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Ryus · 2009-11-30, 03:43

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Originally Posted by Vantek

Yes, thanks! OK, I now understand what you mean. In the end, I don't agree with you, I think there is far less difference between the two than you make it out to be.

To be certain that someone wouldn't betray you is the same as to be certain you mean the world to them. It's one and the same.

Teresa was emotionally stunted as well.

However, I think we both now understand and recognise each other's position, so there's been progress even if we didn't change each other's mind. Thanks for the discussion!

Glad I could clear up my position for you.

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Originally Posted by Vantek

Haha, sorry! I thought I had read Teresa arc in manga form but guess I must have skipped some of it... Yes, in that case there is some difference here, but in my opinion not nearly as much as you make it out to be. Maybe 10-15% :P

You haven't read the whole Teresa arc?!?!? So... You've been relying on the anime to understand the arc this whole time for it?

You are so not a true fan!

I must kill you now...

(for the record: I've read it twice in the last 24 hrs... no joke.)

Vantek · 2009-11-30, 04:17

lulz...

I am very reluctant to watch/read the same thing more than once in a short amount of time. My favourite strategy is to watch/read something once, and then completely forget about it as quickly as possible so that it might seem new and fresh again in the shortest amount of time so I could watch it all over again without knowing precisely what comes next ^^ So paradoxally, the more I like something, the more motivation I have to NOT watch/read it many times in short timespan =P

I actually started reading manga from the start right after watching Claymore this month, but this was fueled by wanting to compare manga and anime while my memories of the anime remained fresh. They actually seemed VERY similar, so I assumed up to the Battle of Pieta there's little difference between manga and anime, and decided to skip to that point. And I actually thought I read the Teresa arc because I remember reading the forest scene and Teresa's death, but I guess I must have skipped everything except these two scenes ><

HegemonKhan · 2009-11-30, 04:20

laughs... no you don't see "anything more" in the manga... if you're talking about "those" two forest scenes....

well, as you can see, what my mind immediately jumped to.. lol... when you said forest scenes+Teresa... lol

Vantek · 2009-11-30, 04:29

X)

I just checked, and I am certain I read the whole Teresa arc... But I somehow completely forgot about the screen with Teresa's past :S

Ryus · 2009-11-30, 13:33

There are many little changes through out the anime, form the manga. For instance when Irene gives her arm to Clare in the anime it kinda comes off as she knew she would be killed soon and/or leaving the viewer wondering how she'll feed herself, but in the manga she tells Clare that truly strong offensive warriors can regrow a human strength limb (so no using a Claymore, one handed at least). So since she doesn't really battle any more the loss of her Claymore limb wouldn't effect her and she could continue living the way she had been once her new arm was completely regrown in about a months time.

So it is rewarding to read the manga and after watching the anime. Plus us manga readers won't call you on making a mistake like saying there's no Teresa backstory.

I personally don't read Claymore to the level that I had when I first got into it, which was once though every other day

. But now I read the whole story at least once a month if not twice or three times. I read the first five volumes again, twice over in a day, since of our debate over Raki+Clare vs Clare+Teresa. Mainly since you got me thinking nonstop about them again.

I also read multiple translations of Claymore... for two reasons, first off to better understand what was said and meant in the RAW (since I can't read Japanese), and second so I never get bored with anyone translation (which reminds me I need to thank Cyclone for telling about 10Sigh's translation, it was really good). That way I'm focusing more on the feeling of what was said rather then the exact wording of a translation.

Vantek · 2009-11-30, 14:35

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For instance when Irene gives her arm to Clare in the anime it kinda comes off as she knew she would be killed soon and/or leaving the viewer wondering how she'll feed herself, but in the manga she tells Clare that truly strong offensive warriors can regrow a human strength limb (so no using a Claymore, one handed at least). So since she doesn't really battle any more the loss of her Claymore limb wouldn't effect her and she could continue living the way she had been once her new arm was completely regrown in about a months time.

