(L) Fairy Tail Manga Discussion Thread

[immblueversion]

Oh hey, look! Consequences!

Also, no chapter next week from the looks of things.

[B214]

A pretty amusing chapter if you choose to ignore it's faults.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by B214

A pretty amusing chapter if you choose to ignore it's faults.

The problem is they're so hard to ignore. This is getting to levels of ridiculousness that are almost painful.

[Diluc]

Originally Posted by immblueversion

Oh hey, look! Consequences!

Also, no chapter next week from the looks of things.

Hooooraaay!!!
wait!! wth i am doing?? this so reversed

[immblueversion]

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

The problem is they're so hard to ignore. This is getting to levels of ridiculousness that are almost painful.

I'm just glad it's not worse than that Irene travesty.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by immblueversion

I'm just glad it's not worse than that Irene travesty.

If you mean Erza slashing Irene's Draco meteor to pieces on a dead arm yea i actually this is worse. Acnologia messing around ripped Gildarts to shreds. If he's serious Jellal is pretty much as good as dead.
The whole August Zakheid situation was even more stupid. This arc is becoming as nonsensical as Naruto's ending

[cyberdemon]

after watching the anime, why could Erza go through Freed's runes during the Battle of Fairy Tail? We understand now why Natsu and Gajeel could since they were brought from the past with the use of Eclipse. Erza also came from the same time period even if Irene was pregnant with her for 400 years. She still existed back then so shouldn't the barrier have stopped her as well?

[Blueknight78]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

after watching the anime, why could Erza go through Freed's runes during the Battle of Fairy Tail? We understand now why Natsu and Gajeel could since they were brought from the past with the use of Eclipse. Erza also came from the same time period even if Irene was pregnant with her for 400 years. She still existed back then so shouldn't the barrier have stopped her as well?

you really don't understand why they could not pass, here the explanation.
the problem with "natsu" and gajeel where not because they "come from the past" but because they have "dragons" inside they bodys, then the magic don't allowed them pass since the dragons where "hundred" or thousand" years old, even if a tiny part of them, they still inside and that what was what the "rune" caught and don't allowed to pass, just because they "travelled in time" this don't means which they "aged", "time travel" don't age peoples or make them be threated as "aged", if you are a young you will be young if you are old you will be a old, because your body didn't suffer any age change you just "skip some years in time" it's like that time gap never happened for you and like the 400 years gap for them was "nothing", like if they have a "time disease" like a cancer which could have killed then after x time this cance could not "kill then if they travelled" because for them that x time never happened, they gonna still have that "X" time of life, otherwise "time travel histories could lead to the guy traveling ending "dying" because he traveled like Hundred years ahead his time where his bould could automatically age after pass the time to get on the "lost gap", or even the reverse, the guy get so young to the point of disappear just because was not born on that time.

the condition was "peoples above 60(or something like that) years old could not pass which was the case of the dragons inside them not they "ages".

[B214]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

after watching the anime, why could Erza go through Freed's runes during the Battle of Fairy Tail? We understand now why Natsu and Gajeel could since they were brought from the past with the use of Eclipse. Erza also came from the same time period even if Irene was pregnant with her for 400 years. She still existed back then so shouldn't the barrier have stopped her as well?

So i suppose your current birthday is wrong since you existed 9 months earlier.

[Krono]

Originally Posted by B214

A pretty amusing chapter if you choose to ignore it's faults.

I don't think I've seen any complaints about the chapter that aren't people either really reaching, or outright inventing something to complain about.

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by B214

So i suppose your current birthday is wrong since you existed 9 months earlier.

Erza didn't exist 9 months earlier, she existed 400 YEARS earlier

[B214]

But she wasn't born 400 years earlier.

[Clipens]

How do you think Irene will return in the story (Milky way, Historia of the dead, Surprise enchantment)?

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Did Lucy write a wrong word?

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by Clipens

How do you think Irene will return in the story (Milky way, Historia of the dead, Surprise enchantment)?

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Did Lucy write a wrong word?

She's rewriting the book of a demon, she's not going to come out unscathed from doing so

[immblueversion]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

Erza didn't exist 9 months earlier, she existed 400 YEARS earlier

A person's age is determined by the number of years after they come out of the womb, pure and simple. I highly doubt Fried was accounting for centuries-long pregnancies when he came up with the age rule, let alone the standard 9 months.

Besides, it's long past time to drop the theory that Natsu and Gajeel couldn't pass the barrier because they were 400 years old. Mashima confirmed in Volume 15's Q&A that neither of them was older than 80, and that revealing any more would be giving away "an important plot point". He further reinforced the idea by giving the other Dragon Slayers definite ages in their profiles (12 for Wendy, 19 for Sting and Rogue). With their age ruled out, the explanation of the dragons that were sealed in their bodies makes more sense because, while we don't know their dragon guardians' exact age, Irene gave us absolute proof of how long dragons can live.

So to set things straight, neither time travel nor temporal stasis has any effect on a character's biological age in this series. I know at least one translation of Chapter 530 where the King says Anna is 400 years old because she came from the past, but that's a mistake; the actual dialogue (あなたは400年前の人間) translates to "You're a human from 400 years ago". From this, we can infer that there are no plot holes surrounding Erza's ability to pass Fried's barrier.

[Krono]

I'm pretty sure Fried's barrier simply checked dates. Such as testing if someone was born before 1/1/x704 and blocking them with a message of "those over 80 may not pass". The dragon slayers and Erza all may have been conceived 400 or more years ago, but the dragon slayers were born more than 400 years ago, and Erza was born less then 20 years ago. Thus Natsu and Gajeel get blocked, but Erza does not. No need to get into theories about it being the dragons not the dragon slayers, or come up with dubious logic as to why Erza didn't get blocked despite having existed for 400 years. Fried's spell was simply checking birthdates, not the physical age of a person, or amount of time they'd existed.

[immblueversion]

Originally Posted by Krono

I'm pretty sure Fried's barrier simply checked dates. Such as testing if someone was born before 1/1/x704 and blocking them with a message of "those over 80 may not pass". The dragon slayers and Erza all may have been conceived 400 or more years ago, but the dragon slayers were born more than 400 years ago, and Erza was born less then 20 years ago. Thus Natsu and Gajeel get blocked, but Erza does not. No need to get into theories about it being the dragons not the dragon slayers, or come up with dubious logic as to why Erza didn't get blocked despite having existed for 400 years. Fried's spell was simply checking birthdates, not the physical age of a person, or amount of time they'd existed.

If you ask me, that sounds more dubious than detecting a person's physical age. What source would the runes use to determine someone's birth date?

[Ravagerblade]

Ever thought that Freeds enchantments/scripts aren't perfect?

[Clipens]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

after watching the anime, why could Erza go through Freed's runes during the Battle of Fairy Tail? We understand now why Natsu and Gajeel could since they were brought from the past with the use of Eclipse. Erza also came from the same time period even if Irene was pregnant with her for 400 years. She still existed back then so shouldn't the barrier have stopped her as well?

During the flashback Irene told she used an enchantment on Erza to stop her aging during the pregnancy (An Irene's version of Fairy Sphere).

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I think it's useless to apply the logic on Natsu, Erza or August. They are anomalies
I'm more interested in Raven Tail's imp and Franmalth's role (when and how they'll appear)

[Tuor]

Just FYI: it's called a birthday because it's the day of your birth. "Birth" is what happens when you leave the womb, not when inception occurs. The +9 months thing is nonsensical.