2009-10-09, 22:40 | Link #2381 | |
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2009-10-09, 23:03 | Link #2382 | |
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I can't believe Dlanor is losing to Erika. Oh well, at least Battler and Beato got 1 and 2 locked up.
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2009-10-09, 23:08 | Link #2383 | |
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I think a lot of these votes are hinged on the anime viewers too. That's why Eva-Beatrice is so high, despite not even appearing after EP 3 are a character in game (no, EP 4 does not count guys) |
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2009-10-09, 23:35 | Link #2386 |
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I had a long flight home and was trying to get the overall concept of Umineko and what is the main purpose of Beatrice and Battler and the whole story, not messing with the details too much.
So... yeah, this is the effect. I wonder if it may be true (you just can't prove much of it, but you also can't find the way to just deny it - devil's proof ) Spoiler for what is Umineko about - all episodes:
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2009-10-10, 06:18 | Link #2389 | |
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Beato is not some metaphor or an idea-Somebody named Beatrice exists on Rokkenjima in 1986. Battler saw her perfectly in the rain! Why do people think there was something obscuring him recognizing her face?! |
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2009-10-10, 07:00 | Link #2390 | |
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2009-10-10, 07:22 | Link #2391 | |
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Why does everyone else rule out Beato disguising as somebody else? As I have drummed on repeatedly, Beato is probably disguising as Kumasawa, who has also lived "remarkably" like Kinzo. |
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2009-10-10, 07:38 | Link #2392 | ||
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night the middle of a heavy rain far also it was battler alone it was just for a brief moment The scenario you imagine on the other hand means that someone was able to maintain such disguise at close range in perfect light conditions consistently over a long time span in presence of many different people Your theory isn't impossible, but there's no way the probability is the same
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2009-10-10, 08:53 | Link #2393 | ||
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i'm not gonna rule out the first one utill somebody says in red that a woman like that does't exist on the island. but i'm not gonna accept it either untill i/you can provide a good theory as to how she fits in the 17 persons limit. it's just possible. (as for the Kumasawa disguise, Jan-Poo already explained it good enough.) i think if he really couldn't see her well because of rain/distance it would be mentioned in the story. but than again it's not impossible he just assumed it's Beatrice simply because of the situation (actualy he did ) and if he was already sure he's gonna meet her he wouldn't be like "oh it's beatrice... or maybe not... can't see well, but she kinda looks liek the portrait...or maybe not...", and there's no better explaination than disguise so far. |
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2009-10-10, 09:03 | Link #2394 | |
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It is only natural that Battler would be a lot quicker to asume that there really is a Beatrice
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2009-10-10, 09:09 | Link #2395 | |
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Kumasawa also has a nasty habit of appearing unexpectedly(Perhaps to refresh her makeup?) and surviving until at least the eighth twilight. Obviously things would be too suspicious if the kindly old lady really survived to the very end, right? |
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2009-10-10, 12:43 | Link #2396 |
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Wouldn't the person who killed "Kumasawa" find it awfully odd that she appeared to be someone else? Or the people who find her body? How come the person disguising as her never dies unless in Kumasawa's appearance? The whole notion is just absurd.
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2009-10-10, 13:47 | Link #2397 | |
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Episode 3 had a wrench thrown in it by Kanon or someone else figuring out Beatrice was disguised as Kumasawa. They struggle, Beato gets away just barely, but she loses the stakes, which the other culprit then tosses in with the murders. As a little consolation prize, she paints the account number on the parlor door. |
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2009-10-10, 14:16 | Link #2398 | |
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2009-10-10, 14:23 | Link #2399 | |
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It's been said it's remarkable she's still alive. And as I mentioned, wanting Battler to feel her breasts, while a supposed joke, could count as a hint. Just a face mask with a wig could easily hide Beato's hair and make her look sufficiently old. Maybe she wasn't dressed up yet when Kyrie noticed her? Why would she need to hop out of disguise? Just look horrified, and almost nobody suspects the kindly old lady. |
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2009-10-10, 15:04 | Link #2400 | |
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