Shiro no Koukoku Monogatari (Legend of the White Kingdom)

[Direwolf18]

I'm really hoping Glorie joins the Inner Palace.

And yea in the manga it seemed like Aria wanted to study more and be useful as a political/economical advisor to her King as well as his woman. She must know she can't serve him on the field of battle, at least not like a frigging dragon princess. If she can establish herself in the council chamber that will have much more long term value then the ability to incinerate a cavalry platoon.

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by Direwolf18

I'm really hoping Glorie joins the Inner Palace.

And yea in the manga it seemed like Aria wanted to study more and be useful as a political/economical advisor to her King as well as his woman. She must know she can't serve him on the field of battle, at least not like a frigging dragon princess. If she can establish herself in the council chamber that will have much more long term value then the ability to incinerate a cavalry platoon.

Spoiler for Glorie:

Not happening....at least for a long time.She's hardly heard of afterwards.Her demi-human niece joins instead.There is speculation that the MC might end up as emperor because Glorie's niece actually has a superior claim to the throne in comparison to Glorie for example because her father is the eldest son to the emperor.

[bakato]

Originally Posted by Moe Connection

Spoiler for Glorie:

Not happening....at least for a long time.She's hardly heard of afterwards.Her demi-human niece joins instead.There is speculation that the MC might end up as emperor because Glorie's niece actually has a superior claim to the throne in comparison to Glorie for example because her father is the eldest son to the emperor.

That doesn't seem possible considering our guy is the king of the country the empire wants to destroy. An enemy leader can't just marry his way into the throne of a country that hates his guts.

[Direwolf18]

Originally Posted by bakato

That doesn't seem possible considering our guy is the king of the country the empire wants to destroy. An enemy leader can't just marry his way into the throne of a country that hates his guts.

Well yea, there is a number of historical examples starting with Alexander the great. There is a reason he and his top generals took Persian brides. It can get thrown into the peace process to make it slightly more palpable for the defeated foe. It's actually been a pretty standard tactic for monarchies. Think of queen Victoria, or Austrian empress Maria. They were EXPERTS of marrying off their kids and in the process gaining claims to the throne. How do you think great Britain has a ruling family that is from frigging Germany (Hanover in particular). Up until ww1 when they changed the name it was called the house of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha.

Ever hear of the 100 year war? England had some kinda legitimate claims to the French crown over this sorta thing.

[Amanomurakumo]

When I read the manga the first time, I actually thought Aria would turn out to be an assassin, because she was introduced almost immediately after Lectival was told to watch out for assassins, but it seems like nothing actually came of that, since no assassination attempts seem to have taken place since then, unless you count that soldier from Glorie's camp.

[bakato]

Originally Posted by Direwolf18

Well yea, there is a number of historical examples starting with Alexander the great. There is a reason he and his top generals took Persian brides. It can get thrown into the peace process to make it slightly more palpable for the defeated foe. It's actually been a pretty standard tactic for monarchies. Think of queen Victoria, or Austrian empress Maria. They were EXPERTS of marrying off their kids and in the process gaining claims to the throne. How do you think great Britain has a ruling family that is from frigging Germany (Hanover in particular). Up until ww1 when they changed the name it was called the house of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha.

Ever hear of the 100 year war? England had some kinda legitimate claims to the French crown over this sorta thing.

But this is different. The countries in question are already at war with each other and the empire wants to take the kingdom and its warm, bountiful resources. All of its citizens hate non-human species and the kingdom. I doubt they'd take kindly to the white king just marrying his way to their throne.

[Amanomurakumo]

Originally Posted by bakato

But this is different. The countries in question are already at war with each other and the empire wants to take the kingdom and its warm, bountiful resources. All of its citizens hate non-human species and the kingdom. I doubt they'd take kindly to the white king just marrying his way to their throne.

They would if they got benefits from his rule, like better resources, after all, it is really the rulers using human supremacist dogma to maintain control of the populace by diverting resentment away from their own inadequacies and towards the other country.

If Lectival could provide the common people with food and fuel for heating, I'm pretty sure they would not care where it came from.

Sure, he would probably have to kill or otherwise defang all the nobles and existing powers in the Empire first and remove opposition.

[Direwolf18]

Originally Posted by bakato

But this is different. The countries in question are already at war with each other and the empire wants to take the kingdom and its warm, bountiful resources. All of its citizens hate non-human species and the kingdom. I doubt they'd take kindly to the white king just marrying his way to their throne.

Compared to Napolean after he maried Marie Louise the daughter of Austraian Emperor Francis II after he whooped their asses... God how many times? These weren't love taps either, Napolean crushed the Austrian army repeatedly. hundred of thousands of Austrians died. History is a really interesting thing.

