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Old 2007-11-23, 04:38   Link #16601
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Something along the line of Hayate being surrounded by Scions and Heralds, and they send her some nice pretty beams for present ... with Sharazad launching an elemental nuke from afar ...
Physically wicked.

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Uh, this time, she did not really get hurt, more of like a bleeding heart. And I don't mean being sympathetic of the enemy's cause.
Hayate is like the only one who isn't shown getting injured so far. And by bleeding heart, she got her heart torn out when she believed the Wolkies to be gone and the subsequent berserk. Similar events?

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I'm having a particular urge to make all the battles redirect into wastelands or deserts ...
Sounds like a ingredient for all-out battle.

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The dual-, tri-, and quad-elemental attacks are most likely chained together by the single elemental attack. For example, if Sharazad redirects a rapid stream with her spell, it's going to spill over and uproot trees and bring together some other big debris like boulders and stuff. Those "extras" make up the secondary elements (sort of) within the water attack. In any case, yeah, the landscape would most likely change ... a lot.
The change of location fits with the attack described here.

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The Templars will most likely be given a secondary source of Elements, something similar to cartridges, except that these crystals (Astral Quartz) store huge quantities of solar power, thermal heat, and some other volatile Elements. Energy can be accessed directly by drawing Elements from these crystals instead of draining it from the environment.
Cartridges for Templars. And just curious, any drawbacks though?

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We still have a widely exposed area, which happens to be the face. Mana disruption there and something's bound to go ... pop.

[Tormenk]Hand of Fate.[/Tormenk].
From the idea I get of the Templars ability, the vital elements would be drawn out instead of mana correct? And yes the head is a sensitive area to target.
And that attack was pulled off by Fate on Jail to similar effect.

And something to add to Katrina's arsenal..

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Sharazad lures her to a hive of Scions and Heralds, who attack her with all their might. Then, Hayate goes ballistic, and makes use of her fullest power.
Icoming SS power bombardment. Time to give Hayate a piece of the badass.

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The said thing above, plus some bleeding heart plot, and someone got injured, and then ... the scenario goes as planned.
Fits nicely. And though any 6 of them will do, I'm thinking it's Rein or Tesla, since Vita's away for now.

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Oi, what is this dual-answer?!

Still, not like it's not usable.
Duality FTW.


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Must... Kill... USB...

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No, wait... What was I thinking...


MUST... KILL... HIKKI...!!!
Jeno gets all the great girls in the end.

KILL JENO!


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IIRC Odex sells to Mediacorp. Cowboy Bebop is under their name. It was airing last night. Faye and Singapore were being shown in that episode. Connect the dots...
That's a lot of dots but I get the idea. You get Central or are you local though?


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Damn, this thread is dying. This isn't a good week for everyone.
Inevitable periods of slowness are to be expected though this slow on weekdays are kinda worrying.

And if I dare say it..

The end was already decided when the start began.

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Oh, an 3vil teaser is fine, too.
Spoiler:


Spoiler for reposting image:


BTW, I won't be around this weekend. Need to get a good rest after this stressful week. . I see if I can come up with new stuffs next week. D:
Evil.

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Actually, following the flow of the battle without thinking and only reacting means your're fighting with your instincts, and since instincts rely on your emotions...

Sorry, its just that the descritption you just gave is pretty much the same as Keroko's fighting style, and Keroko fights with her emotions on a constant basis. Hell, its pretty much the source of her strength.
Emotions are particularly fine double-edged swords.
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Old 2007-11-23, 04:41   Link #16602
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Ahh, you're thinking counter-terrorist Enforcers hunting down guys still using conventional weapons, eh? They'd see quite a bit of action on the planets Erusia and Sotoa then, what with the resistance movements against the TSAB on both planets...
Something like that yes.

Except the scenario I'm setting is when TSAB were still fighting to mantain order, and Mid-Childan was still very vulnerable.

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Guess your concept is closer to SWAT, while the OFM is a mix of Gar, hot blood, Johnson, tunderekko, black ops, Section Nine, and ODST. <.<
You can put it that way I guess a TAC team.

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Jeno gets all the great girls in the end.

KILL JENO!

It's only expected....
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Old 2007-11-23, 04:49   Link #16603
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Jealous Hayate is a tsun-tsun Hayate? <~ (my plans for the arc I'm planning)
Frankly, I don't see Hayate the type going tsun-tsun much. @_@

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What do you have in mind?
Hmm... *Rosen = pending name*

Hayate: It's been a while, how have you been doing?
Rosen: Fine, but my heart was hurt badly a few days ago.
Grandis/Hayate: Eh?
Rosen: I heard that the both of you are going steady now...

*scene in between pending*

Rosen: Fraulien Hayate, I congralutate you today, but please call me right away when you have a fight with Grandis.
Hayate: I'll think about it. *giggles*
Rosen: A present for you. If you present this to any interworld port, they'll give you a ticket to any of the Rosen family villa's which are all over the Management Worlds, and several Non-Management ones as well.... I'll be leaving then.... Oh, I don't mind if you use it for your future honeymoon trip with Grandis.
Grandis: Who in their right mind would go to his villa on their honeymoon trip?


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THANKS!
As expected of Aaron. :3

Don't ask.

