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FireChick · 2011-01-11, 20:51

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...r-kahn-retires

I am not joking. It says so here.

For all you 4Kids Entertainment haters out there, there is a God after all! Hopefully we'll get a CEO who will ACTUALLY be faithful to our anime! Or maybe license the good anime that children NEED to be exposed to nowadays!

Anyway...

KAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Taufiq91 · 2011-01-11, 21:06

It's "4kids" aka "For kids"

No matter who's in charge, they will still license stuff and edit it "for kids".

Unless if they go the MTV/History Channel route and license shows like Togainu no Chi and To Love Ru unedited.

Hiroi Sekai · 2011-01-11, 21:06

This thread is win.

Anyways, 4Kids was what kept me from knowing what real anime was. I want my childhood back.

Archon_Wing · 2011-01-11, 21:44

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Originally Posted by FireChick

KAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have no real input, but that's exactly what I was gonna say upon seeing this thread.

Ah, 4kids; it brings back memories of Yugioh the Abridged Series. Oh wait...

Akito Kinomoto · 2011-01-11, 22:50

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Originally Posted by papermario13689

4Kids was what kept me from knowing what real anime was. I want my childhood back.

It's funny how the company that introduced many people to anime simultaneously made those same folks hate them with a passion. Talk about biting the hand that fed you

Oh yeah...

KAAAAAAAAAHHHNNN!!!

Sackett · 2011-01-11, 23:41

There are plenty of good anime that could be done for kids without chopping it up.

Cross Game for example, is clean, and entertainment for the whole family.

Kimi Ni Todoke is a sweet love story that middle school girls would probably just love.

K-On could actually benefit from the removal of fanservice and targeted at the girl tween demographic.

Ithekro · 2011-01-11, 23:42

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KAAAAAAAAAHHHNNN!!!

And entirely different part of my childhood right there.
4Kids was after my childhood ended, I got a different kind of localization from the late 1970s and 1980s instead.

RandySyler · 2011-01-12, 00:10

4kids...
All I've seen them do is butcher and screw up perfectly fine anime-while making children complete, gun fearing wimps.

I'm very glad this guy is gone. Although, they'll put one of their backups in to take over, so it won't be that much of a change.

Hiroi Sekai · 2011-01-12, 00:31

That was the problem with 4Kids.

I can understand the toning down of violence, sexual innuendo, and other things children shouldn't watch, but sometimes they remove pointless things. Localization is okay to a certain point; removing Japanese products with local American ones changes the scenario and the setting (occurs in Pokemon), changing a character's colour due to the slightest possibility of racial stereotyping is skeptical (occurs in Dragon Ball Z), and important scenes and sometimes full episodes are removed to make the show shorter. Other crappy shows run for like 20 seasons, and yet anime shows get cut off halfway through the first.

Localization in general is pretty terrible (like whoever localized Card Captor Sakura ["Cardcaptors"]), but 4Cha...I mean, 4Kids was the worst of them all. Ah yes, to add further insult, take a look at the One Piece japanese openings...then watch the abomination that is the english opening.

I should note that Pokemon, Digimon, Cardcaptors, and Megaman NT Warrior were my favourite shows on TV back then, and they weren't bad. What annoys me is when I watched the Japanese versions years later, and saw how much of the awesome content I missed.

wingdarkness · 2011-01-12, 01:01

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Originally Posted by FireChick

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...r-kahn-retires

I am not joking. It says so here.

For all you 4Kids Entertainment haters out there, there is a God after all! Hopefully we'll get a CEO who will ACTUALLY be faithful to our anime! Or maybe license the good anime that children NEED to be exposed to nowadays!

Anyway...

KAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!

And all the poor animation teams used to replace "Marines" in One Piece with "Navy" also salutes this decision...

Oh the guys who drew this too xD:

Hiroi Sekai · 2011-01-12, 01:04

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Originally Posted by wingdarkness

And all the poor animation teams used to replace "Marines" in One Piece with "Navy" also salutes this decision...

Oh the guys who drew this too xD:

*laughs uncontrollably* I remember that! B-but, what the bloody hell is it?!

Anyways, look at the magic of 4Kids: not only do they feel the need to change the gun into a ridiculous...thing, but look at the pointless colour change in his shirt! What's. The. Point.

wingdarkness · 2011-01-12, 01:09

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B-but, what the bloody hell is it?!

Looks like a design that didn't quite make it @ NERF...

zpf0918 · 2011-01-12, 01:19

If your going to watch it dubbed in English. Better watch the japanese version first then might as well compare if they crop some scenes. Its the same as Yu-Gi-Oh! when it first came out. Pretty good until you watch the japanese original version and the whole point of their plot later on.

Its either scenes that seem unnecessary, change the whole plot, and etc. The whole point of English licensing is just they can do w/e they want with it since its their's for profit. Even if they make remove violence but then get lets get back to the point its majority for profit aimed at kids.

I say 90s anime were okay back in English dubbing until around 2003 i say.

Kameruka · 2011-01-12, 01:29

I wonder what if 4Kids dub Yosuga no Sora...

Haru and Sora will never get down to business and they sleep with clothes on but still on the same bed/futon.

Hiroi Sekai · 2011-01-12, 01:31

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Originally Posted by zpf0918

If your going to watch it dubbed in English. Better watch the japanese version first then might as well compare if they crop some scenes. Its the same as Yu-Gi-Oh! when it first came out. Pretty good until you watch the japanese original version and the whole point of their plot later on.

Its either scenes that seem unnecessary, change the whole plot, and etc. The whole point of English licensing is just they can do w/e they want with it since its their's for profit. Even if they make remove violence but then get lets get back to the point its majority for profit aimed at kids.

I say 90s anime were okay back in English dubbing until around 2003 i say.

