Madoka Magica - General Discussion

[Solace]

He said as much a while back, but his reputation made it hard to believe:

Gen talking about the end of Madoka.

[roriconfan]

Ok, I edited my initial review with various extras I "borrowed" for other peoples' opinions and now here is the extended version.
http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl...069&attid=7858

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Solace

He said as much a while back, but his reputation made it hard to believe:

Gen talking about the end of Madoka.

It's funny, when Gen originally said that he wanted to tell a heartwarming story, almost everybody thought it was a total troll.

Well, looks like the real troll was that he wasn't trolling.

[Shadow5YA]

More like people trolled thmselves. It wasn't Urobuchi's intention to anger anyone.

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

More like people trolled thmselves. It wasn't Urobuchi's intention to anger anyone.

I know. I was only joking.

[bhl88]

Thermodynamics explained Madoka Style

Madoka style population dynamics

[Yui Is My Wife]

Okay, QB may not have had the emotions to care, but he would surely have the free will (and most definitely the intelligence) to realize that:

1) The wish Madoka gave would throw a HUGE wrench into the way his "company" is ran.

2) He could always just say "no, I refuse to grant you that wish."

He's most certainly not a Genie bound by any Cosmic Geass to obey what he and his entire reace perceives as mere puppets and an inferior race. And until the wish is uttered he was most defintely her superior in temporal power.

So why the heck couldn't he just have said "No, Missy, I'm not giving you your wish" as opposed to say "Oh crap, there goes my job... Sigh your wish is granted"

[Riga92]

^ Well Kyubey did say he is bound by certain rules when making a contract, and although he's never said it, it seems one of the rules is when the contract is made, he cannot refuse it, no matter what the wish is.

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Yui Is My Wife

Okay, QB may not have had the emotions to care, but he would surely have the free will (and most definitely the intelligence) to realize that:

1) The wish Madoka gave would throw a HUGE wrench into the way his "company" is ran.

2) He could always just say "no, I refuse to grant you that wish."

He's most certainly not a Genie bound by any Cosmic Geass to obey what he and his entire reace perceives as mere puppets and an inferior race.

So why the heck couldn't he just have said "No, Missy, I'm not giving you your wish" as opposed to say "Oh crap, there goes my job... Sigh your wish is granted"

Well, no offense, but you're simply wrong on Point 2.

It's patently obvious that once a contract is made, and a wish is given, Kyubey *has* to honor the wish. The only possibly exception I can see is maybe he gets a basic self-defense exception if someone wishes him and/or his race out of existence.

If Kyubey has the option to refuse a wish once a contract is made, then he should have refused Madoka's wish for obvious reasons. But he didn't, so the only logical deduction that can be made from this, imo, is that he simply does not retain that option once a contract is made.

[roriconfan]

^ Because he IS a genie.

[Kotohono]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

It's patently obvious that once a contract is made, and a wish is given, Kyubey *has* to honor the wish. The only possibly exception I can see is maybe he gets a basic self-defense exception if someone wishes him and/or his race out of existence.

It's true he does *have to* honor the wish, but that's doesn't mean it will be granted as for example had anyone aside from Madoka, or someone similar potential as a magical girl tried to make the wish Madoka made then it would have failed be granted, which is the other limit placed on Kyubey the power of the wish is somewhat limited by the girl's potential.

[roriconfan]

^ That is only a speculation. We saw no limitation on-screen.

[MartianMage]

Episode 12.

QB: "You're shouldering the destinies of countless worlds, and you're the focal point of all the fate lines. No matter how impossible your wish is, it could probably be fulfilled."

[RadiantBeam]

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

More like people trolled thmselves. It wasn't Urobuchi's intention to anger anyone.

You know he's the ultimate troll when he can troll people without even intending to.

[sa547]

Man, LOL this piece cracked me up:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/inte...im-not-worried

Nice sign the show has probably crossed over to the mainstream.

[mechdra]

How powerful is Madoka's wish anyway?

From what I can see, if it really apply to all time and space, the anime industry need to change where a huge number of anime need to be reanimated. LOL
For example, Code Geass without geass and CC. The whole event in Unimeko will not happen in such a way. Touhou without Kirisame Marisa. Soul Eater will lost half of it story. Strike Witches will be Strike Magical Girls and more.

[Riga92]

I found this interesting article on Sankaku Complex about the delay of ep.11/12. Turns out it was self-censorship after all.

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2011/0...was-cancelled/

Images look very legit.

And Homura's crushed foot

[brocko]

Maybe they'll be able to find their way into the "uncut" disc releases later on =/

Homura's crushed food looks damn painful ><

[applejuice]

I will let everyone know. In 2ch, there was storm going on due to the fact that synopsis of spin-off comics - Mahou Shoujo Oriko Magica is revealed. It has big chance that it deals with the world after Madoka's rule reset.

http://animapple.blogspot.com/2011/0...-finished.html

I will just copy the parts that I translated from the synopsis.

From the big-hit original animation series, "Mahou Shoujo Madoka☆Magica', new spin-off comics will be published with whole new writing/story! Sakura Kyouko, who spends the day for noble battle, Tomoe Mami who protects Mitakiharashi city with the heart of justice, Akemi Homura, who silently reaches Kaname Madoka bit by bit. The battles of each mahou shoujo hat should never cross each other, is recreated as one story centering the incident of...

"MAHOU SHOUJO HUNTING"

This is, the incident that changes the entire destiny of shoujos..
This is, the start of new mahou shoujo story...

... this is must buy. Urobuchi trolling hasn't ended. Only problem is whether Madoka actually is alive or not...

[roriconfan]

Here come the endless spin-oofs, excused in same way as those of NGE were.