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SeaDoor · 2018-02-03, 21:17

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Originally Posted by Stark700

...It's interesting they adapted Stella into this show...

I believe this is where Stella was introduced in the story.

Kanon · 2018-02-03, 21:26

This time Elias was the damsel in distress. Nice to see the role reversed.

Ashen Eye is really creepy (Jouji Nakata is doing such a great job voicing him). Hard to tell if he was serious or if he was toying with them as Chise surmised. He seemed pretty damn serious to me, but he did give Chise a pretty big hint to help her win the game. In any case it's rather worrisome that even Elias is powerless against him.

blakstealth · 2018-02-03, 21:29

Chise's reaction to Ashen Eye's last line is pretty much what I felt.

Twi · 2018-02-03, 22:08

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Originally Posted by SeaDoor

I believe this is where Stella was introduced in the story.

They're probably assuming that the anime might skimp. They did cut out some little things and given what comes in the manga and how we doubt they'll get to where it is...

Season 3?

SeijiSensei · 2018-02-03, 22:18

Has Chise adopted a bear form before? Neither my friend with whom I watch this nor I can remember a scene where she becomes a bear. I only remember her as a beautiful fox and, of course, the phoenix. I don't remember seeing her as a bear.

Kanon · 2018-02-04, 10:40

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Originally Posted by SeijiSensei

Has Chise adopted a bear form before? Neither my friend with whom I watch this nor I can remember a scene where she becomes a bear. I only remember her as a beautiful fox and, of course, the phoenix. I don't remember seeing her as a bear.

That was indeed her first time transforming into a bear. I was surprised since I logically thought the fox hide could only turn her into a fox. I'm guessing she can turn into other animals too.

Twi · 2018-02-04, 11:56

Here's my recap and review. As for the bear explanation, it's in the next manga chapter after the one this was adapted off of (chapter 29) that Elias tells her about it. It should be explained in the next episode, but if they don't give that information then I'll put up another summary.

BBOvenGuy · 2018-02-04, 16:26

This was my favorite episode of the series so far.

A couple of days ago, the latest Natsume Yuujinchou OVA came out, and so as the episode started, I found myself thinking it would be fun if Chise & co. could go to Japan and meet up with Natsume and Nyanko-sensei. Then Elias made himself look sort of like Chise when he and Ethan were trapped, and it reminded me that the only human forms Nyanko-sensei can take are Natsume and Reiko.

Stella and Ethan were great - but then, I have a niece and nephew who are about those ages, so maybe I'm biased.

Stark700 · 2018-02-10, 14:00

Well, I thought episode 18 would be one with a lot of joy since Chise made a new friend (Stella). However, the mood went sour once I saw Cartaphilus return. Seems trouble always comes along whenever Cartaphilus shows up...

On the other hand, I'm really glad this episode gave Ruth a chance to help Chise.

Plus, Chise and Elias still share a close relationship even up to this point in this series.

AB079 · 2018-02-10, 14:42

The episode showed that despite all the developments between Chise and Elias, both of them are still inexperienced and filled with doubts about themselves, in this case Elias was the one that's more affected by that. At the same time this shows how their own relationship is really close and that they can't live without the other anymore, of course this doesn't apply just to them but for Silkie and Ruth too.

Joseph is causing trouble again, this time messing with Lindel and the dragons which is probably going to lead to another tragedy. The preview is basically hinting that something terrible is about to happen.

Mad Pierrot · 2018-02-10, 16:10

That lullaby scene was nice but I loved how Chise said she was horrible singing. Still, I don't about her actress' experience

Kanon · 2018-02-10, 19:57

It was said numerous times throughout the series, but I had never fully realized just how much of a child Elias is until now. Dude got madly jealous of a little girl. His tamper tantrums are a big issue, given how powerful he is.

Really liked the scene with Chise and Angelica's husband.

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Originally Posted by AB079

Joseph is causing trouble again, this time messing with Lindel and the dragons which is probably going to lead to another tragedy. The preview is basically hinting that something terrible is about to happen.