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Is this a character from Cyber Formula?


It's one of the few shows I was rewatching recently along with Iryu - TMD. Brings back memories.

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A guy who looks like a racer and is named Schumacher?

Why do i have to think about the world famous german racing driver Michael Schumacher now?


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NRivals trying to outdo eachother in completely opposite ways?
More like coincidence, on how the Wolkies and Zertsros have a kindred perfect harmony overall. Saga and his counterpart be it Ein or Hayate are like kindred souls in a sense, as powerful as they are, there exist a void in them that because they have friends, that's why they can be strong. Signum/Isdera are similar in their convictions, but because of that, they have a sense of disconnection despite being the most similar between the 2, (( other then when they're fighting )), Astra and Shamal are basically 'the bickering party' since even though they're doctors, their principals differ heavily, but understands each other's intentions, reasons and thoughts well when it matters to save life and to help comrades, and Wira is well... 180 of Vita's personality, but in terms of 'non-existence' is exactly the same as Zafira, so both sides balance.

But it makes for gooooo~d coincidence.

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Though yeah, they were holding back according to the manga.
Makes one wonder how much of Belka could be cheapened into the LAWL MAGIC DAMAGE LAWL thing.


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Speaking about that, has it been mentioned anywhere that the TSAB DON'T use cartridges before the time of A's ? Not even a little?
Well, it's probably EXTREMELY RARE. But at the same time, the FACT that Saint Church/Belka Region had already existed by A's and most likely quite long before as well leaves questions wondering...

How much of a minority was Knights back in A's? Was Knights even established back then? When did Neo-Belka started to get widespread usage until it became from Ultimate Rare to Rare?

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Therein lies a big problem with Nanoha as a whole - compared to the other personnel in their universe, the Aces and Knights are damn-nigh gods, and that leaves you with three choices:

1: A really short story.
2: Really hax antagonists.
3: PIS, stupid limiting plot devices, etc.

I suppose you can also make it so that Nanoha and co are not THAT much more powerful than everyone else
Well, for starters, I'd like to see at least SOME of the other 'elites'. Other SS rankers? How powerful (( or weak now )) are the Legendary Admirals (( or at least how they compare to Nanoha.co. in their prime )), elite task force from Air Force and Navy, Church Knights... all that.

As it is, StrikerS hasn't even topped the quota of A's, especially if you consider that even in A's, the concentration of the forces that matter weren't even ALL that strong anyway.

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To be exact, long before your time here, I was planning to tell the tale of the previous generation of mages, Clyde, Lindy, Leti, Graham... The old timers. I was going with the assumption that during their time, the Administration Bureau were still in the process of cleaning the multiverse, so there'll be conflicts left and right.

One of the main concern I figured, was the removal of conventional weapons. Just like how the Riot Forces on are sent to seal Lost Logias, I was imagining a special task force that would be responsible back then to mop up hostile groups who traffic and use these weapons.

I've decided to categorize them under counter-Terrorism.
Actually... ending the chaotic times, conflicts, etc were done 150 years ago. And the 3 Legendary Admirals are probably a heavy post-3 Brains influence in ensuring that magic civilization continues to keep the peace-in-tact. If anything, the conflict would've been quite toned down by Clyde and Lindy's time, and was more an era of stabilization if anything.

Not saying that there'd be no conflicts, but huge-scale multiverse conflicts are probably already rare by then, and are more like conventional terrorist of modern times.

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Something like that yes.

Except the scenario I'm setting is when TSAB were still fighting to mantain order, and Mid-Childan was still very vulnerable.
If it was early 150 years ago, naturally. If it was 75 years ago, still good. But Clyde/Lindy's time? I HIGHLY doubt Mid-childa was still in gung-ho times even after more than a century of 'conflict ended by the 3 Brains.'
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Old 2007-11-23, 04:53   Link #16604
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Actually, following the flow of the battle without thinking and only reacting means your're fighting with your instincts, and since instincts rely on your emotions...

Sorry, its just that the descritption you just gave is pretty much the same as Keroko's fighting style, and Keroko fights with her emotions on a constant basis. Hell, its pretty much the source of her strength.
Well, the instincts part is right.
But one thing is "feeling the battle", the other is having/using emotions while fighting, such as hate, confidence, passion, etc...

Since he was fighting someone who could read his emotions, he could see through his attacks.
And because both have the same skills and ability, they were at a stalemate.

So...if you opponent knows you better than yourself and can read your emotional state as an extra, then you better do something to nullify that advantage

*goes back to work*
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Old 2007-11-23, 05:02   Link #16605
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Actually, that's her giant hat!!! Believe it or not. The colour is a bit misleading though, since its almost the same shade as her hair colour. Its kinda like those olden days court jesters' hat, except a LOT bigger and without the bells.
I had the exact same raection, thinking that the hat was part of her hair the first time I saw a picture of her
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Image time for me:
After some hunting around I found an image that would fit Jean, which would match her description without looking like Saber. So I'll be using this unless someone has already laid claims. Another is Sylvia, which Erio should recognize. Don't recall it being used either, but just in case let me know.

