(L) Shokugeki no Soma [Manga]

[Skyterror3381]

True that. There’s a difference between being confident, and cocky. “Muh diner dishes beats first-class gourmet dishes lolol” mate, you have plot armour. I mean, can you imagine a young cook who’s never made a gourmet dish winning against, say, Gordon Ramsay?

[MAX_COLA_POWER!]

Yeah this is one of those series that there's no point in using logic to try and make it understandable, just, look at the pretty colors, the fanservice, and laugh at the jokes, the end.

[LeftSeven]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

Question (I want a reminder here): did Jouichirou add gourmet techniques into the restaurant's dishes? If so, Souma's already using them. Though he should be better at it. He should still add more if he can, though. Unless it's not needed.

i guess nope, just look at rdc final, soma didn't know how to cook proper gourmet food, even he's not in level to present it yet only with erina's help he could reach that. mostly in yukihira dinner's menu aren't gourmet food just cheap food, so gourmet technique isn't needed.

that's why the main goal of this blue is for soma to learn what gourmet is, step by step.

[DragonOsman]

Jouichirou may still have put gourmet techniques into the dishes served at the diner. He just never taught Soma much. You do remember that Jouichirou's dishes using the same recipes were much better than Soma's when they competed? He already knew gourmet techniques. That's probably why.

As for when he had Erina help him. She helped him by tasting the food and giving him tips on making it better. Not so much with the technique itself. Even if she wasn't with him there, he could still have made a good dish. Just not one as good.

And the dish Souma just served is worth at least $100 and it's from the diner's menu. How is that a cheap dish?

I do think he needs to get better at using gourmet techniques, but it's not like he doesn't know how to use them at all. He know to some extent at least.

[kampfer91]

Jouichirou sure know how to serve Gourmet dishes , he basically travels around the world and use the kitchen of famous restaurant or hotel here and there .

Meanwhile , Souma is limited to the diner along with any trick he learned from his father .

[DragonOsman]

He's at Tootsuki now and he learned things there, as well as from Shinomiya. I did already say Jouichirou knows gourmet techniques, so I don't know why you said that to me.

[LeftSeven]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

Jouichirou may still have put gourmet techniques into the dishes served at the diner. He just never taught Soma much. You do remember that Jouichirou's dishes using the same recipes were much better than Soma's when they competed? He already knew gourmet techniques. That's probably why.

what i got from this manga is that gourmet techniques is not about only process at making food, it's about to make a course dish that complement each other while we knew every menu on yukihira are single dish each of their own. each of different class, joe can make delicous food without involving gourmet thing. joe's dish much tastier than soma is the proof between the most experienced one and the trainee, joe has a heart in his cooking and food while soma don't, just check how clueless soma was in moon banquet finals.

As for when he had Erina help him. She helped him by tasting the food and giving him tips on making it better. Not so much with the technique itself. Even if she wasn't with him there, he could still have made a good dish. Just not one as good.

look at bold one,her help made big leap to soma's dish, she give a quality check, did you think by used technique alone would give same result. nope, because what's azami's said was the proof, and soma knew it. yeah soma's dish was not bad but this just added more proof that soma is not at the level of gourmet yet

And the dish Souma just served is worth at least $100 and it's from the diner's menu. How is that a cheap dish?

it's a cheap dish indeed, but theme of exam itself forced soma to add it's value to the point it can be considered high class so he could pass the exam.

I do think he needs to get better at using gourmet techniques, but it's not like he doesn't know how to use them at all. He know to some extent at least.

yeah of course he must get better at gourmet things so he could beat asahi and win blue. i guess he's been learning it since time skip and blue is a stage where he will learn more and show them what he's got. i expect he will show more his hidden card as story progress.

[Kanon]

The chapter's out. Erina's new hairstyle is amazing.

We got Asahi's background story, and it's pretty much what you would expect. I feel Joe should have adopted him and taken him to Japan, instead of leaving him all alone. Souma who had just lost his mom would have probably been happy to get a big brother too. Easier than done, I guess.

[LeftSeven]

yeah, she's more charming now, that hairstyle has been introduced earlier tho.

daddy issuesssssssss,
this chapter keep reminding me that joe is such troublesome guy and don't really think twice about the aftercause of what he've done. azami and asahi becoming like they're now is joe's doing. azami is ambitious fool while joe is ignorant fool.

put that aside, this chapter, i don't know why about the mystery of bookmaster make me give some strange feeling surely that bookmaster is erina's mom lol.

and finally, esdeath, col.sander and whoever that guy appeared !!

[DragonOsman]

I'm thinking the gun and other weapons are a red-herring. It's just a cooking competition in a cooking manga, after all.

Anyway, I agree with LeftSeven about Jouichirou. The guy should think more carefully about the consequences of his actions.

Kanon's right about the Souma's older brother thing. Too bad that didn't happen. Though maybe it still can? Maybe Asahi can be redeemed and join the family for real. And hopefully Souma manages to beat him so that he can't marry Erina. I don't like the fact that he's getting ahead of himself with planning his honeymoon with Erina, as if he's already win.

[Homura7]

That's how confident he's in his victory.

Anyway, the author stated it once, and now we've got an official confirmation: Soma's mom passed away long ago.

And I'm afraid it'll have something to do with the scar.

[DragonOsman]

Yeah, I know he's just that confident in his victory, but he's still acting really annoying and I think Erina agrees with me on that (and if she does, she should say something about it to him).

[MAX_COLA_POWER!]

Yeah that book maker reeks of being Erina's Mom. The hairstyle made me see and think, Senzaemon's daughter.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

Yeah, I know he's just that confident in his victory, but he's still acting really annoying and I think Erina agrees with me on that (and if she does, she should say something about it to him).

