2010-12-01, 12:27 | Link #10261 |
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The issue isn't really with nationalism by itself, but when nationalism is associated with others problems; it's more like a cathallizer than a cause.
Pakistan dismisses concerns about its nuclear weapons, calls them 'the safest' http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1819975/ I'm not really convinced by Pakistan's claim but I guess than nobody would say than their nukes might end-up on others hands.
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2010-12-01, 12:49 | Link #10262 | |
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And nationalism in and of itself does not cause problems, but the mindset a nationalist develops can lead to warfare, colonialism, etc, thus it is a dangerous and (imo, given our current understanding of science and history) outdated way of thinking. Nations haven't even been in existence for 10% of humankind's time on the earth. |
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2010-12-01, 13:00 | Link #10263 | ||
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you don't need nationalism to have conflict. all you need are people. when its between individuals, we call it crime/Murder. when its between families, we call it a feud when its between Tribes, we call it a tribel dispute when its between nations, we call it war. there is a saying in Arabic. "Me against my brothers, my brothers and me against my cousin, my cousins and I against the world" all human interactions are based on circles of relations. that which is mine, and that which is outside of what is mine, in ever expending circles. Me, my family, my Clan, my tribe, my nation. each circle built around the previous ones, not replacing them, but expending them to include more people. nationalism is a step in a positive direction actually, as it is the next logical circle. it gives me a reason to care about the well being of people, who i don't even know personally. now, if you want to champion the next circle (caring about EVEYONE) thats fine and well. but it doesn't replace the old circles. it only expends on them.
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2010-12-01, 13:05 | Link #10264 |
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Nationalism in the sense that we're part of a collective community with shared interests, as you're defining it, is of course a positive and is part of our species survival strategy.
But look at who I was replying to. Sumeragi is clearly using nationalism in the militant 'we are better than you, integrate into us' sense, which is a bad thing no matter how you look at it. |
2010-12-01, 13:06 | Link #10265 | |
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thats imperialism. and i don't dispute that its bad. i'm just saying that this is not what nationalism is about.
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2010-12-01, 13:09 | Link #10267 | |
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doesn't really matter how he calls it.
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2010-12-01, 13:56 | Link #10268 | |
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During the Cold War, it would have taken 30 minutes for Russian missiles to reach the US, and surveillance systems were in place to monitor launches. Hence, for security reasons US nuclear missile subs cannot launch on their own, they have to receive a launch code from a command and control aircraft. The UK, on the other hand, would only get about a 10 minute warning. Hence, the Royal Navy decided that it's submarine Captains should be able to launch on their own. Also, they apparently found the idea that Royal Navy personal would go rogue and start WW3 insulting. To this day, British nuclear missile subs have no launch codes on their missiles whatsoever (or so I've been told). A nuclear weapon launch in India or Pakistan can reach targets in the other country in as little as three minutes. And many politicians there rely on cell phones because land lines are unreliable. I'd be very surprised if there's much red tape to cut prior to a launch.
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2010-12-01, 17:28 | Link #10269 | |||
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The problem is with their currency. The rouble is so hyperinflated that it is difficult to even trade with it. Quote:
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The Russians and US have spies everywhere. Most of them function as agents of provocation or influence, so they are harder to catch. Including that fapworthy spy busted by the FBI earlier this year (pun unintended, I know she has got a nice chest!).
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On a side note, grab your Euros while they're cheap. It's almost as cheap as the lowest point of the Euro this year: 58eurocents to the SGD. So I guess it's true, the rouble really is going mad. Quote:
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Are you sure it isn't the former USSR states that are endangered by a resurgent Russia (refer to Georgia)? |
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2010-12-01, 21:07 | Link #10272 | |||
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Defensive pan-nationalism. Quote:
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Second, see above reply. |
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2010-12-01, 21:33 | Link #10273 | |
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I don't particularly know what's going on, but I do know that Japan and Korea are only friendly, trade-wise.
Politically... don't ask me. On to more news. Canadians, WATCH OUT. Quote:
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2010-12-01, 22:42 | Link #10278 |
books-eater youkai
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Speaking of another news from Canada:
Ex-Harper adviser regrets ‘glib’ call for retaliatory WikiLeaks assassination http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1820612/
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2010-12-01, 23:01 | Link #10279 | |
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Japan has lifted the one pound restriction on shipping to the US that started after the "printer cartridge bomb". So the small shipping from individuals and small business can re-commence...
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