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Old 2012-09-28, 06:05   Link #3521
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Im interested in what Behemoth said, about Furuichi being "special" because he was able to have so many spirits.

This reminds me of Manta in shaman king, where he became able to use a spirit near the end.
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Old 2012-09-28, 07:55   Link #3522
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The thing about Furuichi's power was the demon he made force contracts with. Oga, Aoi, and Saotome have fair contracts with Demons.

Force contracts is how it sound, you make a contract with Demons without their consent and have the greater part of the Deal while Demons havve little or no benefit only being able to watch the effects of their power being use. The pro of force contracts is that Furuichi can use all the power he likes, con is it depends on how much his body can take it due to the side effects of blinding, killing of brain cells, and death. Another con is that it seems like the body doesn't improve fighting abilities when using the power, so the use of the power is unlimited but doesn't improve the user's body.

Fair contracts is how it sounds, cooperation and partnership with Demons with both side having equal ground. The pro of fair contracts is that the use of Demon power can actually improve the fighting abilities of the user. Oga, Aoi, and Saotome have all demonstrated fighting growth of their body without the use of Demon power. Such as Oga possessing monster strength, Aoi can fight toe to toe with Hilda now, and Saotome well nothing is known but most likely he improved since High School. Another pro is there is no side effects of the use of Demon power. The partnership of the Demons can improve as well and may allow more usage of power in different ways. The con of fair contracts is that the user may not be able to use of the power he or she likes.
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Old 2012-09-28, 08:24   Link #3523
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The thing about Furuichi's power was the demon he made force contracts with. Oga, Aoi, and Saotome have fair contracts with Demons.

Force contracts is how it sound, you make a contract with Demons without their consent and have the greater part of the Deal while Demons havve little or no benefit only being able to watch the effects of their power being use. The pro of force contracts is that Furuichi can use all the power he likes, con is it depends on how much his body can take it due to the side effects of blinding, killing of brain cells, and death. Another con is that it seems like the body doesn't improve fighting abilities when using the power, so the use of the power is unlimited but doesn't improve the user's body.

Fair contracts is how it sounds, cooperation and partnership with Demons with both side having equal ground. The pro of fair contracts is that the use of Demon power can actually improve the fighting abilities of the user. Oga, Aoi, and Saotome have all demonstrated fighting growth of their body without the use of Demon power. Such as Oga possessing monster strength, Aoi can fight toe to toe with Hilda now, and Saotome well nothing is known but most likely he improved since High School. Another pro is there is no side effects of the use of Demon power. The partnership of the Demons can improve as well and may allow more usage of power in different ways. The con of fair contracts is that the user may not be able to use of the power he or she likes.
not sure i can agree with this. Behemoth controled how much power he gave furuichi. the demons were in control the hole time except when furuichi really wanted them to not do something. Oga has had negative side effects from Beel cause he wasn't strong enough, now he's strong enough a normal person would die from Beels power.
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Old 2012-09-28, 09:37   Link #3524
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And the demons weren't forced into contracts. At least, not by Furuichi. They made a contract with Beel's father.
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Old 2012-09-28, 10:53   Link #3525
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And the demons weren't forced into contracts. At least, not by Furuichi. They made a contract with Beel's father.
Though I don't know what is sadder, the fact he gave their contracts away as a prize or the fact the contract items are a pack of tissues
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Old 2012-09-28, 12:40   Link #3526
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Oga has had negative side effects from Beel cause he wasn't strong enough, now he's strong enough a normal person would die from Beels power.
Indeed for example there was a risk of Oga losing his humanity and becoming a demon (the tatoo appearing over his entire body thing early in the manga) of course that was such a long time ago most readers have forgotten about it.
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Though I don't know what is sadder, the fact he gave their contracts away as a prize or the fact the contract items are a pack of tissues
Neither from the Demon King's perspective Behemoth's squad must be pretty weak and, in typical shounen fashion, he most likely has a more powerful squad at his command.
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Old 2012-09-28, 15:01   Link #3527
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Indeed for example there was a risk of Oga losing his humanity and becoming a demon (the tatoo appearing over his entire body thing early in the manga) of course that was such a long time ago most readers have forgotten about it.
Neither from the Demon King's perspective Behemoth's squad must be pretty weak and, in typical shounen fashion, he most likely has a more powerful squad at his command.
I remember about the tattoo, it was in chapter 6. Though the only time Oga was overloading with Baby Beel's power was at chapter 37. The Super Milk Time isn't exactly power given from Baby Beel's, more like Oga went and drink Hydra Milk and went berserk. Not many side effects from Baby Beel's power to Oga I can see with notable harm.

