2010-02-19, 18:37 | Link #161 |
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I wonder if you know what you said.
Logical story progression is to have Nodame replacing Rui? Only logical if you look only for a dramatic moment. It means 1) throwing all Rui's developments in ep 2 & 3 out of window; 2) Auclair doesn't know what is best for Nodame.
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2010-02-19, 21:36 | Link #162 | |
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There are lots of ways to do that. You could, for example, have someone crash an airplane into the concert hall during Chiaki's performance, and have everybody die. The end. I wouldn't recommend that, but it is an ending. Bringing Chiaki, Nodame, and everyone else as well, to a point where Nodame plays the concert with Chiaki is another way to bring about that kind of conclusion. One that is much better than the airplane crashing option, and is also much more likely. Are those two options the only ones available? Of course not. There are infinitely many more, and some of them are probably even better. But at this moment, that's the direction my story-sense tells me things are heading in. |
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2010-02-19, 21:52 | Link #163 | |
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Well....
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2010-02-19, 21:58 | Link #164 |
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I am not questioning whom are the main characters. I am questioning how is the progression logical when it destroys buildups and plot threads of earlier episodes. Try to answer two questions: 1) does the replacement undermine Rui's developments? 2) do you think Auclair has wrong idea in Nodame's education?
Logical ending is not necessary to be a big bang, and both of them are world famous. The series only needs Nodame has a correct attitude towards music and Chiaki has a correct attitude towards Nodame. Epic is too much, bravo is good enough. Spoiler:
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2010-02-19, 22:45 | Link #165 | |
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As for #2, we don't really know the full extent of what Auclair thinks. We see what he does and we hear what he says, but we have no clue to what's going on inside his head. It looks a bit like he's trying to teach Nodame to be more like Rui and Rui to be more like Nodame, and there's really no reason why that can't fit into the concert storyline as well. |
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2010-02-20, 00:02 | Link #169 | |
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Myself is a Nodame fan, I want Nodame well and happy. However, I don't want Nodame's happiness upon others' misfortune, and paying no attention. If Rui chooses the piece because she knows Nodame likes, it's OK to trash her. But in this case, it's purely coincidence (the piece has been chosen before Nodame knows it). How noble to say "may something bad happen to Rui so Nodame can have an epic chance?"
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2010-02-20, 14:25 | Link #172 |
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Episode 6 is my favourite of the season so far. The return of the domestic violence ! It's been a while since Nodame and Chiaki spend such intimate moments together, I missed that. The tidbits about Chopin were nice, as well as the talk about the Beethoven pieces, though I must admit some of it kinda went over my head
And I'm happy about the fact they didn't make a HUGE drama out of the "Ravel dilemma". Nodame's reaction was pretty mature, she isn't as much of a bebe as some think after all, at least not anymore. This whole episode proved that. |
2010-02-20, 14:58 | Link #173 | |
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2010-02-21, 12:02 | Link #176 | |
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I also really like how selfless Chiaki was in this episode (maybe even too selfless) canceling his Italy trip to help Nodame work on her music. I guess I kind of agree with Nodame though that she needs to figure out this stuff on her own (and Chiaki has his own work to worry about) but I think she didn't have to get so angry at him. After all he was just trying to help her and when it comes to music Chiaki can't help but get absorbed like that. And being the fangirl that I am I completeley squeed at this Spoiler for Images:
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2010-02-21, 13:00 | Link #178 |
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You know I am a lot like Chiaki. I can't predict when Nodame will be upset at him. I think she will be upset at him over skipping her recital to go off with his teacher. I think she will be upset over the Rui thing. Instead she gets over these things rather quickly. Instead she is upset at Chiaki when he helps her too much.
I guess Nodame is just unpredictable like that.
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2010-02-21, 20:22 | Link #179 |
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I think her reactions to both Chiaki missing the recital and Chiaki helping out were based on a growing sense of self-worth and professional development. Recall she accepted Chiaki missing the recital because she thought (rightly) that he had a professional reason for his decision. Now she objects to Chiaki treating her like a project because she views herself as a proto-professional and expects to be seen the same way. As much as she might enjoy spending time with Chiaki working on her music, she doesn't want to return to the roles they both had in Japan. She wants him to treat her as a professional, and her entreaties to Chiaki to practice his own music indicates she intends to treat him the same way, kiss or no kiss.
Does anyone think "anything else" happened after the kiss? In our household the consensus was no.
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2010-02-21, 21:14 | Link #180 | |
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It's funny how Nodame doesn't know the extent of her own talent. She thinks she's slow to understand things while Chiaki (and Rui) seems to do it naturally. But she's wrong. While Chiaki and Rui are extremely gifted musicians, Nodame is a prodigy. She isn't at the level just because she lost many years of practice during her childhood. That's why Nodame is such an interesting character. She struggles to catch up to Chiaki, believing herself just a student, a nobody. She doesn't realize that if she was just a student, then catching up to the likes of Chiaki and Rui would be more than impossible. She's as clueless about herself as she is about Auclair...
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