He did something to Stella as well, and he appears to be working with Ashen Eye. I have no idea what he's planning this time, but it obviously isn't anything good.

blakstealth · 2018-02-10, 23:04

oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit, what the heck is Joseph scheming now? When I saw him walk past Stella, my heart sank. What did he do to her? And what were those tentacles coming out of those poachers? Those poor dragons...

SeaDoor · 2018-02-11, 14:46

*sigh*
I had hopes that maybe we wouldn't make it to this part of the story but it looks like we have.

Twi · 2018-02-11, 20:08

Sorry for being late with the review and recap.

Now I promised I'd explain the whole thing with the pelt if they didn't, so here's some details they left out:

Spoiler for missing information:

The first is that that Ashen Eyes explains why he’s helping Joseph. He likes seeing people shaken to their core because that’s what makes his heart jump for joy. Working with a wizard like Joseph is purely pragmatism.

The second is an explanation of how the Were-Pelt worked. There’s a flashback to where Elias explains there are two kinds of lycanthropes: those born with the ability and those cursed. That pelt is the latter and has a will of its own. It was made during a time when humans were afriad of wolves and so shamans and the like tried to help them get over it by turning into that which they feared, meaning that they could confront it head-on. It listens to the wishes of the one who wears it and turns them into the animal that suits it best it. Whoever had the pelt before her had it in a fox pelt because they needed it, but she can legit transform into any form and it doesn't use any of her own magic and won't stress her body.

Third was the sleeping spell. It’s explained that spells are basically signals that mages send to neighbors for help, like recipes for magic or sheet music. Since a lullaby is basically a song to help someone sleep, imbued with magic it’d do just that and knocked Elias asleep for four days. Normally it'd require intent on the mage's part, but Chise has a talent for sleeping-inducing things to the point where her sleeping aid turned into a sleeping potion, so she kind of cast the spell accidentally. She also explains that Chise is the one who’d have the easiest time removing the spell since she cast it, the law of lock and key in that if you don’t insert the right key into the lock then the key would break. So rather than trying to break the spell through pure magic, she decided to have Chise make an elixir that could help and gave her the recipe. Chise was exhausted when she gave it to him because she spent a full day and night making it because she messed up several times. She was also coughing up blood earlier because she was trying to use magic to awaken him before that, hence why she asked Ruth not to tell Elias she'd broken her promise then.

Angelica's husband also points out that Angelica refers to Chise like a second daughter, hence why her actual daughter was short-tempered with her, and that he spent a full decade trying to marry Angelica. Part of why she agreed was because they have good compatibility, since he can do things that need to be done without bothering her, essentially meaning that she can do her work with materials (which is her talent) without needing to worry about everything else.

Last was that Joseph spoke more to Lindel in the manga about why he was taking the dragons. He only wanted one dragon for its flesh, but he’d take the spare as well. Lindel also didn’t want the dragons to get a taste of human flesh, so that was why he didn’t have them just swarm the guys and got his hands dirty.

Kanon · 2018-02-12, 12:36

As always, thanks for the explanations. Shame the anime is leaving out all that stuff, it helps a lot with the world building.

Stark700 · 2018-02-17, 14:01

Wow, what an episode this week!

The way they protrayed that dragon is human-like with the emotions. Very impressive.

AB079 · 2018-02-17, 14:24

This was incredibly sad, honestly, is evident the pain and the feelings, the fear and desperation. Chise managed to connect with all of that, for now I have no idea how she's going to handle this situation, mainly beacause I believe this is going to take a different path (not the same as the manga).

Kanon · 2018-02-17, 19:53

Somehow, Elias seemed really evil in that new form of his. Part of it is most likely because he could actually emote, but the things he said were rather ominous.

I felt bad for the poor Dragon, and hope this arc will have a nice resolution.

Chise's "dream" about Joseph was rather intriguing. Seemed like he had a split personality.

Haak · 2018-02-18, 08:30

Felt like the episode dragged on a bit but otherwise it was interesting. Joseph is probably the only antagonist in this story that actually makes you concerned for what will happen so it's good that he's back in this story.

