It's not so much a matter of seeing, but more a matter of hearing. Ever been around a young child who wants something, but he can't have it? Ever heard them open their mouths and wail? yeah, that kinda wail. And she's got it down so good it made me wince.
I kinda scared my latest 'project' into screaming everytime she sees me...
... Which then leads to awkward moments when I bring my friends over...
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I read the Agito declaring Rein her sworn enemy part. Thanks anyway
Everybody saw that coming
(Though I myself had hoped it wouldn't be that obvious )
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Uh-huh. You're going to give Aaron weird ideas again >.>
Working as- I mean, you're right it would just be uncomfortable.
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I'm getting "Vice" vibes from you repeating this all the time
Location: In a place of extremes. From below freezing to above boiling.
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It's not explicitly said, but I have the impression that Zest and Lutecia are modern velka styled and thus incompatible with her
Well, that would explain it. As far as we know, there are only 3 living Old-Belka users: Hayate, Acous and Carim. And I don't think the other two need devices.
Well, that would explain it. As far as we know, there are only 3 living Old-Belka users: Hayate, Acous and Carim. And I don't think the other two need devices.
They probably has their own unison device already or ...she used to be owned by either one but lost her memory when experimented on
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xxx = 002
Wait, if you mean the exact words, then that would be the first time
FlareKnight, you're the only one left that hasn't fallen to the dark temptations of conspiracy theories and death-omen reading...
DON'T LEAVE ME OUT HERE ALONE!
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Haha kind've weird how I have to leave right before that message comes up. Not to worry I'm not one to get drawn into doom and conspiracy theories. Still can't see any important characters getting killed off. Maybe the doctor gets axed, and that general gets a building to collapse on him but nothing more than that.
No need to go and kill Chaos....It'd really put a damper on all the jokes after all.
Seems tough on Agito. Trying to find an ancient Velka that's compatitble with her. At least we're set up for a match of the little people. For some reason I can't stop smiling at that .
Just to point out a logical counter-argument to the notion of Hayate being the 'king' mentioned. She can't be a king because she serves someone else. And the reason that Hayate is IN the position she's in is because she doesn't hold loyalty to normal chains of command. Her commanding officers are Carim and Chrono. And above them she ONLY reports to a member of the Three Legends. If General Wideload tries to make too many waves, he'll find wrath coming down on his head from on high.
1) Nanoha's past will catch up to her and she will be knocked out again
2) Dr Scag will make good of his declaration and capture Fate
3) Hayate will join Kamina and Theresa's tea party in heaven
and this is where team newbie comes in and try to save the day..
For the most part, I'm with you on #2, Key Board. But I guess it would be something like capture Fate to put Nanoha in a situation, maybe leading to #1 prediction? I honestly thought Fate or Elio would be focused in on because of them being "remnants of Project F," Fate being more so important because she's the first (I think)?
Not so sure about Hayate. Maybe it's just because of the kind of vibes this show gives off, but who knows? I think she might get into a really dangerous situation at most, but if it comes down to that, her knights are most likely going with her.
Haha kind've weird how I have to leave right before that message comes up. Not to worry I'm not one to get drawn into doom and conspiracy theories. Still can't see any important characters getting killed off. Maybe the doctor gets axed, and that general gets a building to collapse on him but nothing more than that.
I can see them living through this just because everybody expects them not to
Anybody remember Vesser Three? (Or at the end, Vesser One)
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No need to go and kill Chaos....It'd really put a damper on all the jokes after all.
I would say the same words that I've said to them, but that would be going against my belief so...
I can see them living through this just because everybody expects them not to
Anybody remember Vesser Three? (Or at the end, Vesser One)
Oh man are you telling me that guy actually survived? I never read the rest because I heard one of the characters I liked died. I'm tracking down the author of this one.
Overall I think people have gotten a little too concerned about character death. I just can't see Hayate missing the bullet last season just to be killed off here. She's determined sure but I'm not worried about her dying on us.
I can see Fate or Erio getting captured at some point. Fate may be a higher priority because she's an older part of Project F. Or they may target Erio because he's newer I'd assume and possibly easier to capture.
Shameless self-advertisement that my post has been updated... although I'm not sure if it's useful by now with RAW's out.
Forum were down right when I tried to edit it, and I'm forced to post it in just a small time I had between waking up and going to work, which means I haven't read pages so please forgive me if I interupted some discussion.
