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lightbringer · 2008-06-30, 01:53

Millay's picture is grayed out. I guess we won't be seeing her again, although after yesterday that isn't too surprising. I find the new color coding a bit confusing (except for Jeremiah's background color

). The brothers thing is a major upset for all of us who have been pushing the "not real brothers" theory, if it's true.

Kang Seung Jae · 2008-06-30, 01:54

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Originally Posted by yezhanquan

Someone who could read the writers' minds?

Well, supposingly, we have all of OoBK except for Karen "betraying" Lelouch for the liberation of Japan, a nuke exploding in Tokyo (because Nina thought it was just a 'stronger' bomb), and C.C. becoming an ordinary girl with no memory.

I'll be back when I get things in order.

DarkLordOfkichiku · 2008-06-30, 01:54

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Originally Posted by yezhanquan

Well, that was expected. Or did someone seriously buy into the "She'll join LL" speculation?

Well, I did not, that's for sure.

yezhanquan · 2008-06-30, 01:55

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Originally Posted by DarkLordOfkichiku

Well, I did not, that's for sure.

That makes two of us. I might change my mind if Cornelia meets Nunnally. That girl has a way of charming people without them knowing it.

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Originally Posted by Kang Seung Jae

Well, supposingly, we have all of OoBK except for Karen "betraying" Lelouch for the liberation of Japan, a nuke exploding in Tokyo (because Nina thought it was just a 'stronger' bomb), and C.C. becoming an ordinary girl with no memory.

I'll be back when I get things in order.

Can I add the "Mind Screw" trope to R2?

lightbringer · 2008-06-30, 01:56

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Originally Posted by Kang Seung Jae

Well, supposingly, we have all of OoBK except for Karen "betraying" Lelouch for the liberation of Japan, a nuke exploding in Tokyo (because Nina thought it was just a 'stronger' bomb), and C.C. becoming an ordinary girl with no memory.

I'll be back when I get things in order.

Only the last one sounds remotely likely, but I'll keep an open mind until the end.

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Originally Posted by DarkLordOfkichiku

Well, I did not, that's for sure.

I never thought Cornelia would join Lelouch, but surprisingly after yesterday I think there's more of a chance for that to happen. Bartley must realize that the one who can oppose the Emperor's plan is Zero.

Pan chan · 2008-06-30, 02:03

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Originally Posted by Kang Seung Jae

Well, supposingly, we have all of OoBK except for Karen "betraying" Lelouch for the liberation of Japan, a nuke exploding in Tokyo (because Nina thought it was just a 'stronger' bomb), and C.C. becoming an ordinary girl with no memory.

I'll be back when I get things in order.

I hope it's not true, Lelouch have enough problems, he can't loose the OoBK and C.C wise side, or I don't see how he will win over Britannia this season.

*Don't want another season

*

thespringmoon · 2008-06-30, 02:09

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Originally Posted by Kang Seung Jae

Well, supposingly, we have all of OoBK except for Karen "betraying" Lelouch for the liberation of Japan, a nuke exploding in Tokyo (because Nina thought it was just a 'stronger' bomb), and C.C. becoming an ordinary girl with no memory.

I'll be back when I get things in order.

ugh. and I suppose the writer's will have Lelouch kiss C.C. to bring back her memory. what. ev. er. <.<

Kusaja · 2008-06-30, 02:30

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Originally Posted by Kang Seung Jae

Well, supposingly, we have all of OoBK except for Karen "betraying" Lelouch for the liberation of Japan, a nuke exploding in Tokyo (because Nina thought it was just a 'stronger' bomb), and C.C. becoming an ordinary girl with no memory.

I'll be back when I get things in order.

Interesting, albeit also questionable...

Maybe it's just me, or not, but I'm noticing a bit of a trend...some of these past speculations/rumors Kang's been kindly providing are turning out to be 90-100% true, some of them probably just because they are easy guesses or coincidences but others are frighteningly accurate, while others stay at 0% all the way through.

Since we don't know how that really works...in the end, it seems there's no clear way to tell which is which until more information comes out, from other sources, or each episode airs.

Just a random guess, but this particular group doesn't really seem that likely...even compared to some of the previous ones, which turned out to be correct.

Kang Seung Jae · 2008-06-30, 02:40

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Originally Posted by Kusaja

Just a random guess, but this particular group doesn't really seem that likely...even compared to some of the previous ones, which turned out to be correct.

Well, I've only taken pieces fron the entire post, which if taken as a whole, makes LOGICAL sense although it still doesn't make sense in a writer's point of view.

yezhanquan · 2008-06-30, 02:42

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Originally Posted by Kang Seung Jae

Well, I've only taken pieces fron the entire post, which if taken as a whole, makes LOGICAL sense although it still doesn't make sense in a writer's point of view.

