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Old 2017-07-22, 06:46   Link #10861
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I didnt hate Fine that much so its shocking. Guess Valentina's death will be coming in v18 which I don't mind in her case.

Unlike manga spoilers you rarely get fake LN spoilers in 2chan. Tbh I haven't seen any fake spoilers for the LN I read in 2chan thread yet.
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Old 2017-07-22, 06:55   Link #10862
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If Tina does die, who will replace her as the next Void Vanadis? And whoever it is, as it's likely to be a new character, they won't be time to develop her as a harem member for Tigre in just one book. So I hope Tina is redeemed rather than for her to be killed off. Even if she isn't redeemed, like I've said before, she could just stay as Tigre's helper in the shadows. Someone who acts as his darkness and does the cruel but necessary that he can't do himself. For that, she doesn't have to be redeemed or even be able to get along with the rest of the harem, but she just has to fall in love with Tigre and swear fealty to him as her king.

But yeah, I'm also kind of surprised that Fine killed herself. But yeah, this explains why a new Vanadis had to be chosen. She wasn't abandoned, but she actually died instead.
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Old 2017-07-22, 08:42   Link #10863
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So for the battle

Spoiler for v17:
What a waste...
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Old 2017-07-22, 08:58   Link #10864
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So for the battle

Spoiler for v17:

Spoiler for Reaction to above:

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Old 2017-07-22, 09:03   Link #10865
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Fine served her role in the plot, i dont think redemption was ever really on the table.
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Old 2017-07-22, 10:40   Link #10866
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Yeah. But I guess you'd say pretty much the same thing about Tina? I'd disagree, though (look at my post after @n0m@n's on this page (the one of mine I'm talking about is #10862)).
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Old 2017-07-22, 11:47   Link #10867
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Fine served her role in the plot, i dont think redemption was ever really on the table.
.....more like an idiotic choice 'cause the suicide means her dead dream, meaning anything Fine did accomplished nothing.


Speaking on which, whatever happened to Tigre and Ganelon? More important question is whatever goin on to the Goddess's descend? Surely even Tina can't contain the possessed Titta?
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Old 2017-07-22, 14:45   Link #10868
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Yeah. But I guess you'd say pretty much the same thing about Tina? I'd disagree, though (look at my post after @n0m@n's on this page (the one of mine I'm talking about is #10862)).
No i wouldnt. Unlike fine tina has been eluded to be salvagable.

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.....more like an idiotic choice 'cause the suicide means her dead dream, meaning anything Fine did accomplished nothing.


Speaking on which, whatever happened to Tigre and Ganelon? More important question is whatever goin on to the Goddess's descend? Surely even Tina can't contain the possessed Titta?
We already saw how stupid she was for her age when she openly provoked elen only to realize she had no reason to do so. Id say she was a waste but if all this was for the sake of lim getting bargren than im game.
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Old 2017-07-22, 17:25   Link #10869
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No i wouldnt. Unlike fine tina has been eluded to be salvagable.
Not sure if Tina is even beyond saving or otherwise, though the only way that actually saving Tina from falling too far is Tigre's display of her Charged Arrow Shot that surpasses even her own power......

Hang on, my question is still unanswered: Whatever happens to Tigre and Ganelon? And how'd Tir Na Fal's descend even happening?
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Old 2017-07-22, 17:45   Link #10870
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So according to few readers.
Spoiler for v17:

Well, this series is Senki-genre first than anything else. Harem is just a sweet to allure the readers.
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Old 2017-07-22, 18:13   Link #10871
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I really hope Sofy doesn't die. It'd be really bad. And really, it won't feel right if Tigre isn't going to have seven Vanadis in his harem. Though I can already kind of see Saw saying, "I told you so". Which I don't like.
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Old 2017-07-23, 00:08   Link #10872
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I also hopefully Sofy at least she survives from what appears to be Tina's fatal blow. Because, as far as I know about this, this ain't complete the war maiden series without seven war maidens.

Speaking of which....
Spoiler for Response to Lim's Temporary Position as a Vanadis:

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Old 2017-07-23, 01:16   Link #10873
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So for the battle

Spoiler for v17:
Well that was... pointless.

And how does this even serve as a prelude to the final story?
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Old 2017-07-23, 02:17   Link #10874
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Well that was... pointless.

And how does this even serve as a prelude to the final story?
Easy now... at the very least we don't have to worry about Tina's ally now won't we?

My bigger question is the Tir Na Fal's descend and Ganelon's fate...
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Old 2017-07-23, 05:19   Link #10875
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That, and Legnica needs a permanent Vanadis.
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Old 2017-07-23, 06:21   Link #10876
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if sofy goes than tina can go with her. fuck that.
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Old 2017-07-23, 06:25   Link #10877
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Still waiting for my copy, sigh. Not really happy about Sofy development, but well...
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Old 2017-07-23, 08:19   Link #10878
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wel i don't see any way that tina can be switch sides now.
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Old 2017-07-23, 08:22   Link #10879
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Yeah. She'll probably die now. The Zaht and Ezendeis War Maidens need replacements. I wonder if it can be done in just one more Volume? The Vanadis of Bargren also needs a replacement if Lim isn't permanent, though.
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Old 2017-07-23, 09:16   Link #10880
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i dont see the point in making this a temporary thing for lim this late in the game.

there is a bigger problem if sofy does go, tina goes by extension and lim isn't the permanent successor; tigre in all likelihood can't take the throne without the support of all 7 vanadis. if it happens via timeskip it will be cheap and re-emphasizing how rushed this ending is, on top of making fine commit sudoku entirely pointless. and let's not even get into how problematic having someone else succeed the zhcted throne would be after all that build up for tigre. Madan no ou has long been one of my all time favorite LN's but this ending has the potential to be a hamlet-style trainwreck.

also one of the spoilers on 2ch seems to indicate that ganelon destroyed himself while summoning tir na fal, so he might not be the final boss?

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