Haha, I actually noticed that myself. Definitely thought "umm, how are you gonna get by with NO hands" while watching anime...

HegemonKhan · 2009-11-30, 18:15

it's funny...

if say an extremely powerful regenerative Claymore, let's herself get sliced to pieces and then waits long enough (so she can no longer remember what her claymore body was like and thus can't regenerate back her claymore body), she can then regenerate herself back as a nearly full human again, lol....

Darker Doom · 2009-12-01, 22:33

my favorite scene so far in the manga is the bit where Galatea showed up again!

Spoiler:

and the bit where Teresa hugged Clare in the forest that was emotional

camilla · 2009-12-02, 17:44

I'll add the following to the list of my favorite scenes.

Spoiler for Don't click it if you haven't read chapter 98 yet ;):

HegemonKhan · 2009-12-02, 19:35

Sadly, I don't think Beth's pain-revenge-anger-rage will allow her to kill Priscilla, though if Yagi wants to give us all heart attacks, have Priscilla get killed by Beth, lol....

WHAT A SHOCKER, Beth kills Priscilla!

Don't mess with the "DARK/BLACK SISTERHOOD!"

clarakiss~ · 2009-12-02, 21:49

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Originally Posted by HegemonKhan

Sadly, I don't think Beth's pain-revenge-anger-rage will allow her to kill Priscilla, though if Yagi wants to give us all heart attacks, have Priscilla get killed by Beth, lol....

WHAT A SHOCKER, Beth kills Priscilla!

Don't mess with the "DARK/BLACK SISTERHOOD!"

well hedgy... riful did make a comment 'it's over' meaning priscilla also killed beth at the end of the chappy.

Kikaifan · 2009-12-03, 03:23

Irene reminiscing on Teresa for Clare's benefit ended up being one of my favorite scenes, in retrospect. It made me really wish they'd gone into Irene and Teresa's prior meetings.

HegemonKhan · 2009-12-03, 22:56

that was probably the one time, Irene actually WAS wise, and not merely sounding wise while being often dead wrong... lol

Arkham · 2009-12-22, 09:42

I love this scene!

Spoiler for lol:

GUUAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

I would love to see this animated

(Hiyori_Tamura) · 2009-12-26, 02:38

1. When Clare defeats Rigaldo and he say's "Magnificent!" It was just awesome...
2. When Clarice runs to Miata and saves her from Bloody Agatha and she just starts yelling and crying at her and both of them bawl on each other, so sweet.
3. When Clare punches Raki in the head before going to fight an awakened being for the first time, it was hilarious to me xD
4. When Clare put her sword through Ophelia and Ophelia slowly fell into the water while remembering her brother, very sweet and peaceful scene.
5. The newest scene where Prissy is kicking everyone's ass, finally! I've been waiting for her to go nuts xD
They're are alot more, but these are the narrowest I could get it >.>

(Hiyori_Tamura) · 2009-12-26, 03:31

@ HegemonKhan
No Problemo =] I just loved how her hair was unbraided and she just laid there so peaceful and the like.
Ahhh I loved that scene. They pretty much became "Instant Friends" in that instance, because of they're similarity in there pasts and personalities. I thought it was amazing that Deneve was acting as Helen did in trying to help Undine to understand why she was the way she was, and that it was okay for her to fear death.

(Hiyori_Tamura) · 2009-12-26, 03:47

And I believe Clare should be strong enough to defeat Priscilla, but after seeing Priscilla smashing down the head of Alicia of all people, I'm having my doubts.
I also feel terrible for the Claymores themselves, and the awakened beings. Because the REAL people Clare should want to get revenge on is the Organization. But I suppose Personal vendetta's have to be taken care of >.>

(Hiyori_Tamura) · 2009-12-26, 20:15

They're just evil people aren't they?
Plus I can't wait to see if the organization is able to tame the destroyer...But I highly doubt that...I bet they'll be destroyed by they're own people

Saint Salty · 2009-12-27, 14:57

My favorite scene in both the anime and manga is when young Clare was clutching Teresa's head after Priscilla left the area. That was a very powerful moment for me.