^ Agreed. It's like watching two separate stories; both just happen to have the same characters. The problem for most of us was that back then, we didn't know about proper anime, we had what 4Kids gave to us. Cardcaptors was still really memorable for me, but really? Keep Sakura's name the same, but change Tomoyo to Madison? XD And that wasn't even 4Kids!

zpf0918 · 2011-01-12, 01:39

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Originally Posted by papermario13689

^ Agreed. It's like watching two separate stories; both just happen to have the same characters. The problem for most of us was that back then, we didn't know about proper anime, we had what 4Kids gave to us. Cardcaptors was still really memorable for me, but really? Keep Sakura's name the same, but change Tomoyo to Madison? XD And that wasn't even 4Kids!

Probably the first animes that were good dubbed were Dragon Ball Z, Sailor Moon, and ranma 1/2. Though i learned of ranma 1/2 late on in the 2000s o.o

Sailor Moon after not realizing it since it was part of my childhood... the english dubbed was actually horrible lol. Though it was still good .... as a childhood memory

Card Captors was good dubbed too but the changes really are a bit too much. Japanese anime before the English Dubbed. Side character can get a name change either way. If you change the main characters name... Then the anime is not worth watching anymore.

~Yosuga lol never will the anime be licensed after all that lol If it does.... i wanna see the major crop off... well its pretty obvious where it'll be cut off.

SilverSyko · 2011-01-12, 01:47

My only grudge against 4kids can be summed up in the video below:

Otherwise they are responsible for a lot of my childhood favorites (Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh etc.) so I can't harp on them too harshly.

I really doubt Kahn's retirement is gonna change anything though.

Kotohono · 2011-01-12, 01:51

To put how I feel simply I'd say, "And nothing of value was lost."

zpf0918 · 2011-01-12, 02:10

Lol funny how the riceball part is always censored though it really doesnt have a meaning to be censored... well besides riceballs being japanese food representative kind of thing.

Blood lol.... but anyways ill just stick to japanese as usual since they are "more" in character with the characters then dubbed ones.

SilverSyko · 2011-01-12, 02:16

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Originally Posted by zpf0918

Lol funny how the riceball part is always censored though it really doesnt have a meaning to be censored... well besides riceballs being japanese food representative kind of thing.

Not to mention they remove the kanji, like they're trying to erase the fact it's a Japanese-originated show.

Maybe it's just their American pride being damaged by having to localize foreign programming because nothing the Americans make will interest the kids anymore so they try to make it look like it's made in America to heal it again. =P

2011-01-11, 20:51	Link #1
FireChick Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006	4Kids Entertainment CEO Al Kahn retires http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...r-kahn-retires I am not joking. It says so here. For all you 4Kids Entertainment haters out there, there is a God after all! Hopefully we'll get a CEO who will ACTUALLY be faithful to our anime! Or maybe license the good anime that children NEED to be exposed to nowadays! Anyway... KAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!

2011-01-11, 21:06	Link #2
Taufiq91 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010	It's "4kids" aka "For kids" No matter who's in charge, they will still license stuff and edit it "for kids". Unless if they go the MTV/History Channel route and license shows like Togainu no Chi and To Love Ru unedited. __________________ http://animemix.tumblr.com/

2011-01-11, 23:41	Link #6
Sackett Cross Game - I need more Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: I've moved around the American West. I've lived in Oregon, Washington, Utah, and Oklahoma Age: 44	There are plenty of good anime that could be done for kids without chopping it up. Cross Game for example, is clean, and entertainment for the whole family. Kimi Ni Todoke is a sweet love story that middle school girls would probably just love. K-On could actually benefit from the removal of fanservice and targeted at the girl tween demographic. __________________ Cross Game - A Story of Love, Life, Death - and Baseball. What more could you want?

2011-01-12, 00:10	Link #8
RandySyler Onee-Chan Power~! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: In this reality (A.K.A. Colorado, U.S.A.)	4kids... All I've seen them do is butcher and screw up perfectly fine anime-while making children complete, gun fearing wimps. I'm very glad this guy is gone. Although, they'll put one of their backups in to take over, so it won't be that much of a change. __________________

2011-01-12, 01:47	Link #17
SilverSyko Okuyasu the Bird Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Age: 32	My only grudge against 4kids can be summed up in the video below: <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/4YpKYo3W69Q">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> Otherwise they are responsible for a lot of my childhood favorites (Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh etc.) so I can't harp on them too harshly. I really doubt Kahn's retirement is gonna change anything though. __________________

2011-01-12, 01:19	Link #13
zpf0918 Aishiteiru to itte kure Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: In your Hard-Drive Age: 33	If your going to watch it dubbed in English. Better watch the japanese version first then might as well compare if they crop some scenes. Its the same as Yu-Gi-Oh! when it first came out. Pretty good until you watch the japanese original version and the whole point of their plot later on. Its either scenes that seem unnecessary, change the whole plot, and etc. The whole point of English licensing is just they can do w/e they want with it since its their's for profit. Even if they make remove violence but then get lets get back to the point its majority for profit aimed at kids. I say 90s anime were okay back in English dubbing until around 2003 i say.

2011-01-12, 01:29	Link #14
Kameruka Hen-Tie Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Hen-Tie pen	I wonder what if 4Kids dub Yosuga no Sora... Haru and Sora will never get down to business and they sleep with clothes on but still on the same bed/futon.

2011-01-12, 02:10	Link #19
zpf0918 Aishiteiru to itte kure Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: In your Hard-Drive Age: 33	Lol funny how the riceball part is always censored though it really doesnt have a meaning to be censored... well besides riceballs being japanese food representative kind of thing. Blood lol.... but anyways ill just stick to japanese as usual since they are "more" in character with the characters then dubbed ones.