Spoiler for Jean:


Spoiler for Sylvia:


Quite difficult to find images of Velvet from Odin Sphere, the character I'm basing Sylvia on. To describe her skirt is like Nanoha's BJ a mini skirt inside and a front open skirt outside. Kinda looks like a gypsy huh?
NICE

Orz... I need to get my act together and go image hunting......... But so much writing to do
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Btw the thread seems to have slowed down a bit nowadays. Nice change of pace.
All it means is that people are off writing stuff Expect a surge in the number of posts fairly soon, where there's a few cheesed posts on every page
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I don't know, but I stumbled across this interesting picture while browsing through Sister Iichan's site.
Spoiler for pre-Widuri Halcyon:

However, this template isn't finalized. So how Halcyon would look in her pre-Lyrical of Time incarnation will change if necessary.

though I kind of like this "killer lady version" of Widuri <_<

And I think I'm going to use this as Widuri's "alter ego" persona if the thread agrees. >_>

*runs from Hikki*
Wow, very nice
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Where's everyone?

TEARS OF THE NORTHERN WIND
CHAPTER 5


I get this feeling that some of us want to kill Hikki already after reading this chapter.

*runs*
Before Reading
Didn't we already from his future antics
As well as the fact that he has Mai has a waifu

After reading.
The urge to kill him hasn't risen any
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Yo! Just dropping a message for now. I was busy in the last couple of days studying for an exam. I'm done with that, though.

And I havent forgotten about the few reads I'm owing some of you. I will surely try to take care of them tomorrow.
Hope it went well
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That was why I liked Fate's new jacket better, I like my combat troops to look like well... troops not street walkers.

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I don't get why they imagined stuff so skimpy to begin with... If someone said “you need to think up some armor” my outfit probably ends up looking like this.

Spoiler for Size:

Mjolnir armor = awesome it would instantly spring to mind guaranteed.

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I can only offer this as an explanation on why their BJ are like that.
Spoiler for NSFW:


XD
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APPROVED.

lol
Indeed
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Would depend on the situation but if it’s just going to arrest some guy for weapons violation or a few low level gun runners they’re would be little reason for counter terrorist teams to be involved, if the target is known to be able to use the weapons and keep them near him a SWAT team would likely serve the warrant though. If it was slightly higher level gun runner like a wholesaler it probably crosses state (planet) lines and so federal agents are likely to be involved or lead the operation, again it would be a mostly investigative task though and handled by that department, though again a tactical team (likely an enforcer contingent) is probably used for the actual take down.

Of course it’s also a question of what kind of CT group are you talking about both FBI Special Agents and Delta Force Commandos are counter terrorist specialists, but in totally different ways. Even accountants can be CT operatives so just saying “CT” dosen’t really make it easy to answer the question what kind of CT are you thinking of investigations, counter intelligence, tactical/rescue teams?

Still I'll hazard to guess your thinking classic "Elite black clad stormtroopers that bash in doors and shot people" like the SAS or something in which case you'd need to get into a truly huge criminal empire heavily involved in supporting major terrorist groups to justify using them. Although it has happened Russian uses Special Forces to combat the mafia and Delta force was apparently heavily involved in training and assisting in what amounted to the state sanctioned murder of Pablo Escobar and the destruction of his cartel, although in both cases these are and where criminal's that were bordering on domestic terrorists, though that line can get blurry indeed at times. These kinds of teams are also sometimes used to counter large scale domestic or international terror groups, but in this case they tend to provide muscle while another section will ID targets for them.

Still if it seems like something a SWAT team analog ought to be able to handle then they'd have little reason to get involved. Again this is all highly situation dependent though and it's hard to say exactly what should happen without a bit of detail, and in any event CT operations are in general a multi-disipline and agency affair that would possibly to invole a number of groups depending on the specfics of the case.
Important things for me to keep in mind once I get around to writing Ismau's backstory.
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Oh, an 3vil teaser is fine, too.
Spoiler:


Spoiler for reposting image:


BTW, I won't be around this weekend. Need to get a good rest after this stressful week. . I see if I can come up with new stuffs next week. D:
Damm, it's the return of his evil teasers
*shakes fist*


Have a good weekend!

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...I really wanted to put John-117 in, but then again, giving him magic would make him too h4x. I mean, he's pretty haxxed in the books, IMO. (Though not so in the games.) On the other hand, Rule of Cool applies.
It would be awesome to see him here, but won't be happeninig unless you tone him down ALOT. Even without magic, he'd probably give nanoha a run for her money...
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I'm having a particular urge to make all the battles redirect into wastelands or deserts ...
At least they won't have to worry too much about the surrounding... Although how they get there is going to be a concern..
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The dual-, tri-, and quad-elemental attacks are most likely chained together by the single elemental attack. For example, if Sharazad redirects a rapid stream with her spell, it's going to spill over and uproot trees and bring together some other big debris like boulders and stuff. Those "extras" make up the secondary elements (sort of) within the water attack. In any case, yeah, the landscape would most likely change ... a lot.
Ahh, so that's what you were talking about. I though you meant something entirely different.
*stamps seal of approval*
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The case with Subaru was actually accidental, with Vestrell going mad on not getting the genuine Topaz Star. Still, I know it's a weak defense, so I'm not going to try to debate on it.
Perhaps... although I'd be more inclined to want to lock her away knowing that she has a short fuse, combined with lethal magic...
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The Templars will most likely be given a secondary source of Elements, something similar to cartridges, except that these crystals (Astral Quartz) store huge quantities of solar power, thermal heat, and some other volatile Elements. Energy can be accessed directly by drawing Elements from these crystals instead of draining it from the environment.
Ahh, well that's fine then, as long as there's a limitation to how many they can carry as other wise it just turns into a battle of attrition that the Templars are likely to win.
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Ah, I see, but if I remember correctly, it's written as EZ, not EP. Maybe I misread it.
Hmm, it should be EP... maybe I missed it somewhere.

