2012-12-08, 13:32 | Link #4226 |
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Age: 38
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They aired a certain Sakura scene in episode 1 of Fate/Zero. There are ways to include H-scene context without including the H-scene, and ufotable seems to understand how that's done. It happens in American TV and movies all the time.
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2012-12-11, 11:20 | Link #4229 |
Kana Hanazawa ♥
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: France
Age: 37
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If it ever gets adapted, they will most likely use the Realta Nua version as the basis, so they won't have to bother with H-scenes. Penisworm rape can be shown without being too explicit, like in F/Z.
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2013-01-08, 07:04 | Link #4234 | |
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Well, that's mostly what Realta Nua does, I think, except for the sex scenes and the rape scene, that are a lot harder to just do "off-camera".
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2013-02-24, 15:48 | Link #4235 |
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Hello, guys. I have a question about Fuyuki's church: If I remmember well, Kotomine left when Grail War 4 ended and locked up the orphans in church's basement for Gil's mana supply.
I don't remmember excatly, but what happened to the church between these 10 years? They locked it or something? This question came up these days and I couldn't find the answer. If I'm wrong, please, correct me. |
2013-03-01, 19:18 | Link #4237 |
The Bookworm
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: North Carolina...sadly
Age: 30
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Who cares if HF's H-scenes are censored? I mean, all Shirou and Sakura have to is kiss, then in the next scene say "we bumped uglies". If everything else is animated appropriately, then I'll be able to die happy.
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2013-05-18, 13:51 | Link #4239 |
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So after much research and speculation ide like to possibly make some Sakura fans happy. I enjoyed all the Fate/Stay routes and like many others I was pretty appalled at the Sakura situation. While im not really a Sakura fan I felt after playing through HF that it soured my view of The ending for my beloved fate route haha, mainly because I thought its messed up how Sakura is left high and dry.
Ive come to realize that Sakura isn't screwed in the Fate Route at least. Zouken never made an appearance in that route at all, so we all assume He is still being a dick and torturing Sakura. Zouken is however mentioned in the Fate Route, he is possibly dead. On the 13th day of Fate Shirou asks Kotomine about Gilgamesh, sometime during the conversation Kotomine mentions that someone could have been hiding him. The original master, or "A Magus that knew about the grail war but did not become a master". This would mean Zouken, its then confirmed the very next sentence. "I know one such person, but that is impossible as well. The old Makiri has already retired". The key here would be Retired. Its used in a way that would imply death, in the verb sense of to "recede or Disappear". In Fate/Zero Kotomine mentions that Zouken is an enemy that he needs to kill one day. Its possible that before Fate starts Kotomine acts on that. He would certainly be capable of it because of his Baptism rite ability which directly harms the soul. We already know from HF that Zouken's soul itself is decaying. The baptism rite in theory would wipe out whats left of Zouken's soul. Alternatively (and much more likely) Zouken could have just run out of time and soul decayed, which seems to fit the description of "retired" more accurately. Seeing as all the routes are separate from each other and essentially their own story this could work. Hypothetically now(don't get upset) lets assume Fate is the "true" route for the series, that would make ubw and HF just what IF stories, with that in mind we have the information in fate that Zouken is dead that's why he doesn't appear. Soooo that would make HF a what IF story like ok what if that old makiri guy they mentioned was still around? Bam there is HF, they expand on the idea. The same would apply if you choose HF as the main route, that would make Fate a what IF story, what if zouken died before the war. With all this said my main point of this post was to say that If we believe Zouken is dead in Fate that means Sakura can live a happy life free of the Matou family bull kucka, because Zouken isn't around and neither is Shinji. I hope this will give some Sakura fans closure on her "fate" in at least the Fate route. |
2013-05-19, 14:39 | Link #4240 |
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Costa Rica
Age: 33
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Well one of the things I never like about Fate Stay/Night is the idea of having these routes from the start. I know sounds odd, and I really enjoy the Fate route and so far the UBW seems good enough (Still need to complete HF but I know how it ends). My problem with them is just that each route must exploit elements from the setting but at the price of not mentioning others. In Fate Caster is kill rather brutally and quick, Assassin vanishes without even appearing a second time and we focus more on Shirou and Saber. In UBW is the other way around and we focus on Rin and Archer. And is fine but my point will be sounds like if they come up with so many things that in the end they didn’t bother to use all the elements.
Each story focuses more on some of the setting and gives it development while ignoring or not even mention other elements. As we saw with Sakura in Fate, she might as well just fall down a hole because we lost her in a few moments and when we see the things in HF is not surprise one wonder how could we ignore this the first time? Is kind of odd and while a “What If” scenario might explain it still raises questions and can be criticize. I guess the idea of one of this routes being the “true” story of Fate/Stay Night is kind of personal preference. One can say anything about the anime adaptation but at least the try to balance some of the elements better and give each one a chance to explain and show their stories instead of just having characters die and never bother to tell us what was their deal. And yes, I know some things were missing but still. So, about Sakura in the other routes… well kind of speaks by itself that in those she isn’t important. If each story can be the “right” one then in any other route that isn’t HF Sakura’s role isn’t as important and in Fate can be describe as anecdotic. So pick what you like. I don’t hate Sakura but, to be honest, after what I see in Fate and UBW I really don’t care about her either. Maybe HF will change my mind.
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