She did say it. Maybe not those exact words, but she made it clear he was being super obnoxious. She only started tolerating him once he told her his past.

[Used Can]

I found it silly how Tsukuda wrote things so that Erina got somewhat along with a guy who happened to have kidnapped her some time ago. I know I should turn off my brain while reading this manga, but that was kinda dumb. The whole "I have daddy issues" thing was somewhat jarring too, at least Azami did what he did because he had an ideal, not because of some boohoo past.

As for Souma, I've given up on hoping for his character to evolve even one bit. It's clear to me, that as far as Tsukuda goes, Souma is perfect the way he is, even if he's little more than a walking gimmick. He seems unable to learn/grow as a person. Hardly anything seems to affect him, and when something does (usually related to his father), the whole thing is forgotten the next chapter.

One development I think would make things better for me would be if Souma gives Yukihira to Asahi, considering that's pretty much all the latter wants, and Souma instead decides to become his own thing and expand his horizons as a cook (kinda recovering the objective his self from the One Shot had). But I'm sure chances for anything like that happening is zero.

[MAX_COLA_POWER!]

Originally Posted by Used Can

I found it silly how Tsukuda wrote things so that Erina got somewhat along with a guy who happened to have kidnapped her some time ago. I know I should turn off my brain while reading this manga, but that was kinda dumb. The whole "I have daddy issues" thing was somewhat jarring too, at least Azami did what he did because he had an ideal, not because of some boohoo past.

As for Souma, I've given up on hoping for his character to evolve even one bit. It's clear to me, that as far as Tsukuda goes, Souma is perfect the way he is, even if he's little more than a walking gimmick. He seems unable to learn/grow as a person. Hardly anything seems to affect him, and when something does (usually related to his father), the whole thing is forgotten the next chapter.

One development I think would make things better for me would be if Souma gives Yukihira to Asahi, considering that's pretty much all the latter wants, and Souma instead decides to become his own thing and expand his horizons as a cook (kinda recovering the objective his self from the One Shot had). But I'm sure chances for anything like that happening is zero.

You'd have a better shot of an epilogue chapter where all of the foodgasms are uncensored and Erina and Souma engage in a different style of "consumption".

[Skyterror3381]

Well, I missed my mark, I thought erina is the bookmaker. My next guesses are either erina’s mum or granddaddy. Heck, or even her granny.

As for soma, I’ve pretty much given up on that overconfident and overrated bloke. “But I thought the mail was about trophies and stuff, so I didn’t really read it” ignorant much mate?

Honestly, I like tsukasa more and wish we see more of him. At least we know he’s got motivation (see how the book master thought of him and his dishes) and qualifications to be there and competing.

Oh, and btw, it seems tsukasa won their battle. His dish was worth thousands, if I recall correctly, whereas soma just passed. Yes, possible that she ran out of bills so might not had enough to pay soma, but anyway.

[Used Can]

Originally Posted by MAX_COLA_POWER!

You'd have a better shot of an epilogue chapter where all of the foodgasms are uncensored and Erina and Souma engage in a different style of "consumption".

That's funny, because I've seen Souma get more characterisation in some doujinshi, and that's saying a lot.

Originally Posted by Skyterror3381

As for soma, I’ve pretty much given up on that overconfident and overrated bloke. “But I thought the mail was about trophies and stuff, so I didn’t really read it” ignorant much mate?

I'll never understand why some authors like writing scenes like this one, in which the MC acts like a complete dumbass. Like, at the very least you would want to have an idea about the competition you're about to enter, since rules could screw you over.

Originally Posted by Skyterror3381

Oh, and btw, it seems tsukasa won their battle. His dish was worth thousands, if I recall correctly, whereas soma just passed. Yes, possible that she ran out of bills so might not had enough to pay soma, but anyway.

This is a huge problem. Tsukuda has done nothing to make us believe that Souma is on par with Tsukasa now, and yet we're somewhat expected to believe that he'll be able to beat Asahi somehow (I'm making that assumption, because it would be anti-climactic as fuck if that doesn't happen). We saw plenty of rubbish during the RdC, for one even Erina shouldn't have been able to beat Tsukasa, but at least with her we were always told she was highly talented, highly trained and she has her very special tongue, so it's possible to suspend your disbelief. On the other hand, there's nothing about Souma that might make readers think that he may have a realistic shot, and it's the whole "he'll win because he's the MC" (and this is a situation in which if he doesn't win it will also be really disappointing - this is even considering a scenario in which Erina beats Asahi on her own and doesn't have to marry him) that kills any chance of hype for this manga.

Seriously, I think I've said this before, but I can understand Tsukuda being a shit writer, but what I don't understand is how his editor allows him to get away with all of this. If the ever-decreasing sales aren't an indicator, things aren't going in a way that fans like, so it stands to reason that they would be more strict with Tsukuda and restrain him when his ideas are really stupid (like the entirety of this arc, for example).

[eisai_haramasukoi]

Wow, Jou is a lousy father. I mean, why didn't he just bring Asahi to Japan?

Can't wait for the fanfics to come out of this chapter.

[MAX_COLA_POWER!]

Originally Posted by AD3LF0N53

Wow, Jou is a lousy father. I mean, why didn't he just bring Asahi to Japan?

Can't wait for the H Doujinshi to come out of this chapter.

Fixed. And also...

Originally Posted by Used Can

That's funny, because I've seen Souma get more characterisation in some H-doujinshi, and that's saying a lot.

Ikumi earns her nickname in a different, and dare I say, more deserving way in those. Also, fixed.