There is a difference between marying a daughter off and giving the daughters husband the throne. Although if the empire is completely crushed and becomes a subsidiary under the kingdom (usualt works in reverse) it becomes a lot more realistic that he could claim the throne. Or his kid with the princess could at least. Their throne is hereditary.

[bakato]

Originally Posted by Amanomurakumo

They would if they got benefits from his rule, like better resources, after all, it is really the rulers using human supremacist dogma to maintain control of the populace by diverting resentment away from their own inadequacies and towards the other country.

If Lectival could provide the common people with food and fuel for heating, I'm pretty sure they would not care where it came from.

Sure, he would probably have to kill or otherwise defang all the nobles and existing powers in the Empire first and remove opposition.

I don't know. We seem to disagree on their priorities. The beliefs of people, especially those regarding supremacy of a single race, are not easily forgotten, at least that's what I believe.

Originally Posted by Direwolf18

Compared to Napolean after he maried Marie Louise the daughter of Austraian Emperor Francis II after he whooped their asses... God how many times? These weren't love taps either, Napolean crushed the Austrian army repeatedly. hundred of thousands of Austrians died. History is a really interesting thing.

There is a difference between marying a daughter off and giving the daughters husband the throne. Although if the empire is completely crushed and becomes a subsidiary under the kingdom (usualt works in reverse) it becomes a lot more realistic that he could claim the throne. Or his kid with the princess could at least. Their throne is hereditary.

Ah ha. But that would mean that he isn't just marrying his way to the throne. He would have to crush and beat them into submission first. Marrying his way to their throne would just be a formality then. Fact of the matter is it isn't possible without beating them.

[Direwolf18]

Originally Posted by bakato

Ah ha. But that would mean that he isn't just marrying his way to the throne. He would have to crush and beat them into submission first. Marrying his way to their throne would just be a formality then. Fact of the matter is it isn't possible without beating them.

Sorry I thought that was a given considering the whooping he is going to be giving them in the next few chapters. Which i'm still disappointed Glorie just disappears. How do you have such a great character and then write themouf of the story. At least she isn't killed.

[Amanomurakumo]

Originally Posted by Direwolf18

Sorry I thought that was a given considering the whooping he is going to be giving them in the next few chapters. Which i'm still disappointed Glorie just disappears. How do you have such a great character and then write themouf of the story. At least she isn't killed.

Normally a general wouldn't stick around after a defeat.
She'll surely return to the plot when the Empire mounts a new assault on the Kingdom, or Lectival goes to the Empire.

[Direwolf18]

Ah but apparently another 1-2 Imperial Princess DO make an appearance. Just not the one I am growing attached to.

[bakato]

Originally Posted by Direwolf18

Sorry I thought that was a given considering the whooping he is going to be giving them in the next few chapters. Which i'm still disappointed Glorie just disappears. How do you have such a great character and then write themouf of the story. At least she isn't killed.

Well, the previous spoiler made it sound like that was all there was to it.

Originally Posted by Direwolf18

Ah but apparently another 1-2 Imperial Princess DO make an appearance. Just not the one I am growing attached to.

If they don't have a chest like Glorie, they're not going to grow on me either.

[maniac88]

For those who still wondering about Aria

Spoiler for Aria:

"Your highness, I was really pleased when your highness says that he need me "

"...Aria"

Raising his face, Aria's smiling face could be seen directed towards Lectival.

At that moment, Lectival finally realize. Her smile, it was different from the fake smile she show him before.

"His royal highness was towards myself, becama a flower that only belongs to me, become a flower that blooms in my garden, hearing all that, I was very happy. A flower that only belong to one person. To what extent this lascious vision can be I, myself doesn't know"

That was an easy to understand way of life.

A feeling's that only belong to one person, devoted only to one person, accepting everything, all of it because the partner wish for it.

However, that was after all, no more than an appearance viewed from others.

"About the thing's that I want to do from now on, I want to continue being his highness flower. Being withered if there's no longer a person who take care of it, together just like a flower. No matter what the other people might say, I am satisfied with it."

"....... What are you gonna do about your life? What about about your only wish?"

"If, your highness kindly continue calling me "Aria" as a name of a flower that you adore, that will be the proof of me living, That's more than enough reason for me to keep living. Someday giving birth to his highness child, when it comes to that, it will also become my reason to keep living. Besides, to begin with becoming a woman that was needed by his highness, it was an honor."

There was no shadow in Aria's smile.

