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2012-09-26, 16:11 | Link #42 | |
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2012-09-26, 16:18 | Link #43 |
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So many things had to turn out in such weird and random ways for the TObito theory to be correct and this is exactly what Kishi is doing. He was rescued by the Zetsu, taken to a secret hide out, trained, became evil. I would wonder why Team Minato or any leaf ninja ever searched for Obito's body but now i guess Zetsu replaced it with a clone or something. Next chapter should be interesting to see how Kakashi is "to be blamed" for Rin's death, since this is probably the event Obito was talking about earlier. And still, Obito dedicated his entire life to this plan over a crush he had when he was 12 years old? What? |
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2012-09-26, 16:52 | Link #46 | |
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2012-09-26, 17:01 | Link #47 | |
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Clearly people mistakenly made a big deal out of the hair thing, when it really wasn't important. Hair grows. Hair can be cut. This doesn't even qualify for 'suspension of disbelief'. I don't see a problem.
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2012-09-26, 18:27 | Link #48 | |
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But the whole plan of obtaining the 1st hokage's cells/DNA happened decades before Orochimaru existed. Well, at least it seems that Madara's knowledge of how to properly combine the cells with his own body isn't on Orochimaru's level. Maybe he obtained the rinnegan eye being attached to some kind of 1st hokage DNA machine instead of upgrading his body as Kabuto did when he summoned Madara. So it was not only life support but also a machine that injects the DNA needed for the rinnegan transformation. Last edited by Ero-Senn1n; 2012-09-26 at 18:38. |
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I wonder what the connection to the ninjas being from the hidden mist is. Is it madara (maybe using a zetsu as a remote controlled body) controlling yagura and telling the hidden mist to target bakakashi and rin?
Or is it that after obito fails to save rin from the mist, he decides to take over the hidden mist and create the bloody mist tradition out of spite? Although considering that kid zabuza (approximately the same age as kakashi and obito) was the one who ended the tradition, wouldn't that imply that madara or 'tobi' was possessing the mizukage before obito was captured by madara? Also if this is the origin of tobito's mask, then the tobi with the flame looking mask might be a different person, ie madara I'm going with the remote controlled zetsu with a sharingan theory
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Tobi changed his hairstyle. But should we ignore the fact that he also changed his clothes and mask? When Tobi switched from the Spiral mask to the Sharinnegan mask, was it logical to conclude that there was a different person behind each of those masks? If it's one person per hairstyle, doesn't it follow that it's one person per mask as well? Sorry. I do not understand this fixation with Tobi's hair. Quote:
In the translation I read, it seems that there is a third Zetsu that located Rin and Kakashi. Could they be talking about Black Zetsu?
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But the huge personality change in only a few years cannot be explained by that, so it had to be his fusion with a Madara-controlled Zetsu clone. That would also explain the vast knowledge about the ninja world, the ability to manipulate the kyuubi, and that the kyuubi and others thought it was the real Madara (Zetsu can become someone else so that nobody can sense any difference). The Zetsu cloak that also has either mind control or can take over the body is pretty good idea from Kishimoto because it would remove all the largest plot holes. And then only minor plot holes remain, that are also present from the beginning of the manga, so we wouldn't have too much to complain about. BTW Itachi meeting the long haired Tobito might explain how the "bloody mist" story ended. One thing that should be explain but might remain a plot hole is: where are Obito's parents and how come Obito only mentions Rin and Kakashi but not his parents. And of course why does he accept Itachi's offer to wipe out his own clan and with that his parents. |
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