EZ would work as well, Extraction Zone[/QUOTE]

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Old 2007-11-23, 05:20   Link #16606
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This is bad... Only 10 minute left on the clock for the day. no internet at home so at a lanshop. How's things going?
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Old 2007-11-23, 05:23   Link #16607
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This is bad... Only 10 minute left on the clock for the day. no internet at home so at a lanshop. How's things going?
Slow.... Too slow...


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Well, it's probably EXTREMELY RARE. But at the same time, the FACT that Saint Church/Belka Region had already existed by A's and most likely quite long before as well leaves questions wondering...

How much of a minority was Knights back in A's? Was Knights even established back then? When did Neo-Belka started to get widespread usage until it became from Ultimate Rare to Rare?
Well I can say that they're definitely not common knowledge...


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Well, for starters, I'd like to see at least SOME of the other 'elites'. Other SS rankers? How powerful (( or weak now )) are the Legendary Admirals (( or at least how they compare to Nanoha.co. in their prime )), elite task force from Air Force and Navy, Church Knights... all that.

As it is, StrikerS hasn't even topped the quota of A's, especially if you consider that even in A's, the concentration of the forces that matter weren't even ALL that strong anyway.
As for me, I'm a much simpler man.

I remember back in wiki before StrikerS, it was mentioned that all Armed Bureau members were at least A ranked. Then all of a sudden B rank was some unpassable wall

They downplay the little people too much


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Actually... ending the chaotic times, conflicts, etc were done 150 years ago. And the 3 Legendary Admirals are probably a heavy post-3 Brains influence in ensuring that magic civilization continues to keep the peace-in-tact. If anything, the conflict would've been quite toned down by Clyde and Lindy's time, and was more an era of stabilization if anything.

Not saying that there'd be no conflicts, but huge-scale multiverse conflicts are probably already rare by then, and are more like conventional terrorist of modern times.

If it was early 150 years ago, naturally. If it was 75 years ago, still good. But Clyde/Lindy's time? I HIGHLY doubt Mid-childa was still in gung-ho times even after more than a century of 'conflict ended by the 3 Brains.'
My bad if I over-Exaggerate in my description, but the scenario is just as you've described. There isn't any all-out war, but I do believe the TSAB still have to deal with terrorism, and are task with peace-keeping in several 'yellow zone' worlds.
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Old 2007-11-23, 05:33   Link #16608
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Damn, this thread is dying. This isn't a good week for everyone.
The OC thread, dying? BLASPHEMY!!!

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Anyway, I'll just post the links to Tears of the Northern Wind, in case people missed my OC profile post at the first page.

Chapters 1 & 2
Chapter 3
Chapter 4, reposted
Chapter 5

*goes to continue Tears of the Northern Wind & Super Robot Wars LW*
I'll read later since I'll be busy with our finals week. Is that ok?
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Updates? Not sure, but it will just be another slow chapter(s) before the final action begins.

Oh, an 3vil teaser is fine, too.
Spoiler:


Spoiler for reposting image:


BTW, I won't be around this weekend. Need to get a good rest after this stressful week. . I see if I can come up with new stuffs next week. D:
OMG! @_@
Stark contrast indeed!

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I don't think I'm that good yet
It's alright. Thanks for your efforts!

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Barrier Jackets again? Good thing internet is fixed then.

First of, do Barrier Jackets give protection even to unclothed areas? Yes. Take a look at this manga page:

Spoiler for IS: Silver Retriever:


Barrier Jackets create both a field and a barrier, now why would you limit the area of protection to what is clothed if you can make it cover the entire body? Seems like the most logical choice is to make it cover the entire body. Does this stop people from grabbing you? Of course not. It does, however, protect one from incomming attacks. Not completely (its an automated defence, after all, it not nearly as powerfull as one made with actual effort) but it does suit to soften blows, and logically eliminate the damage of lower-tier attacks.

Why should they need to bounce of eachother? this isn't the SG:A personal shield, you know. If you want support, the cast gets thrown through buildings without suffering as much as a scratch. Even though they're wearing skimpy clothing, they come out of it just fine and carry on as if nothing happened. Why? Because the Barrier Jackets shielded them from the blow.

Then why is it so hard to believe that a society which is farther in us not only in technollogy, but also utilizes magic can make outfits that protect the entire body, rather then only what is clothed.
The Silver Retriever strikes again!

I guess that pretty much supports my view fully.

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Something along the line of Hayate being surrounded by Scions and Heralds, and they send her some nice pretty beams for present ... with Sharazad launching an elemental nuke from afar ...