Really horrible to see the dragon treated that way but it really frustrates me how there still doesn't seem to be any judgement imposed on those profit on this sort of thing. I noted earlier how the story seemed to give that slave trader a pass and it felt like they did the same thing this episode too.

2018-02-03, 21:26	Link #402
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	This time Elias was the damsel in distress. Nice to see the role reversed. Ashen Eye is really creepy (Jouji Nakata is doing such a great job voicing him). Hard to tell if he was serious or if he was toying with them as Chise surmised. He seemed pretty damn serious to me, but he did give Chise a pretty big hint to help her win the game. In any case it's rather worrisome that even Elias is powerless against him. __________________

2018-02-03, 22:18	Link #405
SeijiSensei AS Oji-kun Join Date: Nov 2006 Age: 74	Has Chise adopted a bear form before? Neither my friend with whom I watch this nor I can remember a scene where she becomes a bear. I only remember her as a beautiful fox and, of course, the phoenix. I don't remember seeing her as a bear. __________________ Taking Anime Seriously - Politics by the Numbers - Sports by the Numbers - MAL List - Avatars - Images

2018-02-04, 11:56	Link #407
Twi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Here's my recap and review. As for the bear explanation, it's in the next manga chapter after the one this was adapted off of (chapter 29) that Elias tells her about it. It should be explained in the next episode, but if they don't give that information then I'll put up another summary. __________________

2018-02-10, 14:00	Link #409
Stark700 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Somewhere on Earth	Well, I thought episode 18 would be one with a lot of joy since Chise made a new friend (Stella). However, the mood went sour once I saw Cartaphilus return. Seems trouble always comes along whenever Cartaphilus shows up... On the other hand, I'm really glad this episode gave Ruth a chance to help Chise. Plus, Chise and Elias still share a close relationship even up to this point in this series. __________________

2018-02-10, 16:10	Link #411
Mad Pierrot Corrupted fool Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: I'm everywhere Age: 33	That lullaby scene was nice but I loved how Chise said she was horrible singing. Still, I don't about her actress' experience __________________

2018-02-03, 21:29	Link #403
blakstealth Les Pays Bass Join Date: Jun 2011	Chise's reaction to Ashen Eye's last line is pretty much what I felt.

2018-02-04, 16:26	Link #408
BBOvenGuy Math Ninja Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ventura County CA Age: 59	This was my favorite episode of the series so far. A couple of days ago, the latest Natsume Yuujinchou OVA came out, and so as the episode started, I found myself thinking it would be fun if Chise & co. could go to Japan and meet up with Natsume and Nyanko-sensei. Then Elias made himself look sort of like Chise when he and Ethan were trapped, and it reminded me that the only human forms Nyanko-sensei can take are Natsume and Reiko. Stella and Ethan were great - but then, I have a niece and nephew who are about those ages, so maybe I'm biased.

2018-02-10, 14:42	Link #410
AB079 Banned Join Date: Apr 2016	The episode showed that despite all the developments between Chise and Elias, both of them are still inexperienced and filled with doubts about themselves, in this case Elias was the one that's more affected by that. At the same time this shows how their own relationship is really close and that they can't live without the other anymore, of course this doesn't apply just to them but for Silkie and Ruth too. Joseph is causing trouble again, this time messing with Lindel and the dragons which is probably going to lead to another tragedy. The preview is basically hinting that something terrible is about to happen.

2018-02-10, 23:04	Link #413
blakstealth Les Pays Bass Join Date: Jun 2011	oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit, what the heck is Joseph scheming now? When I saw him walk past Stella, my heart sank. What did he do to her? And what were those tentacles coming out of those poachers? Those poor dragons...

2018-02-11, 14:46	Link #414
SeaDoor Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Southeastern US	sigh I had hopes that maybe we wouldn't make it to this part of the story but it looks like we have.

