2010-04-28, 19:49 | Link #9541 |
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I think those letters can mean either two things. It was either payment for Kumasawa's and Nanjo's services or an apology to their families if they died. It's a double meaning in case one of two things happened during the two days. As for Rudolph's well that is pretty much the stump in the middle of that line of thinking lol.
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2010-04-28, 19:51 | Link #9542 |
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I wonder if the reason they thought it was her jaw was because of the size of the jaw and not because of dental records. A child's jaw would be much different from an adult's especially since she doesn't even have wisdom teeth yet.
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2010-04-28, 19:56 | Link #9544 |
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Um. They were all sent from Niijima, on the same day, to very different fake addresses, with correct return addresses, so when fake addresses properly bounced, they arrived back to the return addresses. One person can do it just fine.
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2010-04-28, 20:00 | Link #9546 |
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It is. It is possible to reliably determine sex from the jaw, considerably less reliably determine age. Basically the only jaws on the island that could possibly replace Maria's are Shannon's, and Kanon's if he's actually female. The age difference between them is nevertheless significant, and could still be detected.
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EDIT: Oh, notice that it's not an area code, it's a lot number. Japanese street addresses don't have streets and number lots in very complicated ways.
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2010-04-28, 20:12 | Link #9548 |
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The headache sounds like something that could happen if you were under hypnosis at one point. Well it's just a thought... if somebody was interested in mind control they could make you have a forced headache or even make you puke when you try and remember things your not supposed to. I guess you could call it an affect of brainwashing.
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2010-04-28, 20:13 | Link #9549 | |
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2010-04-28, 20:16 | Link #9550 |
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It was just a thought. People seem to think that the headaches are important, and since in a lot of cases they seem to be triggered by memories I thought it made sense. It doesn't have to be true, but it could be true in a fictional story as a minor point. Not everything that happens in fictions happens in real life anyway.
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2010-04-28, 20:35 | Link #9552 | |
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2010-04-28, 21:39 | Link #9553 | |
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2010-04-28, 21:54 | Link #9554 | |
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there has never been an Hurricane named Beatrice, some months ago I actually checked and found out there is a preset list of names that can be used to name Hurricanes and Beatrice isn't in it.
About Maria's "piece of jaw", the ending scroll specify that this was one of the first cases where one body's identity was recognized through dental records. Quote:
-If Maria isn't dead, then someone wants to make everyone believe so. -If they could use bribery or manipulation, they wouldn't need to make up the story of the jaw. they'd find something by far more convincing, like a whole fake body falsely recognized as Maria's. -Therefore the fragment of the jaw was intended to fool everyone -I had a teeth imprint at the age of 6 and I was born the same year as Maria so it's definitely nowhere close to be unlikely. The jaw's bone fragment is fake, the teeth are true. The one who planned this sham knew that due to the situation the police would use dental records to identify the corpse. So the culprit needed someone's teeth, and there was only person whom could be deprived of her teeth without harsh consequences. Or more precisely, only one person who could have their teeth at disposal to begin with, especially if she was told to prepare them. And that person was Maria. Because children at that age tend to change their teeth. Quite conveniently the only one who could be identified by the police, was Maria.
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I think it's a pretty big miracle that she had any dental records at all at that young of an age. But I think a child's jaw would be drastically different from an adult's or a teenagers so I'm not really complaining. I also don't think Ryukishi would think that hard since he didn't do much research on anatomy to portray Nanjo's knowledge as a doctor very well. Oh well...
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2010-04-28, 22:22 | Link #9557 |
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Why it is so strange for Maria to have a dental record? Teeth imprints are required to make movable dental braces and children of that age are not so unlikely to need them. I did...
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2010-04-29, 01:31 | Link #9559 |
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Dental x-rays would provide enough information to identify teeth and perhaps also Maria's jaw, depending on the type of x-ray. Many children have their teeth x-rayed as often as six months because their teeth are growing and changing so rapidly.
I don't think it would be plausible to use a false jaw and real (baby) teeth for a variety of reasons: baby teeth are different in shape and size from adult teeth so the mouth would look like it belonged to a much younger child than Maria, any act of gluing teeth to a jaw would leave evidence of the gluing, and even if it didn't leave traces, it would be nearly impossible to arrange the teeth on the jaw in such a way that they could identify the fragment using dental records unless they actually had access to Maria's dental records because spacing and angles are also used in these kinds of investigations. I think we have to assume the jaw fragment is real. |
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Identifying the jaw of any of the siblings would be pretty much automatic, with how much restorative work people accumulate by their 50s. Why is it that the one body identified by dental records is also the one with the shortest possible dental record among them all, and the one with the highest chance of being misidentified? Quote:
Notice that for Maria not to be dead after Ep3 she has to defeat the red, that's the first time she is dead before endgame rolls in. And Ep4 1998 is supposedly a future that remains after Ep3, or at least we're obviously meant to assume that. Mysteriously, even then it still revolves around Maria.
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