Okay... so we learn more about Vivio, that Erio's not ready to be straight w/Caro about his past yet (who would?), and MORE FORESHADOWING
Spoiler for Carim's Revelation:
So far the biggest revelation of not just the ep, but the StrikerS series in general. It goes to the tune of "A King will perish, a Tower will fall, and a Ship will sink." Okay, time to break it down.
A King will Perish: There is a good amount of speculation that this refers to Hayate, and that she is the addressee of the line. However, I find this unlikely. In order to even get close to Hayate, they'd have to, at the very least, go through Rein and all four Wolkenritter, then take on Hayate herself. So, unless they're planning on killing her in one of those ignominious kinds of death, she's relatively safe.
Others, however, are not so well guarded. My guess is that King is reference to the position of the line's subject - someone in a very high position of power. There are at least six people that we can think of in that sort of position: Chrono, Lindy, the Legendary Three Admirals, and Carim herself.
Analysis of "King" likelihood:
Note: My guess as to the purpose of the "King" is to inspire MD6 to action; the death triggers the warpath response - we won't stop fighting until the fight is done. (See TV Tropes Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night to understand my thinking)
Chrono: Possible.
Why Yes: While he has had some screentime within the series, it's not been much considering that this first half as primarily dealt with training the rookies and the bureaucracy of TSAB. And while he IS an admiral, it's made evidently clear in 1st season that he is not as magically powerful as Nanoha or Fate (and therefore Hayate as well), and that means he'd be more likely to die in a straight up slugfest. Plus, he's an Admiral, and while he may not be as influential as the Legendary Three, he still wields considerable power within TSAB. Our ultimate villains (more on that later), if within TSAB, could see him as a potential threat and decide to have him eliminated. The fact that Chrono's now a family man doesn't make him immune; it would make his death more shocking a la FMA's Hughes.
Why No: On the other hand, Chrono's been an integral part of the series since the first season; killing him would inspire MD6 to action, but it would deprive the series of one of it's prime male leads, and cause all sorts of problems down the road unless they killed him like X's Sorata - right at the tail end. Plus, if TSAB's corrupt, it's going to need movers and shakers to clean up afterwards - and Chrono'd be a prime candidate.
Final Verdict: I think for the most part, Chrono's safe as long as he keeps himself away from the fighting - the fact that it'd cause several problems is an excellent deterrent.
Lindy: Somewhat Probable.
Why: Lindy's role in the series is really pretty much over - she's not even listed in the cast. But killing her would be a way to achieve substantial impact without the problems of dealing with one of the active characters - Lindy's been like a mother or aunt to a great deal of the cast, and that'd give the necessary impact.
Verdict: If she ever gets brought up within the series, or Earth does in reference to her, she's probably a goner. If she remains as invisible as she has been, however, she's safe.
The Legendary Three: No Way on two, Quite Possible on the other
Why: The only LegenThree Adm. vulnerable would be "Grandma" - it's her relationship with Hayate and MD6 that makes her a target. However, she IS legendary - it'd be a stretch for even one of her former comrades to take her out - assassination anyone?
Verdict: "Grandma"'s got a 50:50 chance of survival, just like Lindy.
Carim: Possible.
Why: Carim's played a major role in this series - she's MD6's connection to the Saint Church, and she's had a good amount of screen time. What puts her at risk, however, is her ability to see the future - the villains could see that as a threat and decide to take her out. Like Chrono, however, she'll be needed if TSAB's corrupt and needs cleaning up postseries.
Verdict: Carim's the dark horse candidate in all this - the long shot.
Final Verdict As to the "King:" The most likely choices right now are Chrono and "Grandma," with "Grandma" edging out only because of the problem's Chrono's death would cause.
A Tower Will Fall: The Tower has always been the place of sanctuary; it falling will mean that someone no longer has a place to stay.
What is the Tower?: In all likelihood, MD6's HQ. It's the place that we've come to know and love - and its loss means that MD6 is on the run, with no place to go.
A Ship Will Sink: This is probably in connection to the Tower; after the fall of MD6's HQ, they'll move to one of TSAB's ships for home. That ship will probably be used near the very end to accomplish some major objective a la Starcraft's Tassadar aboard the Gantrithor.
WHO ARE THE ENEMY?!: There are currently three parties who could be considered the true enemy: Scaglietti and the Numbers, the Client, or corrupt parts of TSAB.
You mean it's not Lutecia?: No. Lutecia has made it evidently clear that she's like a pirate; only in it for what she can get out of it. As the Mafia say, it's nothing personal; just business.