I'm beginning to believe that Sunrise will pull a Mind Screw on us.

bladeofdarkness · 2008-06-30, 02:44

just as long as the Mind Screw is not a half year wait between pe 23 and the final

Kaioshin Sama · 2008-06-30, 02:45

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Originally Posted by yezhanquan

I'm beginning to believe that Sunrise will pull a Mind Screw on us.

What is a mind screw?

yezhanquan · 2008-06-30, 02:46

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MindScrew

Kusaja · 2008-06-30, 02:53

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Originally Posted by Kang Seung Jae

Well, I've only taken pieces fron the entire post, which if taken as a whole, makes LOGICAL sense although it still doesn't make sense in a writer's point of view.

I guess, that's a better way to put it then, since we do not know what the writers really intend to do.

It's not like those ideas, while difficult to swallow, are impossible to imagine, but the writing staff would really need to provide some good explanations for them to work out just right, if they happen to be true.

Biskoff · 2008-06-30, 03:10

Hey everybody, first time poster here. While this is a little off topic from the current discussion, it's been on my mind for a little while, and this last episode just convinced me further.

First of all, is anybody else noticing a discrepancy about the Emperor's plans. Supposedly he's making some crazy plan that will destroy the world (according to Bartley) but then he also said that war is wasteful and foolish. Also, he could have done a lot of things differently to end the threat of Lelouch permanently, but he hasn't.

He could have told Nunally about Lelouch being Zero, and probably alienate her from him.

Also, instead of killing Lelouch during the mind-wipe incident he let Lelouch go. From a strategic view, that was foolish. He could have ended the threat but instead chose a route that could have let him capture C.C. but would probably fail (as it did).

The next thing is that he hasn't told anyone, not the Knights of Rounds or even his children, just who Zero is and the threat he possesses with Geass.

Now there was also a part (in R2 episode 6 or 7) where C.C. said that V.V. was the Emperor's first ally. In parallel, C.C. was Lelouch's first ally.

Then theres the thing about Lelouch having several potential romances. And let's be honest here, all of them care for Lelouch on some level or another. There's C.C., Kallen, Kaguya, Shirley, and Milly. All of them want some kind of romance with Lelouch, or in Kaguya's case with Zero. That's quite a few potential wives there. Add in the fact that the Emperor has more than a few wives of his own...

Finally, in some interview or magazine article, there was a thing about Lelouch getting the curls/rolls hairstyle like his father.

So I think it's a possibility that Charles, considering how "emotionally distant" he is with his children, would pit them against Lelouch to test him. I really am starting to think that this is all some sick test for Lelouch and at the end Charles is gonna make Lelouch the new Emperor of Brittania. I really wouldn't put it past that guy.

Kaioshin Sama · 2008-06-30, 03:11

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Originally Posted by yezhanquan

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MindScrew

I don't remember the show having anything like that. Sunrise is big on those sorts of things, but that's more like something we would see in The Big O, The Ideon: Be Invoked, Betterman, Brain Powerd and to some extent iDOLM@STER Xenoglossia.

DarkLordOfkichiku · 2008-06-30, 03:12

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Originally Posted by Kang Seung Jae

Well, supposingly, we have all of OoBK except for Karen "betraying" Lelouch for the liberation of Japan, a nuke exploding in Tokyo (because Nina thought it was just a 'stronger' bomb), and C.C. becoming an ordinary girl with no memory.

Hmm. As for the first, I suppose I could sort of see that happening - if they (Britannia) plan to invade the CF, it could be troublesome considering that Zero and the OotBK are there - so they - perhaps Schneizel - makes an offer to the OotBK: Britannia will vacate Japan, leaving it into their hands as an independent country but in return, they'll have to abandon Zero and the war in China. Now, this scenario seems unlikely because why would they trust Schneizel? Unless he vacates Japan beforehand (much to the dismay of many Britannians, I imagine) to show his good will, it seems rather unlikely that they'd accept so easily...

As for the second - well, something bad is bound to happen with Nina and her bomb, so...

That bit about C.C. also seems sort of unlikely.. but who knows? A fresh start for her when it's all over, hmm...?

Isegrim · 2008-06-30, 03:14

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Originally Posted by Tokkan

Update to the official website.

Character Chart has been entirely revamped and says that Charles and V.V. are twin brothers.

Cornelia, Carline and Guinevere have been added.

For the lazy guys

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Spoiler for click:

Most interesting fact (to me): Kallen's "captured"-tag was removed.

yezhanquan · 2008-06-30, 03:17

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Originally Posted by Kaioshin Sama

I don't remember the show having anything like that. Sunrise is big on those sorts of things, but that's more like something we would see in The Big O, The Ideon: Be Invoked, Betterman, Brain Powerd and to some extent iDOLM@STER Xenoglossia.