Uh, this time, she did not really get hurt, more of like a bleeding heart. And I don't mean being sympathetic of the enemy's cause.

Sharazad lures her to a hive of Scions and Heralds, who attack her with all their might. Then, Hayate goes ballistic, and makes use of her fullest power.

The said thing above, plus some bleeding heart plot, and someone got injured, and then ... the scenario goes as planned.
Sounds pretty drastic...

I have some rough ideas/guesses. But I'll reserve those for now.

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The shuddering attack known as Diabolic Emission.


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The dual-, tri-, and quad-elemental attacks are most likely chained together by the single elemental attack. For example, if Sharazad redirects a rapid stream with her spell, it's going to spill over and uproot trees and bring together some other big debris like boulders and stuff. Those "extras" make up the secondary elements (sort of) within the water attack. In any case, yeah, the landscape would most likely change ... a lot.
I see. That's fine with me.

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The Templars will most likely be given a secondary source of Elements, something similar to cartridges, except that these crystals (Astral Quartz) store huge quantities of solar power, thermal heat, and some other volatile Elements. Energy can be accessed directly by drawing Elements from these crystals instead of draining it from the environment.
Approved.

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I've mentioned a little bit of it in a reply to Liingo, and the creatures (Minions, Executioners, Cardinals, Heralds, and Scions) have all been buffed up to some next evolutionary stage. There is still the hidden antagonists to take care of.

Other small upgrades include buffed up protective spells so that they can withstand wide-area attacks to a certain limited extent. Nothing bordering on being safe in the face of a full-powered Diabolic Emission, but the damage is reduced by a significant fraction so that they don't just diffuse out of existence in the black sphere.
So a sustained beating is required? That's fine.

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Vestrell could probably do it, but Grandia and Trystahn are more reserved towards handling a woman's ... legs.
As if you have time to think where your holding your opponent when it's a life or death situation...

But then, that tends to happen lots of times. And they realize it when it's already too late.

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In Nanohaverse, it would be difficult for someone with wide-area attacks like Hayate to use her spells without causing damage to her surroundings. If the Templars indeed choose to hide within the populace, she would do no better unless she uses a bind spell (which I, again, don't remember she having one).
She has a freezing bind, the bind she used on Quattro's wrists in episode 26 (don't ask me how. It shouldn't even work in the first place, but it did), and any bind loli Nanoha/Fate should know.

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We still have a widely exposed area, which happens to be the face. Mana disruption there and something's bound to go ... pop.

[Tormenk]Hand of Fate.[/Tormenk].
Don't you dare.

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Sharazad won't go for the kill, even if she could do so. As I've said, Templars don't do that unless it's necessary.
So it's perfectly fullproof once you're in their grasp (literally)?!

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And another one.
The one I proposed?
If so, please put it near the end for maximum climactic nuke-action!

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Oi, what is this dual-answer?!

Still, not like it's not usable.
Yep.

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It is most certainly undiplomatic to chuck the opinions of others out simply because "they don't contain debatable ideas". Resorting to that either means that you couldn't find a suitable counter, or you just simply refuse to accept. And it's a dirty low-blow, to say the least.

Nice going there, Aaron!
Thanks.
I've been wanting to have a word with Haru for a LONG time.

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Err...even if there's an area that isn't directly protected by the barrier jacket...I still think it's enveloped by the barrier and field.

If not...then they would get targeted with headshots...a lot
That's my idea too.

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How about adding socks to Hayate's barrier jacket?

Great minds think alike?


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Hayate is like the only one who isn't shown getting injured so far. And by bleeding heart, she got her heart torn out when she believed the Wolkies to be gone and the subsequent berserk. Similar events?
Quite likely...

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Sounds like a ingredient for all-out battle.


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Incoming SS power bombardment. Time to give Hayate a piece of the badass.
Damn straight!

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Fits nicely. And though any 6 of them will do, I'm thinking it's Rein or Tesla, since Vita's away for now.
I have another candidate. And he's an OC.

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Frankly, I don't see Hayate the type going tsun-tsun much. @_@
Not outright tsun-tsun! Just the huffy-puffy cute type of mild tsun.

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Hmm... *Rosen = pending name*

Hayate: It's been a while, how have you been doing?
Rosen: Fine, but my heart was hurt badly a few days ago.
Grandis/Hayate: Eh?
Rosen: I heard that the both of you are going steady now...

*scene in between pending*

Rosen: Fraulien Hayate, I congralutate you today, but please call me right away when you have a fight with Grandis.
Hayate: I'll think about it. *giggles*
Rosen: A present for you. If you present this to any interworld port, they'll give you a ticket to any of the Rosen family villa's which are all over the Management Worlds, and several Non-Management ones as well.... I'll be leaving then.... Oh, I don't mind if you use it for your future honeymoon trip with Grandis.
Grandis: Who in their right mind would go to his villa on their honeymoon trip?
I'm liking this already.

