2014-01-21, 09:56 | Link #4501 |
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I agree with Flower about Shizu and Maho being screwed, though one is much more than the other. Shizu would have to activate her power in the first hand for it to be useful, otherwise she'd just be blocking the other players, making things easier for Teru. In elimination rounds one could use that as an advantage by picking on another player to drop someone below zero, but in a fight to win its worthless.
Maho is even worse off because of the "one turn only" part. Even if she can see what her opponents wiil do next turn (I'm assuming she forgets next turn or its more of an intuition to her) that's just Toki's first stage power, which Teru can counter with ease. And of course, Maho couldn't make use of the rollout effect, which starts with very small gains, so she'd actually be crippled by this power the turn she copies it. Also, it seems Teru can't handle so well powers that affect the tiles rather than the opponent directly, like Kuro's dora magnet. She got wrecked, but her power was never countered. |
2014-01-21, 10:49 | Link #4502 | |
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or is it just Jindai able to use all 9 god??? at the same time, please enlighten me Oh yeah also please help me with this for anybody who know Mahjong closely (i'm super beginner/+/- 1 month exp) I have a hand consist of 1111234567999m, then i ron someone with 8m, in explanation it say a hand consist of that is Yakuman, but why am i only got haneman, thank before |
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2014-01-21, 11:14 | Link #4503 |
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Shizu may be a great threat to Teru more than you guys think.
From Semi-Final, Teru's mirror power seems to represent how she can understand the playstyle of other player and see though all players' plans and moves - Completly control the flow of game. Who know what will happen if that power is blocked. Teru may become a totally bad player who can't read the game at all and easily become the prey of other players. This is just my theory.
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2014-01-21, 11:32 | Link #4504 | ||
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As for your issue with an expected chuuren pooto, were all of the tiles in your hand self-drawn? What I mean is, did you make any chis or pons. I find this somewhat unlikely because Teru's mirror activates at the very start of the round immediately following the first game of the match whereas Shizu's power requires a long buildup time before she can acclimate to her surroundings and become 'one' with the mountain. |
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2014-01-21, 11:35 | Link #4505 | ||
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Satoha thought the same when she commented on Yuuki's increasing speed. I think Hisa understands that too, and wants Yuuki to do fast hands in conjunction with Kuro hogging all the dora. I don't think her plan is necessarily for Yuuki to beat Teru, but to just limit the damage as much as possible, so that Teru doesn't get a gigantic lead for her team again. So, yeah, Teru knows how you will play, but her desire to get increasing big wins will be holding her back. Quote:
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2014-01-21, 14:16 | Link #4506 | |
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About Kasumi, I remember the girls saying something like that after the match ended, how she got a weak god that time and how otherwise she'd have wrecked everyone. |
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2014-01-21, 17:15 | Link #4507 |
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First time here, joined to be in this great discussion
For some reason Maho doesn’t copy Mako’s power. She can do Nodoka’s logical play and Saki’ rinshan but she can’t copy “Nodocchi” or Saki’s +/-0 playstyle. This makes me think Maho can only copy unhidden powers. Mako’s photographic memory is not easily perceived, and it’s not like Maho has the ability to read someone’s mind. Kokaji pro only speculate that Teru has an ability to see through other players like she has a mirror after speaking to pros who played against Teru. So if Maho fights against Teru, it’d be interesting to see whether she can copy Teru’s mirror power or dealer repeats. I can’t imagine how Shizu can be a great threat to Teru. Last tournament Teru beat Arakawa Kei (unknown power) and Satoha (not much is known about her power, but based on SF vanguard’s match, she has good mahjong skill). Thus, Teru has to be pretty good skill-wise. Jindai also competed in the last tournament. I’m not sure how the individual is set up, but she at least must be better than Jindai. Otherwise, how could she become champion? Imagine a tournament where you have to face several “monster” players or players whose ability contradicts others, relying on raw power is not a smart idea. I think Teru is still better than Shizu in terms of mahjong skill. Unless Ritz ignores all the sibling quarrels and family conflicts she has built up for 5 years and decides to let side character win for once |
2014-01-21, 22:55 | Link #4508 | |
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And yes, i did chi and pon, Is chureen has to be closed hand? |
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2014-01-22, 01:47 | Link #4511 | |
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Hayarin is either watching or commentating on Rinkai's match, given that later, she'll hype up Usuzan, whose team she will have seen in the other QF. While I'm not surprised that Yoshiko showed up since I figured her to be watching the Eisui match anyway (what with not knowing much about Usuzan and her comments to Himematsu), that does actually make her being called in by Ikuno somewhat strange. Isn't that pretty biased, to call in a pro to prepare one of the participating teams on another, both of whom had been commented on by her? I suppose if she no longer has commenting duties for the rest of the way... and I guess there isn't really much conflict of interest or other insight (because everyone sees the same footage)... but still, it seems strange. I don't think any of the other commenting pros specifically prepare participating teams and instead, stay neutral.
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2014-01-22, 09:38 | Link #4512 |
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The commentary for Kiyosumi's 2nd quarter is actually newly added, if anyone hasn't figured it out.
Kainou-pro was used because there's no one else who can, unless they intro a new pro. Speaking of which, Eisui's entrance was pretty grand, and very lulz-worthy. |
2014-01-22, 09:57 | Link #4513 |
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The same thing sort of happened when Fujita went to talk to Koromo during her match. She didn't give her direct mahjong advice or tips or anything, but a commentator coming down to chat with one of the players did seem odd. If you were a passerbyer, you could easily think that she could have been handing out advice.
Actually...it really wouldn't be right at all, now that I think about it. Since the viewers (and commentators) get to see everyone's hands, they could easily inform their favorite player of any patterns they see, weaknesses, whatever. Someone's own team or coach giving advice off that would be ok I guess, but a 3rd party like a network crew seems a little weird. |
2014-01-22, 10:49 | Link #4514 | |
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Now the talk is about the commentators, eh? Once again I'm amazed at the depths of what you canget from this series. |
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2014-01-22, 11:09 | Link #4515 |
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Join Date: May 2010
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Well, one of the reasons my ears pricked up regarding the commentator is because not only did she later confirm that Saki was an unbekievable national class monster, but also thought she could show the method to defeat her - that alone pricks my interest.
As for Jindai, it is true that her appearances thus far have been nowhere the level of a monster; we only got a teeny glimpse. I, for one, am looking forward to her switching into overdrive in the Individuals....
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2014-01-22, 21:27 | Link #4517 |
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Unless Usuzan makes it through, Kiyosumi's going to be the only team without a coach... It really just makes me even more impressed with Hisa's skills. Despite seeming like she's lackadaiscal, Hisa actually puts in a lot of work behind the scenes. She is consistently shown studying records and strategizing for her team.
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2014-01-22, 21:32 | Link #4518 |
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That does beg the question though: as a school club, you'd think that they'd have an adviser at the very least, even if the teacher in question has no actual practical knowledge in what the club does (see Ama-chan in Free! or Mutsuko in Tamayura), just to supervise. And Hisa does the actual coaching anyway, but still...
With Kiyosumi, we've seen none of this, which makes it even more amazing how the club was even able to last this long. Methinks Hisa is playing up her influence as Student Council president to the hilt.
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2014-01-22, 21:46 | Link #4519 | |
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2014-01-22, 21:53 | Link #4520 |
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Harue not only applied to teach at Achiga, but she did so to become the club's adviser on a official capacity. As for the rest, let's see, Eisui and Shiraitodai have no visible adviser, but think of how these teams are structured -- the former is like a clan structure (branch families helping the main one), the latter like a Yakuza family rather than a club.
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