A light version of the trope. Anyway...

Nina and her bomb: If she doesn't blow herself up along the way, it will be so unfair.

Kang Seung Jae · 2008-06-30, 03:29

Here is the editted version of the speculations. Be warned that these aren't mine.

Spoiler for Here we go:

2008-06-30, 02:44	Link #1571
bladeofdarkness Um-Shmum Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: at GNR, bringing you the truth, no matter how bad it hurts Age: 39	just as long as the Mind Screw is not a half year wait between pe 23 and the final __________________

2008-06-30, 02:46	Link #1573
yezhanquan Observer/Bookman wannabe Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Singapore Age: 38	http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MindScrew __________________

2008-06-30, 03:29	Link #1580
Kang Seung Jae 神聖カルル帝国の皇帝 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Korea Age: 37	Here is the editted version of the speculations. Be warned that these aren't mine. Spoiler for Here we go: Lelouch, who tries to return to humanity from his path as a warlock, loses his precious things because of it. 1. "Lover": Shirely 2. Partner: C.C. 3. Sister: Nunnally 4. "Rag": Rolo 5. Believer: Diethard 6. Organization: OoBK 7. Friend: Suzaku 8. Identity: Zero Cornelia is captured at the Geass Cult by lelouch, but escapes to Schneizel. Union of Nations is made up of Chinese Federation and leftover of EU. Suzaku gets to know that Lelouch got his memories back. He confrontws Lelouch, and when Lelocuh confesses that he is the reborn Zero, Schneizel, who had someone follow Suzaku, sends in forces to arrest Lelouch. The talk between Lelouch and Suzaku is released, and the OoBK feels betrayed by Lelouch's confession of his Geass powers. Believing Suzaku had tricked him, Lelouch decides to go the path of the warlock. Nina had put her nuke on Lancelot, thinking it as a "stronger" bomb. When Suzaku uses it during his fight with Lelouch, Tokyo gets blown up. Nunnally's survival is unknown. Charles activates the Geass Ruins to bring forth Ragnok. Karen, who had escaped, nearly joins the other OoBK. However, a sentence from Lelouch makes her believe in him again. Rolo's Geass has a big weakness: It puts a strain on his heart. Rolo, trying to save Lelouch, uses his Geass too much and dies. Schneizel, who had been collecting info on the Geass, plots against Charles. C.C. loses her memories and becomes a normal girl (effect of Charles' doing?)

2008-06-30, 01:53	Link #1561
lightbringer M9000 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SBC Gurokken	Millay's picture is grayed out. I guess we won't be seeing her again, although after yesterday that isn't too surprising. I find the new color coding a bit confusing (except for Jeremiah's background color ). The brothers thing is a major upset for all of us who have been pushing the "not real brothers" theory, if it's true.

2008-06-30, 03:10	Link #1575
Biskoff Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008	Hey everybody, first time poster here. While this is a little off topic from the current discussion, it's been on my mind for a little while, and this last episode just convinced me further. First of all, is anybody else noticing a discrepancy about the Emperor's plans. Supposedly he's making some crazy plan that will destroy the world (according to Bartley) but then he also said that war is wasteful and foolish. Also, he could have done a lot of things differently to end the threat of Lelouch permanently, but he hasn't. He could have told Nunally about Lelouch being Zero, and probably alienate her from him. Also, instead of killing Lelouch during the mind-wipe incident he let Lelouch go. From a strategic view, that was foolish. He could have ended the threat but instead chose a route that could have let him capture C.C. but would probably fail (as it did). The next thing is that he hasn't told anyone, not the Knights of Rounds or even his children, just who Zero is and the threat he possesses with Geass. Now there was also a part (in R2 episode 6 or 7) where C.C. said that V.V. was the Emperor's first ally. In parallel, C.C. was Lelouch's first ally. Then theres the thing about Lelouch having several potential romances. And let's be honest here, all of them care for Lelouch on some level or another. There's C.C., Kallen, Kaguya, Shirley, and Milly. All of them want some kind of romance with Lelouch, or in Kaguya's case with Zero. That's quite a few potential wives there. Add in the fact that the Emperor has more than a few wives of his own... Finally, in some interview or magazine article, there was a thing about Lelouch getting the curls/rolls hairstyle like his father. So I think it's a possibility that Charles, considering how "emotionally distant" he is with his children, would pit them against Lelouch to test him. I really am starting to think that this is all some sick test for Lelouch and at the end Charles is gonna make Lelouch the new Emperor of Brittania. I really wouldn't put it past that guy.