Scaglietti & the Numbers: They're similar to A's Wolkenritter; just here because they've got a job to do. They're the ones MD6 will end up fighting the most, but they're not the true villains, just the "enforcers."
The Client: No two ways about it - the Client is definitely the ultimate villain in this series. The question remains, though, who is the Client?
Is it TSAB?: Quite possibly. Our airhead Adm. and his secretary seem awfully hateful of Hayate and MD6 - but past experience has taught me that 8/10 times, the asshole is simply an asshole and nothing more. But there could be other factions within TSAB at work.
In Short: The Client is the One True Enemy, but we've no idea as to who that is at this point.
Oh man are you telling me that guy actually survived? I never read the rest because I heard one of the characters I liked died. I'm tracking down the author of this one.
Heh, he's in 'jail' ...
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Shameless self-advertisement that my post has been updated... although I'm not sure if it's useful by now with RAW's out.
Forum were down right when I tried to edit it, and I'm forced to post it in just a small time I had between waking up and going to work, which means I haven't read pages so please forgive me if I interupted some discussion.
It's always welcomed... Now to find out what's this true purpose...
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Hey it wasn't me!
If I had wrote that script, 'onii-chan' would just be the appetizer of a much more colourful event....
Anyway, the 'true purpose' is... Well in a sense it's both what people had expected and unexpected
As it turns out it's nothing to do with corruption
But as it ALSO turns out, people might be getting their TSAB destruction after all
Now, it's obviously going to be Regius's fault. I'm not saying he intended it, but it's going to be his fault.
Oh one more thing, I would personally advised not to take Hayate's words too seriously. Recall how people were convince all the signs pointed to Nanoha biting the dust?
I say the writers are just yanking our chains, which apparently seems to work.
Location: In a place of extremes. From below freezing to above boiling.
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Originally Posted by Reiji Tabibito
Okay... so we learn more about Vivio, that Erio's not ready to be straight w/Caro about his past yet (who would?), and MORE FORESHADOWING
Spoiler for Carim's Revelation:
So far the biggest revelation of not just the ep, but the StrikerS series in general. It goes to the tune of "A King will perish, a Tower will fall, and a Ship will sink." Okay, time to break it down.
A King will Perish: There is a good amount of speculation that this refers to Hayate, and that she is the addressee of the line. However, I find this unlikely. In order to even get close to Hayate, they'd have to, at the very least, go through Rein and all four Wolkenritter, then take on Hayate herself. So, unless they're planning on killing her in one of those ignominious kinds of death, she's relatively safe.
Others, however, are not so well guarded. My guess is that King is reference to the position of the line's subject - someone in a very high position of power. There are at least six people that we can think of in that sort of position: Chrono, Lindy, the Legendary Three Admirals, and Carim herself.
Analysis of "King" likelihood:
Note: My guess as to the purpose of the "King" is to inspire MD6 to action; the death triggers the warpath response - we won't stop fighting until the fight is done. (See TV Tropes Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night to understand my thinking)
Chrono: Possible.
Why Yes: While he has had some screentime within the series, it's not been much considering that this first half as primarily dealt with training the rookies and the bureaucracy of TSAB. And while he IS an admiral, it's made evidently clear in 1st season that he is not as magically powerful as Nanoha or Fate (and therefore Hayate as well), and that means he'd be more likely to die in a straight up slugfest. Plus, he's an Admiral, and while he may not be as influential as the Legendary Three, he still wields considerable power within TSAB. Our ultimate villains (more on that later), if within TSAB, could see him as a potential threat and decide to have him eliminated. The fact that Chrono's now a family man doesn't make him immune; it would make his death more shocking a la FMA's Hughes.
Why No: On the other hand, Chrono's been an integral part of the series since the first season; killing him would inspire MD6 to action, but it would deprive the series of one of it's prime male leads, and cause all sorts of problems down the road unless they killed him like X's Sorata - right at the tail end. Plus, if TSAB's corrupt, it's going to need movers and shakers to clean up afterwards - and Chrono'd be a prime candidate.
Final Verdict: I think for the most part, Chrono's safe as long as he keeps himself away from the fighting - the fact that it'd cause several problems is an excellent deterrent.
Lindy: Somewhat Probable.
Why: Lindy's role in the series is really pretty much over - she's not even listed in the cast. But killing her would be a way to achieve substantial impact without the problems of dealing with one of the active characters - Lindy's been like a mother or aunt to a great deal of the cast, and that'd give the necessary impact.