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More like coincidence, on how the Wolkies and Zertsros have a kindred perfect harmony overall. Saga and his counterpart be it Ein or Hayate are like kindred souls in a sense, as powerful as they are, there exist a void in them that because they have friends, that's why they can be strong. Signum/Isdera are similar in their convictions, but because of that, they have a sense of disconnection despite being the most similar between the 2, (( other then when they're fighting )), Astra and Shamal are basically 'the bickering party' since even though they're doctors, their principals differ heavily, but understands each other's intentions, reasons and thoughts well when it matters to save life and to help comrades, and Wira is well... 180 of Vita's personality, but in terms of 'non-existence' is exactly the same as Zafira, so both sides balance.

But it makes for gooooo~d coincidence.
Perfect. BTW, I'm thinking of a non-RevivalS setting where Aurion would still get to know Saga and the others without telling Hayate. Any ideas?

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Actually, following the flow of the battle without thinking and only reacting means your're fighting with your instincts, and since instincts rely on your emotions...

Sorry, its just that the descritption you just gave is pretty much the same as Keroko's fighting style, and Keroko fights with her emotions on a constant basis. Hell, its pretty much the source of her strength.
I have a concept for this I'm still planning


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DANCHOU!!!

You were sure gone for quite a while! Things are fine here. I already posted another AurionXHayateAurion & Hayate scenario for GuardianS and also Grandis' profile.

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Rather quiet, actually. Though concidering the state of my internet this week, I can't say I minded.

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Emotions are particularly fine double-edged swords.
Indeed, but fighting without them is impossible.

I never liked the 'kill your emotions' cliche. Its a personal thing, but fighting without emotions is not a fight. You're nothing more then a doll if you fight without them. No purpose, no goal, and of course no tension. Not to mention that I concider it impossible to erase or subdue all emotion.

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More like coincidence, on how the Wolkies and Zertsros have a kindred perfect harmony overall. Saga and his counterpart be it Ein or Hayate are like kindred souls in a sense, as powerful as they are, there exist a void in them that because they have friends, that's why they can be strong. Signum/Isdera are similar in their convictions, but because of that, they have a sense of disconnection despite being the most similar between the 2, (( other then when they're fighting )), Astra and Shamal are basically 'the bickering party' since even though they're doctors, their principals differ heavily, but understands each other's intentions, reasons and thoughts well when it matters to save life and to help comrades, and Wira is well... 180 of Vita's personality, but in terms of 'non-existence' is exactly the same as Zafira, so both sides balance.

But it makes for gooooo~d coincidence.
Yes, gooooo~d coincidence indeed.

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Makes one wonder how much of Belka could be cheapened into the LAWL MAGIC DAMAGE LAWL thing.
Concidering they use hammers made out of solid objects, only their beam attacks, if any.

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Well, it's probably EXTREMELY RARE. But at the same time, the FACT that Saint Church/Belka Region had already existed by A's and most likely quite long before as well leaves questions wondering...

How much of a minority was Knights back in A's? Was Knights even established back then? When did Neo-Belka started to get widespread usage until it became from Ultimate Rare to Rare?
Concidering Belkan mages have joined the TSAB (if Carim and Acous are an indication) then it should have been familiar practice.

My personal theory -and this is virtually unsuported- is as follow:

The TSAB knew of Belkan magic, and had Belkan practicioners in their midst. However, due to the risk of physical harm with using Belkan style, the greater part of the TSAB recruits went for Mid style, causing the Belkan style to fall into decline. The Neo-Belkan style was developped eventually to be a balance, but due to the reputation of the Belkan style, and the mainstay of the Mid style, many still opted for Mid, with only a few practicioners of Neo Belkan. Only when the Aces made a name for themselves and became poster girls, did more people go for Neo Belkan.

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Well, the instincts part is right, one thing is "feeling the battle", the other is having/using emotions while fighting, such as hate, confidence, passion, etc...

Since he was fighting someone who could read his emotions, he could see through his attacks.
And because both have the same skills and ability, they were at a stalemate.

So...if you opponent knows you better than yourself and can read your emotional state as an extra, then you better do something to nullify that advantage

*goes back to work*
Feeling the battle? As in sensing what you oponent will do? Where he will be? Yeah, that's what Keroko does too. It's actually one of the main differences between Tesla and Keroko. Tesla analyses her oponents moves and calculates their next ones, while Keroko instinctively knows where they are going to be. Same result, different ways of getting it.

Of course, instincts can be fooled, as Lotte demonstrated by using a feint and taking advantage of Keroko's reflexive dodge.

But like I said, its a personal thing. I just don't like 'no emotion' states.
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Mind if I ask for links to the latest material? I've only got 1 hr a day to use on a shop to keep up so digging through 30 pages of cheese while doing Skettis Dailies is somewhat impossible. Unlimited Bluecheesium Works takes too much time...

I'll be back someday... in full... Blast. :3
Guess who popped his head around here?

Anyways, thread's not as fast as it used to be, only manage 10 pages a week :P

Waiting to see how your comeback goes

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Feeling the battle? As in sensing what you oponent will do? Where he will be? Yeah, that's what Keroko does too. It's actually one of the main differences between Tesla and Keroko. Tesla analyses her oponents moves and calculates their next ones, while Keroko instinctively knows where they are going to be. Same result, different ways of getting it.

Of course, instincts can be fooled, as Lotte demonstrated by using a feint and taking advantage of Keroko's reflexive dodge.