Even nothing more than a flower that continue to bloom in some built-in garden, even so perceiving that one thing and turn it into one big happiness, her smiling face says it all.

[bakato]

Originally Posted by maniac88

For those who still wondering about Aria

Spoiler for aria:

"Your highness, I was really pleased when your highness says that he need me "

"...Aria"

Raising his face, Aria's smiling face could be seen directed towards Lectival.

"His royal highness was towards myself, becama a flower that only belongs to me, become a flower that blooms in my garden, hearing all that, I was very happy. A flower that only belong to one person. To what extent this lascious vision can be I, myself doesn't know"

That was an easy to understand way of life.

A feeling's that only belong to one person, devoted only to one person, accepting everything, all of it because the partner wish for it.

However, that was after all, no more than an appearance viewed from others.

"About the thing's that I want to do from now on, I want to continue being his highness flower. Being withered if there's no longer a person who take care of it, together just like a flower. No matter what the other people might say, I am satisfied with it."

"....... What are you gonna do about your life? What about about your only wish?"

"If, your highness kindly continue calling me "Aria" as a name of a flower that you adore, that will be the proof of me living, That's more than enough reason for me to keep living. Someday giving birth to his highness child, when it comes to that, it will also become my reason to keep living. Besides, to begin with becoming a woman that was needed by his highness, it was an honor."

There was no shadow in Aria's smile.

Even nothing more than a flower that continue to bloom in some built-in garden, even so perceiving that one thing and turn it into one big happiness, her smiling face says it all.

Thank you! I was wondering whether she actually liked him or not.

[maniac88]

btw, those event happen after the struggle with the north... iirc, there's 5 girl's occupying the bed,
and before Lectival dropping the bomb that the empire sending a princess to be wed to him making all the girls present furious.

[Mechatrill]

Huh... 5 you say...

Let's see we've already got Meriela and Lilicia.

Are we counting Aria? Or Vilia (LN had a blurb earlier on that makes it seem likely)?

For people who joins post current place in the manga:

Spoiler:

Riede (the north strategist girl) also joins the harem in V5 (to the consternation of Meriela once she smells Riede's scent on Lect)

The Red Dragon twins perhaps? The younger, Fariel, is rather Tsundere, but she might end up being easier to conquer than the older twin Feriel, who is currently going along with the engagement...

Or are we going to see the other 2 dragon princesses?

[maniac88]

Originally Posted by Mechatrill

Huh... 5 you say...

Let's see we've already got Meriela and Lilicia.

Are we counting Aria? Or Vilia (LN had a blurb earlier on that makes it seem likely)?

For people who joins post current place in the manga:

Spoiler:

Riede (the north strategist girl) also joins the harem in V5 (to the consternation of Meriela once she smells Riede's scent on Lect)

The Red Dragon twins perhaps? The younger, Fariel, is rather Tsundere, but she might end up being easier to conquer than the older twin Feriel, who is currently going along with the engagement...

Or are we going to see the other 2 dragon princesses?

Ah sorry,, it's seven actually..

Spoiler for :

1. Mireila (white dragon duke daughter)
2. Lilicia (the priestess)
3. Fariel (red dragon twin, the doctor in chapter 15)
4. Feriel (red dragon twin, the doctor in chapter 15)
5. Aria (royal concubine)
6. Riede (glasses girl in manga recent chapter, the north stronghold officer)
7. Mireidia (the archbishop oneesan)

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by maniac88

Ah sorry,, it's seven actually..

Spoiler for :

1. Mireila (white dragon duke daughter)
2. Lilicia (the priestess)
3. Fariel (red dragon twin, the doctor in chapter 15)
4. Feriel (red dragon twin, the doctor in chapter 15)
5. Aria (royal concubine)
6. Riede (glasses girl in manga recent chapter, the north stronghold officer)
7. Mireidia (the archbishop oneesan)

Actually,from my sources

Spoiler for spoilers from other websites,may not be accurate:

He's got around twenty people in his harem. IIRC,there was also a spoiler about the ghost of one of Lectival's female predecessors somehow also joined the harem???

By the way,here is a map of the kingdom.

Spoiler for map:

Spoiler for illustration of the cast:

[maniac88]

Originally Posted by Moe Connection

Actually,from my sources

Spoiler for spoilers from other websites,may not be accurate:

More than twenty people.

I was talking about that particular event (the one which I translate, there's only 7 at the moment).

Hell, maybe it will comes to that. Not long after the struggle with the north, you know the north will send 1 princess (glorie's niece, the first prince daughter), other country that boast the greatest naval fleet also sending 1 princess, not to mention.. Vilia also might Join the inner palace.