2018-02-11, 20:08	Link #415
Twi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Sorry for being late with the review and recap. Now I promised I'd explain the whole thing with the pelt if they didn't, so here's some details they left out: Spoiler for missing information: The first is that that Ashen Eyes explains why he’s helping Joseph. He likes seeing people shaken to their core because that’s what makes his heart jump for joy. Working with a wizard like Joseph is purely pragmatism. The second is an explanation of how the Were-Pelt worked. There’s a flashback to where Elias explains there are two kinds of lycanthropes: those born with the ability and those cursed. That pelt is the latter and has a will of its own. It was made during a time when humans were afriad of wolves and so shamans and the like tried to help them get over it by turning into that which they feared, meaning that they could confront it head-on. It listens to the wishes of the one who wears it and turns them into the animal that suits it best it. Whoever had the pelt before her had it in a fox pelt because they needed it, but she can legit transform into any form and it doesn't use any of her own magic and won't stress her body. Third was the sleeping spell. It’s explained that spells are basically signals that mages send to neighbors for help, like recipes for magic or sheet music. Since a lullaby is basically a song to help someone sleep, imbued with magic it’d do just that and knocked Elias asleep for four days. Normally it'd require intent on the mage's part, but Chise has a talent for sleeping-inducing things to the point where her sleeping aid turned into a sleeping potion, so she kind of cast the spell accidentally. She also explains that Chise is the one who’d have the easiest time removing the spell since she cast it, the law of lock and key in that if you don’t insert the right key into the lock then the key would break. So rather than trying to break the spell through pure magic, she decided to have Chise make an elixir that could help and gave her the recipe. Chise was exhausted when she gave it to him because she spent a full day and night making it because she messed up several times. She was also coughing up blood earlier because she was trying to use magic to awaken him before that, hence why she asked Ruth not to tell Elias she'd broken her promise then. Angelica's husband also points out that Angelica refers to Chise like a second daughter, hence why her actual daughter was short-tempered with her, and that he spent a full decade trying to marry Angelica. Part of why she agreed was because they have good compatibility, since he can do things that need to be done without bothering her, essentially meaning that she can do her work with materials (which is her talent) without needing to worry about everything else. Last was that Joseph spoke more to Lindel in the manga about why he was taking the dragons. He only wanted one dragon for its flesh, but he’d take the spare as well. Lindel also didn’t want the dragons to get a taste of human flesh, so that was why he didn’t have them just swarm the guys and got his hands dirty. __________________ Last edited by LKK; 2018-02-12 at 08:35. Reason: added spoiler box for manga comparison info

2018-02-12, 12:36	Link #416
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	As always, thanks for the explanations. Shame the anime is leaving out all that stuff, it helps a lot with the world building. __________________

2018-02-17, 14:01	Link #417
Stark700 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Somewhere on Earth	Wow, what an episode this week! The way they protrayed that dragon is human-like with the emotions. Very impressive. __________________

2018-02-17, 14:24	Link #418
AB079 Banned Join Date: Apr 2016	This was incredibly sad, honestly, is evident the pain and the feelings, the fear and desperation. Chise managed to connect with all of that, for now I have no idea how she's going to handle this situation, mainly beacause I believe this is going to take a different path (not the same as the manga).

2018-02-17, 19:53	Link #419
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Somehow, Elias seemed really evil in that new form of his. Part of it is most likely because he could actually emote, but the things he said were rather ominous. I felt bad for the poor Dragon, and hope this arc will have a nice resolution. Chise's "dream" about Joseph was rather intriguing. Seemed like he had a split personality. __________________

2018-02-18, 08:30	Link #420
Haak Me, An Intellectual Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: UK Age: 33	Felt like the episode dragged on a bit but otherwise it was interesting. Joseph is probably the only antagonist in this story that actually makes you concerned for what will happen so it's good that he's back in this story. Really horrible to see the dragon treated that way but it really frustrates me how there still doesn't seem to be any judgement imposed on those profit on this sort of thing. I noted earlier how the story seemed to give that slave trader a pass and it felt like they did the same thing this episode too. __________________ MAL \| AnimeSuki Choice Awards 2020 Winners