything what makes a unit itself vs others, cosmetically, isn't it? I'll check again but I was fairly certain there were a few other cosmetic details changed, such as the basic 'shape' going from more rounded to angular even between the Katoki versions.
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2011-04-10, 19:17 | Link #2867 | |
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You can compare the differences (or relative lack thereof) in this image (used the recent Gundam Ace scans to be on the safe side).
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2011-04-10, 20:10 | Link #2869 |
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Hmm, I was using the art from which the Heavyarms Kai Custom you posted was from, and there it looked a lot more different to me:
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__...rms_Custom.jpg @Shine Yes, and we're still waiting. Bug Deacon about it if you're in such a hurry for them. |
2011-04-10, 20:18 | Link #2870 |
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Even if you use the action image though, the Heavyarms Ver. Ka doesn't look "more angular" to me. The action shot does give the Ver. Ka some forearm sleeves, but then said sleeves don't exist in the lineart, nor do they appear in Glory of the Losers. As you can see though, based on just their lineart the only difference between the Ver. Ka and the Custom are their color schemes.
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2011-04-10, 21:14 | Link #2871 |
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Yeah. I think it was the way it was posed in the art where it's crouched that made it look like it still had more of the Okawara-style roundness to it (that's something I've always sort of attributed to Heavyarms anyway; it always had a 'rounded' design than the other Gundams, especially the head, which reminded me of Maxter's football helmet head LOL) but in the frontal-view it's not there at all...
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2011-04-10, 21:29 | Link #2872 |
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@Shine Yes, and we're still waiting. Bug Deacon about it if you're in such a hurry for them.[/QUOTE]
Oh man! Still no one have translated it yet?! yeah it was him as I remember. Well, I'm sue he has his excuse. But still it's a shame no one has done it yet. I still have not read anything about Teardrop (except for few things in it's Wikia page) |
2011-04-11, 00:02 | Link #2875 |
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Unfortunately, due to the plot constantly hopping around timelines, I really can't write a clear, sensible synopsis of the plot for the wiki until we actually know everything that's happened in one linear timeline. I guess I could try to parse out the early AC stuff, but ugh, it's so military heavy I've been putting it off forever while I try to make full sense of it myself..
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2011-04-11, 08:35 | Link #2876 | |
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2011-04-11, 11:31 | Link #2877 | |
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2011-04-11, 16:06 | Link #2879 | |
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And yes, I was just going to say it is the kind of name you would give to a town, hehe. That's why the first association is more like "New Town/ home in the sense of place/village rather than actually home/house". edit: they just used German in a way they use english, sort of. Not that Wing was always totally correct with its use of foreign names, but they generally did better than this one, which is a bit weird- not near as bad as the Hilde Schbeiker, which is just a complete c*ck up Poor Hilde, we always felt sorry for her for that one Didn't mean to be nitpicking either, just thought if its German/Italian/French/ the works bothering you, I can help/ clarify easily |
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2011-04-11, 16:23 | Link #2880 | |
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