To Aru Majutsu no Index Light Novel Discussion (Archives)

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by Plant42

Vol.22 is now on sale.

Though the release date is 7 Oct, we all know that in Japan this kind of merchandises always released 1-2 days before its official date.

Smiling most brilliantly at this news....

[Hell_ping]

I'm wondering, really, how much more powerful can the strong ones in the series be? This is already a series where the strong people here can be storybreakers in other stories.

I'll be laughing if Fiamma ends up saving Bardway, though that is highly unlikely.

Kamijou Faction, I believe that every single organisation has expected it. But nobody would probably expect guys to appear in it (and of all people, GOD'S RIGHT SEAT!!!)

As for spoilers, this always happens, never fails. Even if it's the world's worst secret, somebody would leak the news through something and it'll spread about everywhere.

[Miraluka]

Since this can be spoiler for the Index generic thread and there is no PSP game thread ...

Spoiler for New characters added to Index PSP game:

Itsuwa!

Misha!

ｷﾀ━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━ !!!!!

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by Soul Assassin

Spoiler for Uh huh.... ok....:

So it seems that

Touma died for the "second time," this time without any traces of his body (so it's a vague notion of whether he really died or not), but has his right hand crushed by the Archangel (Goodbye Imagine Breaker ;_; or maybe not?).

Also looks like Mikoto offered Touma assistance before the events transpired somehow but Touma refused to accept it... even with the assistance Touma's Imagine Breaker will only get in the way of making Mikoto's powers become useful.

... Can't really understand the rest of it... so this is a rough summarization of what I *can* read from Suzuku's spoiler post up there (with the help of Rikaichan of course).

EDIT: Amended.

Spoiler for rough t/l + summarization here:

Kazakiri: Beat the crap out of Fianmma (wait so that means she's less powerful than Gabriel but more than Fianmma? LOL)

Stiyl: Managed to restrain (the kanji reads "stun" but I'll use "restrain" for better comprehension anyway) Index using 3 Innocentius, forming a smoke screen as a distraction...

Accel's "forbidden move" (that's how I read 「禁断の一手」, just an interpretation) is actually magic (so that means he can now use both esper abilities and magic!?)

Mugino: ... uh, I guess the novel illustrations explains a lot - Hamadzura getting blasted by her Beam of Love XD.

Touma's hand cut of because of "Platinum Dragon Strike" appearance << ???
This time, Mikoto's only words to Touma: "Index..."

... @_@;;

Kamijou-san where did you go???

Wow........Gabriel>>Kazakiri>>Fianma? Knew that guy couldn't be more powerful than Angels...

Accelerator is now a full Angel?

[Plant42]

Originally Posted by Wilfriback

Damn, if MegaFiamma was overwhelmed, curbstomped and then raped by Aleister who in the world can face him without peeing their pants at the first fraction of second!!?!?!

This blog mention that it's quite resemble the scene where Fiamma attack Carissa in vol.18, still we need more details for this.
http://hienkyaku.blog50.fc2.com/blog-entry-1455.html

Originally Posted by Wilfriback

Since this can be spoiler for the Index generic thread and there is no PSP game thread ...

Spoiler for New characters added to Index PSP game:

Itsuwa!

Misha!

ｷﾀ━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━ !!!!!

Sweet
BTW It's say Sasha not Misha so forget for the deadly 'Sweep' and the hundred of ice wings.

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

Wow........Gabriel>>Kazakiri>>Fianma? Knew that guy couldn't be more powerful than Angels...

Accelerator is now a full Angel?

That Kazakiri and Fiamma part looks like a fake, since in this volume she's just taught Accel. for the angelic song and help him saving LO.

[Cosmic Eagle]

so wait wut why is Aleister running around in the middle of russia.

dude should be in his incubator tube :x

Hah.....you actually believed he was an invalid? Me thinks he just likes floating upside-down...

[Marka13]

Originally Posted by Wilfriback

Since this can be spoiler for the Index generic thread and there is no PSP game thread ...

Spoiler for New characters added to Index PSP game:

Itsuwa!

Misha!

ｷﾀ━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━ !!!!!

I want to pwn as Sasha!

[Hell_ping]

I'm wondering though, to float upside-down like that, wouldn't he die from blood gush to the head?

Now, to be honest, I'm not surprised that Aleister is that strong. He's the one who practically revolutionised that magic side during his time, even more than the changes in 2000 years.

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by Marka13

I want to pwn as Sasha!

Look carefully and seems Kuroko is being pwned.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Teh_Ping

I'm wondering though, to float upside-down like that, wouldn't he die from blood gush to the head?

Now, to be honest, I'm not surprised that Aleister is that strong. He's the one who practically revolutionised that magic side during his time, even more than the changes in 2000 years.

Plus beating up an already beaten up guy isn't exactly a good gauge of a person's power

Originally Posted by Plant42

Now vol.22 is an officially end for the long 'God's Right Seat' chapter(which start from vol.11) and the world will never be the same.

It's really interesting to see which direction will the world(and the war) developed for,

Indeed, with all four members losing their magic, the ultimate weapon of the Rome Catholic Church has been destroyed. Now Academy City is the number one power in the world with nobody being able to stand up to them on a military and political level.