As for stronger Demons, that I do not doubt. Not sure if they are allies though, seems more like enemies. The Demon Athrun in chapter 48 appears to be a stronger Demon and the fact he made a comment to kill Baby Beel's leads one to think their is a opposing group against the Demon King or Beelzebub family. Maybe Lucifer or another one from the 7 Princes of Hell.

As for the force contract, maybe I should have wrote that better it was early in the morning so my brain wasn't awake. Furuichi had informal contracts as oppose to Formal contracts like Oga, Aoi, and Saotome.
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Old 2012-10-02, 08:45   Link #3528
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So he was already strong ?
Liked the end. XD
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Old 2012-10-02, 09:28   Link #3529
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This is the best arc in the manga, period.
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Old 2012-10-02, 09:35   Link #3530
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So he was already strong ?
Liked the end. XD
Yes, strong in being a punching bag
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Old 2012-10-02, 09:56   Link #3531
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So he was already strong ?
Liked the end. XD
He took hits from Oga and didn't collapse, look at other people Oga beat up, they fell down with only one hit

Nice chapter, though once the 4 Kirllin brothers are gone, Kanzaki&co will probably (still) go after Furuichi
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Old 2012-10-02, 10:56   Link #3532
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Nice to see that furuichis wish of someone to stand beside O'Hara came true
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Old 2012-10-02, 11:03   Link #3533
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I think Furuichi Arc was the best arc so far for Beelzebub....Furuichi was awesome especially when he was contracted with stronger demon like Agiel , Jabberwock and Behemoth.
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Old 2012-10-02, 13:54   Link #3534
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Weak but still a damn determinator.

You know the kind that gets hit yeat manages to scary the hell out of his enemies because no matter what you throw at him they'll keep standing up.

If the author keeps working his way up he can pull out determinator levels like this one:
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Accelerator feels a chill down his spine.

Until today, Accelerator thought the most frightening thing about Level 0s is their resourcefulness when facing high-Leveled espers. Charging in head on and then take advantage of the small thing the powerful esper missed and deal the decisive blow there.

That’s the most terrifying.

Yes.

With the resolve that refuses to give up no matter what happens, the enemy that charged towards him right now is the most terrifying existence. The strongest esper of Academy City finally noticed this.

And as proof:

“(That last attack…)”

Accelerator gulped.

“(Even the weakest of those attacks hold destructive power that isn’t possibly something a human body can handle, right?!!)”

Those things didn’t matter.

The source of his terror are not those superfluous theories.

What is most important right now is ‘the most terrifying enemy’ closing in.

At this time, Accelerator remembered something.

Before, in the cargo holding area fighting the SISTERs during the ‘Experiment’, the same kind of clash happened.

Isn’t the most terrifying thing about that teenager being that he never gives up, and stands with his own two feet under circumstances where that cannot possibly happen?

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Old 2012-10-02, 16:35   Link #3535
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Oh Aoi-chan, please smile like that more often~ Beautiful, just beautiful.

So Furuichi was a Determinator Jr. before he grew up, eh. So now we know why Oga even bothers being friends with him. And while everyone huddled around him is kinda cool, nearly all of them want another crack at him so who's gonna protect him from the others? Oga, Hilda, and Aoi?

...for some reason, that trio alone would make more than a few of them back off til another day... lol
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Old 2012-10-02, 16:45   Link #3536
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That ended with less comedy then I expected, the Red Tails were willing to help defend Furuichi and thanks to the those guys from Teimo Kanzaki, Himekawa, Miki and Toujou were momentarily distracted from getting revenge. That's probably about as good an ending as he's likely to get even though he is still probably going to get beaten up later and is still thought of as a creep and pedophile.
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Old 2012-10-02, 16:49   Link #3537
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Oh Aoi-chan, please smile like that more often~ Beautiful, just beautiful.

So Furuichi was a Determinator Jr. before he grew up, eh. So now we know why Oga even bothers being friends with him. And while everyone huddled around him is kinda cool, nearly all of them want another crack at him so who's gonna protect him from the others? Oga, Hilda, and Aoi?

...for some reason, that trio alone would make more than a few of them back off til another day... lol
I think just Oga by his side will be enough to get most of them to back off...apart from Toujou who would wanna fight Oga then lol
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Old 2012-10-02, 17:22   Link #3538
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Weak but still a damn determinator.

You know the kind that gets hit yeat manages to scary the hell out of his enemies because no matter what you throw at him they'll keep standing up.

If the author keeps working his way up he can pull out determinator levels like this one:
To be honest, I don't think he has that kind of determination
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Old 2012-10-02, 21:31   Link #3539
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Furuichi had heart, one of the biggest strengths there is. Though yeah, more than likely he will have to run and jump in Alaindelone for quite some time.
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Old 2012-10-02, 21:46   Link #3540
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Furuichi is like ma-ti, from captain planet. -_-
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