Verdict: If she ever gets brought up within the series, or Earth does in reference to her, she's probably a goner. If she remains as invisible as she has been, however, she's safe.
The Legendary Three: No Way on two, Quite Possible on the other
Why: The only LegenThree Adm. vulnerable would be "Grandma" - it's her relationship with Hayate and MD6 that makes her a target. However, she IS legendary - it'd be a stretch for even one of her former comrades to take her out - assassination anyone?
Verdict: "Grandma"'s got a 50:50 chance of survival, just like Lindy.
Carim: Possible.
Why: Carim's played a major role in this series - she's MD6's connection to the Saint Church, and she's had a good amount of screen time. What puts her at risk, however, is her ability to see the future - the villains could see that as a threat and decide to take her out. Like Chrono, however, she'll be needed if TSAB's corrupt and needs cleaning up postseries.
Verdict: Carim's the dark horse candidate in all this - the long shot.
Final Verdict As to the "King:" The most likely choices right now are Chrono and "Grandma," with "Grandma" edging out only because of the problem's Chrono's death would cause.
A Tower Will Fall: The Tower has always been the place of sanctuary; it falling will mean that someone no longer has a place to stay.
What is the Tower?: In all likelihood, MD6's HQ. It's the place that we've come to know and love - and its loss means that MD6 is on the run, with no place to go.
A Ship Will Sink: This is probably in connection to the Tower; after the fall of MD6's HQ, they'll move to one of TSAB's ships for home. That ship will probably be used near the very end to accomplish some major objective a la Starcraft's Tassadar aboard the Gantrithor.
WHO ARE THE ENEMY?!: There are currently three parties who could be considered the true enemy: Scaglietti and the Numbers, the Client, or corrupt parts of TSAB.
You mean it's not Lutecia?: No. Lutecia has made it evidently clear that she's like a pirate; only in it for what she can get out of it. As the Mafia say, it's nothing personal; just business.
Scaglietti & the Numbers: They're similar to A's Wolkenritter; just here because they've got a job to do. They're the ones MD6 will end up fighting the most, but they're not the true villains, just the "enforcers."
The Client: No two ways about it - the Client is definitely the ultimate villain in this series. The question remains, though, who is the Client?
Is it TSAB?: Quite possibly. Our airhead Adm. and his secretary seem awfully hateful of Hayate and MD6 - but past experience has taught me that 8/10 times, the asshole is simply an asshole and nothing more. But there could be other factions within TSAB at work.
In Short: The Client is the One True Enemy, but we've no idea as to who that is at this point.
Just my thoughts on the matter.
Interesting points you've thrown here, but
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I'm not sure Lindy is a probability and Chrono being killed? Nah. StrikerS already has a bad reputation because of its slow start, killing off Chrono would mean fans sending death threats to the director (a la Neon Genesis Evangelion) Carim snuffing it doesn't fit neither because if she's the Leader of The Saint Church, she's gotta be quite powerful and as far as we know, looks like she has about the same power as an Admiral. "Grandma" joining the Heavenly tea party sounds credible, but she's one of the "Legendary Admirals" and since she's female I'm guessing she's pretty powerful (Come on, everytime they put girls in this show they turn out to be hyper powerful, don't flame me )
As much as i like all the doom and gloom theories and how exciting such developments seem ... i can not, for the life of me, picture any of the main cast kicking the bucket. This just doesn't seem the series to do so. I can see all sorts of betrayals, mindrapes and what not happening, but in the end our heroes armed with friendship (aka superior firepower) are going to prevail
Anyway, the 'true purpose' is... Well in a sense it's both what people had expected and unexpected
As it turns out it's nothing to do with corruption
But as it ALSO turns out, people might be getting their TSAB destruction after all
Now, it's obviously going to be Regius's fault. I'm not saying he intended it, but it's going to be his fault.
Oh one more thing, I would personally advised not to take Hayate's words too seriously. Recall how people were convince all the signs pointed to Nanoha biting the dust?
I say the writers are just yanking our chains, which apparently seems to work.
indeed Them producers just love to do that to us don't they^^ They make one ep seem dull (ep 8 or 9 can't remember of hand) and it ends up being the most talked about ep ever. They show one thing and then go another route. Basically we won't know till its shown^^ Heck predictions don't always come true For certain thou is TSAB isn't going to fair well in the near future.
she is more lovey dovey with Garyuu than Zest 
