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Old 2017-10-12, 07:10   Link #521
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The side-tunnel thing is revealed in Chapter 2 of the manga, where we see GS showing Priestess exactly where her previous party screwed up.

A steel helmet being less than leather armor makes sense when you consider the helmet is covering a relatively small (if vital) area while the armor is covering your entire torso.

A ranger wouldn't have done anything once they were deep enough inside that they could get ambushed by both sides or the Hobgoblin or Goblin Shaman. The moment they went inside, they were screwed whether they were careful or not. It's even pointed out later on that you're not supposed to go into the Goblin's Cave if you can help it, you lure them out or destroy it.

Humans in this series as a whole lack night-vision whereas the other races do have it. Lanterns you can put on your belt do exist, but the newbies were flat-broke by the time they went into the cave. Besides, Torches make for great improvised weapons as GS demonstrates.
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Old 2017-10-12, 08:02   Link #522
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A steel helmet being less than leather armor makes sense when you consider the helmet is covering a relatively small (if vital) area while the armor is covering your entire torso.
Another guy who does not realize the real steel armors value in a pre industrial setting. Objectively is very more laborious to create GS helmet with that design than the leather armor and the material costs a lot more. There is nothing plausible in this...



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It's even pointed out later on that you're not supposed to go into the Goblin's Cave if you can help it, you lure them out or destroy it.
This logic makes sense for GS who was working alone but with a well prepared and experienced party is not impossible. The task of the ranger is to find traps or "understand" the enemy position and type.
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Old 2017-10-12, 08:20   Link #523
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I had an entire respond write out, but then I thought about it and apply my father's old comment: If it's shit, do you step on it or do you ignore it?

Think whatever you want - I won't lose a single sleep so why bother really - but here's a words of advice to you francescoCG1: Drop the condescending attitude.

Anywho, they're moving to Water Town arc next. Hope the manga actually shows the scar lines on Sword Maiden's body since the illust in the LN is either hard to see or not there.
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Old 2017-10-12, 08:58   Link #524
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In summer Neanderthal built shelters and whenever possible in the winter they went to the caves. Shelters were constructed in leather with stone or bones base. So you obviously sleep through your history lessons
it seem the one who sleep is you, Neanderthal live in ice age, and while it's true that the main reason why they live in caves is cold, they spend most of their time in caves, the shelter you are talking about is born in late era of Neanderthal where clothing was developed to combat the cold and tool for hunt, and especially, number enough to keep themselves safe, early Neanderthal or Homo erectus, however, don't have such luxury, a tribe of early days can be very small, from 10-20 persons a tribe, the tool aren't near as good, and they are very exact definition of prey, most predator are stronger than them, now view in our case with goblin, we are talking about a small group, not a big horde, a big horde would obviously live in fortress or ruin as shown in the manga, but for small group without such resources, living in the plain is asking themselves to be killed, human occupy most plains, so their choice is in the forest, in the forest, what is the better choice than a cave for a small group who don't have the power to go against a village, and when the horde is big enough, they will assault the village to take for themselves, as shown with the goblin lord
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Old 2017-10-12, 10:01   Link #525
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it seem the one who sleep is you, Neanderthal live in ice age, and while it's true that the main reason why they live in caves is cold, they spend most of their time in caves, the shelter you are talking about is born in late era of Neanderthal where clothing was developed to combat the cold and tool for hunt, and especially, number enough to keep themselves safe, early Neanderthal or Homo erectus, however, don't have such luxury, a tribe of early days can be very small, from 10-20 persons a tribe, the tool aren't near as good, and they are very exact definition of prey, most predator are stronger than them, now view in our case with goblin, we are talking about a small group, not a big horde, a big horde would obviously live in fortress or ruin as shown in the manga, but for small group without such resources, living in the plain is asking themselves to be killed, human occupy most plains, so their choice is in the forest, in the forest, what is the better choice than a cave for a small group who don't have the power to go against a village, and when the horde is big enough, they will assault the village to take for themselves, as shown with the goblin lord
Maybe i was not clear but the original doubt was if there are enough large caves for a "significant" (in sufficient numbers to survive) population.


Remains the facts that the first thing to do is destroy these natural or artificial caves (if they do not serve) to reduce goblins problem. Seen how easily are reached it seems that their location is known.
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Old 2017-10-12, 13:39   Link #526
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Anywho, they're moving to Water Town arc next. Hope the manga actually shows the scar lines on Sword Maiden's body since the illust in the LN is either hard to see or not there.
Of course they are. The Manga doesn't skimp on the visual details after all. We'll probably even get a flashback to how they got there.
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Old 2017-10-12, 14:19   Link #527
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We'll probably even get a flashback to how they got there.
As for GS sister I doubt she will actually be raped on "panels" at most some "hint" just like GS sister. For some characters nudity is limited (no nipples) such as cowgirls. This is a strange thing
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Old 2017-10-12, 14:31   Link #528
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Of course they are. The Manga doesn't skimp on the visual details after all. We'll probably even get a flashback to how they got there.
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