MichaelAngelo · 2009-12-28, 09:42

My favorite scene was that extra scene of Teresa's where she twisted Rosemary's hand, saying, "I twisted it, just like this *demo* :

2009-11-30, 04:17	Link #182
Vantek Asleep Being Join Date: Nov 2009	lulz... I am very reluctant to watch/read the same thing more than once in a short amount of time. My favourite strategy is to watch/read something once, and then completely forget about it as quickly as possible so that it might seem new and fresh again in the shortest amount of time so I could watch it all over again without knowing precisely what comes next ^^ So paradoxally, the more I like something, the more motivation I have to NOT watch/read it many times in short timespan =P I actually started reading manga from the start right after watching Claymore this month, but this was fueled by wanting to compare manga and anime while my memories of the anime remained fresh. They actually seemed VERY similar, so I assumed up to the Battle of Pieta there's little difference between manga and anime, and decided to skip to that point. And I actually thought I read the Teresa arc because I remember reading the forest scene and Teresa's death, but I guess I must have skipped everything except these two scenes >< Last edited by Vantek; 2009-11-30 at 04:29.

2009-12-01, 22:33	Link #188
Darker Doom Advanced Warfighter Join Date: Dec 2009	my favorite scene so far in the manga is the bit where Galatea showed up again! Spoiler: Although she was blind, she's still so pretty ^^ and the bit where Teresa hugged Clare in the forest that was emotional

2009-12-02, 17:44	Link #189
camilla WantsToSeeHerSmileAgain Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: on the Alps/ in the plain	I'll add the following to the list of my favorite scenes. Spoiler for Don't click it if you haven't read chapter 98 yet ;): A hyper-protective Alicia comes to help her sister, decides to awaken even knowing that doing so none of them would come back to human form anymore. And Beth crying and yelling at Alicia's death. So powerful. So touching. So human. My hat goes off to both of them. __________________ Take zero. Add zero... Infinity. Last edited by camilla; 2009-12-06 at 17:31. Reason: Delete images

2009-12-03, 03:23	Link #192
Kikaifan Blazing General Join Date: May 2006 Location: CA Age: 37	Irene reminiscing on Teresa for Clare's benefit ended up being one of my favorite scenes, in retrospect. It made me really wish they'd gone into Irene and Teresa's prior meetings. __________________

2009-11-30, 04:20	Link #183
HegemonKhan Banned Join Date: Sep 2009	laughs... no you don't see "anything more" in the manga... if you're talking about "those" two forest scenes.... well, as you can see, what my mind immediately jumped to.. lol... when you said forest scenes+Teresa... lol

2009-11-30, 04:29	Link #184
Vantek Asleep Being Join Date: Nov 2009	X) I just checked, and I am certain I read the whole Teresa arc... But I somehow completely forgot about the screen with Teresa's past :S

2009-11-30, 13:33	Link #185
Ryus The One Eyed King Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lurking Up Ahead	There are many little changes through out the anime, form the manga. For instance when Irene gives her arm to Clare in the anime it kinda comes off as she knew she would be killed soon and/or leaving the viewer wondering how she'll feed herself, but in the manga she tells Clare that truly strong offensive warriors can regrow a human strength limb (so no using a Claymore, one handed at least). So since she doesn't really battle any more the loss of her Claymore limb wouldn't effect her and she could continue living the way she had been once her new arm was completely regrown in about a months time. So it is rewarding to read the manga and after watching the anime. Plus us manga readers won't call you on making a mistake like saying there's no Teresa backstory. I personally don't read Claymore to the level that I had when I first got into it, which was once though every other day . But now I read the whole story at least once a month if not twice or three times. I read the first five volumes again, twice over in a day, since of our debate over Raki+Clare vs Clare+Teresa. Mainly since you got me thinking nonstop about them again. I also read multiple translations of Claymore... for two reasons, first off to better understand what was said and meant in the RAW (since I can't read Japanese), and second so I never get bored with anyone translation (which reminds me I need to thank Cyclone for telling about 10Sigh's translation, it was really good). That way I'm focusing more on the feeling of what was said rather then the exact wording of a translation.