Originally Posted by Plant42

BTW long time ago there's someone's speculation about the possibility if Fiamma will take a lead role in some part of the story(and the joke about finding and saving one loli) after he got beat up by Touma(same as Accel.)

Why does people automatically assume she would be a loli I don't see why Fiamma couldn't get a nice woman like...

Actually nvm, he'll probably just be travelling with Aurrelus. considering he's all powerless.

[LockeManuel]

Wait, Kazakiri got pwned by Fiamma. That was a huge mistranslation.

Also, it really seems Fiamma got converted by Touma after that pawn... but then got his ass kicked by Aleister (so easily... I think Aleister has Action Replay DS with him...)
Just wait and we'll have Touma and Touma's Right Seat (without Terra)

[tsunade666]

Sasha had angelic wings = wins (the game looks nice and at the left most side it looks like railgun ova to me because of little kids and index verse doesn't have time to play with little kids)

I wonder if Aleister can pop out of no where or teleport on the spot. Because he just pop up in Russia.

EDIT: Nice KAMIjou Touma's Right seat ( - Terra + Angelerator )

Fianma already had gameshark with him now maybe Aleister just had all the cheat codes on before fighting a 1 hp only Fianma.

[Hell_ping]

So it's a just as planned case for Aleister?

Still, unless the volume proves otherwise, I don't think Fiamma went down without a fight. He had the Holy Right, which was practically a gamebreaker, even if he's weakened.

I'm expecting more focus on the Science side again, since this war between Academy City and the RCC ended with Academy City's victory, it practically sends a signal to the magic side that they are now the force to be reckoned with (like what chaos said). RCC isn't completely devastated, but the strongest forces have been beaten, so it'll be interesting to see how the Pope will revive the RCC.

I'm seeing Necessarius vs Academy City once Aleister decides that Necessarius isn't important to his plan any more (well, it's a given, but how long more?).

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by LockeManuel

Just wait and we'll have Touma and Touma's Right Seat (minus Terra...)

I don't see how they would make any difference, they're all powerless now.

Originally Posted by Teh_Ping

I'm wondering, really, how much more powerful can the strong ones in the series be? This is already a series where the strong people here can be storybreakers in other stories.

That's the funny thing, the 'normal' people powers can be considered one level weaker than the norms from other action series. But the 'Strong' people of this series are beyond broken.

Originally Posted by Teh_Ping

I'm seeing Necessarius vs Academy City once Aleister decides that Necessarius isn't important to his plan any more (well, it's a given, but how long more?).

Think about it, Necessarius was created to defeat enemy magicians. If Aleister destroys all magic from this world, what's going to happen to them? Wouldn't they lose all their political power once they're no longer needed?

Or did Laura strike some kind of deal?

[Plant42]

Now with RCC lost its strongest force and Russia's Orthodox church got pawn in the war.
The only one left to lead the magic side now is Necessarius and the Great Britain.
I wonder how will Laura handle this, she's seem to be the one that always has something up in mind which is same as Aleister.

[LockeManuel]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

I don't see how they would make any difference, they're all powerless now.

Just for laughs XD


...and regarding Itsuwa in that scan... what's with those extra-long legs?!

[Hell_ping]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

IThink about it, Necessarius was created to defeat enemy magicians. If Aleister destroys all magic from this world, what's going to happen to them? Wouldn't they lose all their political power once they're no longer needed?

Or did Laura strike some kind of deal?

From what Volume 7 says, what happens now is that Necessarius ended up leading the Anglicans, yes. Basically, Laura is the one controlling the religion in Britain, so it doesn't matter whether magic is eradicated, with Laura as head of Necessarius, they still have the political power (and it probably increased after the events in 17 and 18).

[Von Himmel]

One thing that I'm confused is that with Fiamma's ability, he should've be able to destroy Aleister with his power...I guess the hierarchy of power take place before the concept of the ability Or perhaps Aleister did something that can cancel out his ability ?

I guess I'll take this :

Plus beating up an already beaten up guy isn't exactly a good gauge of a person's power

Just wait and we'll have Touma and Touma's Right Seat (minus Terra...)

Suddenly, Touma becomes a god o.o;

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by Teh_Ping

I'm wondering though, to float upside-down like that, wouldn't he die from blood gush to the head?

Now, to be honest, I'm not surprised that Aleister is that strong. He's the one who practically revolutionised that magic side during his time, even more than the changes in 2000 years.

Damn, if MegaFiamma was overwhelmed, curbstomped and then raped by Aleister who in the world can face him without peeing their pants at the first fraction of second!!?!?!

He still got beaten to within an inch of his life......or maybe he just wanted to fake his death.....sneaky emotionless tube bastard.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Teh_Ping

From what Volume 7 says, what happens now is that Necessarius ended up leading the Anglicans, yes. Basically, Laura is the one controlling the religion in Britain, so it doesn't matter whether magic is eradicated, with Laura as head of Necessarius, they still have the political power (and it probably increased after the events in 17 and 18).

But the reason why they had power over the rest of the Church was because they were the ones responsible for fighting against magicians and over a period of time and several deeds power began to shift away from the main branch because every decision that was to be made had to go through them first. But if there's no longer any magic than there wouldn't be any need for a 'necessary evil' and power would began to return back to the main branch.