But like I said, its a personal thing. I just don't like 'no emotion' states.
Well...Koji won't be using it again...even in the last battle, he didn't manage to keep it up for long, letting out a burst of emotions when he unleashed Fuujin Issen, powering up the attack

Besides, it's too tiring

EDIT: Well...how about that...it seems like this last part is going to be really big

In fact, I might as well just make it into a new chapter
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Mind if I ask for links to the latest material? I've only got 1 hr a day to use on a shop to keep up so digging through 30 pages of cheese while doing Skettis Dailies is somewhat impossible. Unlimited Bluecheesium Works takes too much time...

I'll be back someday... in full... Blast. :3
About time you showed your face in here

A Visit to RF6 Part 7 Strikers v Aces

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My personal theory -and this is virtually unsuported- is as follow:

The TSAB knew of Belkan magic, and had Belkan practicioners in their midst. However, due to the risk of physical harm with using Belkan style, the greater part of the TSAB recruits went for Mid style, causing the Belkan style to fall into decline. The Neo-Belkan style was developped eventually to be a balance, but due to the reputation of the Belkan style, and the mainstay of the Mid style, many still opted for Mid, with only a few practicioners of Neo Belkan. Only when the Aces made a name for themselves and became poster girls, did more people go for Neo Belkan.
I quite like this theory. Nice.
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Very, very nice

This was the role that I had originally in mind for my enforcers, but the talks with TK and other's have made me move them more into a SWAT like role (Lowe, you've predicted this from the start ) ALthough chnaces are there still will be instances of my enforcers doing what the OFM just did above, just not as often.

As I said, nice chapter Echo 4-19 was a nice touch Blowing up the builidng at the end was very cool

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Guess who popped his head around here?

Anyways, thread's not as fast as it used to be, only manage 10 pages a week :P

Waiting to see how your comeback goes
Rofl. Still fast by any standards Unlike USB who's thinking that the thread had died down this week... It's only dead when we're filling a page every few weeks... Like that's going to happen

Now, time to get back to playing FS/N
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Ok, here goes

Chapter 21

Spoiler for Chapter 21 - Koji's Knighting - Part 1:


Well, that's it for part 1

Here's a small teaser.
Spoiler for Teaser:

Their personalities are somewhat alike after all

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Ok, here goes

Chapter 21

Spoiler for Chapter 21 - Koji's Knighting - Part 1:


Well, that's it for part 1

Here's a small teaser.
Spoiler for Teaser:

Their personalities are somewhat alike after all

*runs*
I'm liking Altea alot
Does her ability to hear thoughts extend out into the real world as well? As in still working when she isn't in the trial area? If so some amusing/interesting scenarios could happen
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It would be awesome to see him here, but won't be happeninig unless you tone him down ALOT. Even without magic, he'd probably give nanoha a run for her money...
That’s an over simplification if he got her on the ground at close quarters where she somehow couldn't run away then yes he’d probably tear her limb from limb, quite possibly in the literal sense since he can rip metal fittings off battle suits with his bare hands outside armor. Indeed even someone like a Knight would be in serious shit fighting him in CQC in his armor as said armor has shown VASTLY higher resistance to kinetic impact then any barrier jacket in all of Nanoha, he has super strength, and reflexes boosted to at least 10 times human norms.

If he has Cortana I also see TSAB comm-nets being in chaos within about five minutes with no one having a clue WHERE the fuck he is and him knowing their positions down to the meter.

That said he also has his issues:
-Of course he can’t fly and even at a full out sprint he can only move at about 40 MPH so he’d be at a huge mobility disadvantage against air mages.
-His offense is on the weak side his heaviest weapons or covenant ones might be able to do some damage lower to mid tier mages, but they’d probably just bounce off a shield thrown up by someone like Nanoha. He’d need to catch them off guard with a sniper attack or something in a straight up fight he’d have serious issues hurting her by himself. (if he got a team flanking and such become viable and he has more options)
-His defenses aren’t super weak, but they’re geared toward a different threat in many ways and will provide only so-so protection here. Still his sheer speed advantage should allow him to just dodge most of the rather lackadaisical magic attacks thrown at him and the armor will provide allot of protection from blast effect. That said he’s not going to tank SLB or probably even a direct Divine Buster hit. (well not without help) though stuff like Accel shooter is just going to plink off most likely. Now stick an AMF on the armor… ho boy no one that can’t fly is safe.

I’d say that given time and some stuff to work with he could take apart a team like the forwards pretty easily baring some rather bad luck as only Teana has ever really shown the kind of analytical mindset you’d need to try and counter someone like him. Of course he has that mind set too and 30 years of combat and training to draw on to boot and he’s totally willing to use traps, ambushes, etc anything to even the odds. (that said I'm not sure at all he could fight all four at once straight up and win)

Personally I’d class him as somewhere around a B+ to A- ground mage with an unusually weak offense, but an in unusually high speed myself. That admittedly is without him using a shred of magic or magi-tech. Adding either of those could quickly put him into the AAA or S ranks as mentioned an AMF on his armor could easily turn him into an unholy terror to anything on the ground, higher power magi-tech weapons could drive his offense up and make him more a threat at range, and just letting him fly to a decent level could make him a monster. Letting him use full on offensive and defensive magic scarcely bares thinking about with his experience level and other enhancements the only thing that could probably stop him would be a Nanoha or Fate level mage, and now top all this off with a near total indifference to killing his enemies (but not any kind of stupid bloodlust he’ll only kill when he needs too) the Master Chief doesn’t really do “holding back”.