2009-11-30, 18:15	Link #187
HegemonKhan Banned Join Date: Sep 2009	it's funny... if say an extremely powerful regenerative Claymore, let's herself get sliced to pieces and then waits long enough (so she can no longer remember what her claymore body was like and thus can't regenerate back her claymore body), she can then regenerate herself back as a nearly full human again, lol....

2009-12-02, 19:35	Link #190
HegemonKhan Banned Join Date: Sep 2009	Sadly, I don't think Beth's pain-revenge-anger-rage will allow her to kill Priscilla, though if Yagi wants to give us all heart attacks, have Priscilla get killed by Beth, lol.... WHAT A SHOCKER, Beth kills Priscilla! Don't mess with the "DARK/BLACK SISTERHOOD!"

2009-12-03, 22:56	Link #193
HegemonKhan Banned Join Date: Sep 2009	that was probably the one time, Irene actually WAS wise, and not merely sounding wise while being often dead wrong... lol

2009-12-22, 09:42	Link #194
Arkham Stoned Assasin Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The Pillars of Nosgoth Age: 37	I love this scene! Spoiler for lol: GUUAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! I would love to see this animated

2009-12-26, 02:38	Link #195
(Hiyori_Tamura) Currently Buried In Manga Join Date: Dec 2009 Age: 30	1. When Clare defeats Rigaldo and he say's "Magnificent!" It was just awesome... 2. When Clarice runs to Miata and saves her from Bloody Agatha and she just starts yelling and crying at her and both of them bawl on each other, so sweet. 3. When Clare punches Raki in the head before going to fight an awakened being for the first time, it was hilarious to me xD 4. When Clare put her sword through Ophelia and Ophelia slowly fell into the water while remembering her brother, very sweet and peaceful scene. 5. The newest scene where Prissy is kicking everyone's ass, finally! I've been waiting for her to go nuts xD They're are alot more, but these are the narrowest I could get it >.>

2009-12-26, 03:31	Link #196
(Hiyori_Tamura) Currently Buried In Manga Join Date: Dec 2009 Age: 30	@ HegemonKhan No Problemo =] I just loved how her hair was unbraided and she just laid there so peaceful and the like. Ahhh I loved that scene. They pretty much became "Instant Friends" in that instance, because of they're similarity in there pasts and personalities. I thought it was amazing that Deneve was acting as Helen did in trying to help Undine to understand why she was the way she was, and that it was okay for her to fear death.

2009-12-26, 03:47	Link #197
(Hiyori_Tamura) Currently Buried In Manga Join Date: Dec 2009 Age: 30	And I believe Clare should be strong enough to defeat Priscilla, but after seeing Priscilla smashing down the head of Alicia of all people, I'm having my doubts. I also feel terrible for the Claymores themselves, and the awakened beings. Because the REAL people Clare should want to get revenge on is the Organization. But I suppose Personal vendetta's have to be taken care of >.>

2009-12-26, 20:15	Link #198
(Hiyori_Tamura) Currently Buried In Manga Join Date: Dec 2009 Age: 30	They're just evil people aren't they? Plus I can't wait to see if the organization is able to tame the destroyer...But I highly doubt that...I bet they'll be destroyed by they're own people

2009-12-27, 14:57	Link #199
Saint Salty Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Canada	My favorite scene in both the anime and manga is when young Clare was clutching Teresa's head after Priscilla left the area. That was a very powerful moment for me.

2009-12-28, 09:42	Link #200
MichaelAngelo Member Join Date: Oct 2009	My favorite scene was that extra scene of Teresa's where she twisted Rosemary's hand, saying, "I twisted it, just like this demo :