Basically he’s what the Cyborgs want to be when they grow up.

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Barrier Jackets again? Good thing internet is fixed then.

First of, do Barrier Jackets give protection even to unclothed areas? Yes. Take a look at this manga page:

Spoiler for IS: Silver Retriever:


Barrier Jackets create both a field and a barrier, now why would you limit the area of protection to what is clothed if you can make it cover the entire body? Seems like the most logical choice is to make it cover the entire body. Does this stop people from grabbing you? Of course not. It does, however, protect one from incomming attacks. Not completely (its an automated defence, after all, it not nearly as powerfull as one made with actual effort) but it does suit to soften blows, and logically eliminate the damage of lower-tier attacks.
This proves… nothing. A barrier could be anything and further given it’s a damn BARRIER jacket the jacket itself could be the barrier component, in fact that seems entirely plausible since we see it absorb significant hits a number of times and we never see a serious blow to the face or exposed limbs to judge that’s effects, but my guess is it ends up being “messy”.
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Why should they need to bounce of eachother? this isn't the SG:A personal shield, you know. If you want support, the cast gets thrown through buildings without suffering as much as a scratch. Even though they're wearing skimpy clothing, they come out of it just fine and carry on as if nothing happened. Why? Because the Barrier Jackets shielded them from the blow.
I see so this always on omnipresent force field of invisibility simple turns off when every a mage makes contact with something? I can’t see how THAT would be a problem… And once again this also fails to explain why every time we see a sword swing or the like it hits the jacket and not some force field an inch off the skin like we see the little scuff mark on Nanoha after Eiro hits her in training if it was stopped by some omnipresent force field an inch above the thing that shouldn’t happen, or dose this force field now ONLY cover the exposed areas? Or another example how come Signum and Fate can give each other small cuts repeatedly a number of them inflicted on Fate being on her bare skin?

If this field exists at it’s so pathetically weak as to be useless against any kind of hit and so it’s moot anyway, I just don’t think it exist period, at least not as a physical barrier. An omnipresent field that greatly mitigates magical attacks definitely, an invisible Master Chief style energy shield? I don’t think so.

HOWEVER I am willing to consider that the jacket has inertial dampening properties given that mages don’t seem to strain under G forces even during fairly hard maneuvers it would also explain their resistance to being tossed around as if this field or effect could counter the deceleration forces encountered during the impact. (Ultimately there is no difference between slamming on the brakes in your car and jerking forward and falling of a sky scraper expect the magnitude of the forces involved.) This helps explain the impact and fall mitigation while also explaining why it dosen't acutally stop the hits to begin with.

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Then why is it so hard to believe that a society which is farther in us not only in technollogy, but also utilizes magic can make outfits that protect the entire body, rather then only what is clothed.
Because armor doesn’t protect stuff it doesn’t cover.

Who in their right mind would look at a barrier jacket and how it’s used and go “You know I bet in reality the entire person is really covered by an invisible force field that provides the same protection everywhere and the jacket is totally for show.”

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The OFM kicks ass man. Pity their targets though.

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Ok, here goes

Chapter 21

Spoiler for Chapter 21 - Koji's Knighting - Part 1:


Well, that's it for part 1

Here's a small teaser.
Spoiler for Teaser:

Their personalities are somewhat alike after all

*runs*
Altea shows up and Koji gives her sound advice right before he leaves. And well onto the knighting part next.

And out of curiosity, with Koji's knighting, BreakerS will be reaching its finale soon correct?
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I'm liking Altea alot
Does her ability to hear thoughts extend out into the real world as well? As in still working when she isn't in the trial area? If so some amusing/interesting scenarios could happen
Well, it's rather limited outside of L-Space (short Labyrinth Space, her domain )

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Because armor doesn’t protect stuff it doesn’t cover.

Who in their right mind would look at a barrier jacket and how it’s used and go “You know I bet in reality the entire person is really covered by an invisible force field that provides the same protection everywhere and the jacket is totally for show.”
Actually, that's probably how it goes

Though, I think that the exposed areas are less protected than the covered areas, but there's still a barrier and a field applied.

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Altea shows up and Koji gives her sound advice right before he leaves. And well onto the knighting part next.

And out of curiosity, with Koji's knighting, BreakerS will be reaching its finale soon correct?
Not really...I'd say BreakerS' story is about halfway done
There's still more plot twists to be done, more character development (Yui, Maren, Treize and maybe some others too )

So it still has a loooooong way to go before it ends
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Actually, that's probably how it goes

Though, I think that the exposed areas are less protected than the covered areas, but there's still a barrier and a field applied.
If by "less protected" you mean "Basically not at all against physical impact" then yes that's probably how it works. Seriously though to you guys that apparently think the jacket dose nothing and ALL the defense comes from some invisible field around the person I ask you then what the hell is the point of said jacket? Besides looking cool which is NOT a valid reason IMO.
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