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Ghoststaker · 2014-09-24, 12:02

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Originally Posted by Harens

I was reading the translated chapters, and, although it was really funny when the talk about Momonga's heirs started, I was also confused. How would that work exactly? He's a Lich. I read in here that he

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, but that wouldn't work would it? I'm fuzzy about the rules of this world.

Looking forward to reading more though.

Honestly I'm not sure how he is going to get heirs... With him being a giant skeleton and all.

But as far as I know, later on he uses a mixture of wearing armor and some illusion magic to cover his body, so that his skeleton bits don't show. Then he starts traveling with a human party for a bit.

Harens · 2014-09-24, 12:07

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Originally Posted by Ghoststaker

Honestly I'm not sure how he is going to get heirs... With him being a giant skeleton and all.

But as far as I know, later on he uses a mixture of wearing armor and some illusion magic to cover his body, so that his skeleton bits don't show. Then he starts traveling with a human party for a bit.

Really? What about his harem(Albedo and the vampire-girl as far as I know)? Do they go with him?

Ghoststaker · 2014-09-24, 12:30

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Originally Posted by Harens

Really? What about his harem(Albedo and the vampire-girl as far as I know)? Do they go with him?

I didn't read too far forward... (spoils motivation to translate)...

But... Afterwards Momonga goes outside to help a village, saying that it was under protection of Ainz Ooal Gown. His purpose was to spread the word of AOG to check if there are any other REAL players in this world. So then he starts travelling for awhile with another group, while Albedo is still in Nazarick doing the security upgrade and all that. Not sure when he meets the adventurers though...

Is what I can... Erm.. Infer from glancing at previous forum posts lol

Harens · 2014-09-24, 12:41

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Originally Posted by Ghoststaker

I didn't read too far forward... (spoils motivation to translate)...

But... Afterwards Momonga goes outside to help a village, saying that it was under protection of Ainz Ooal Gown. His purpose was to spread the word of AOG to check if there are any other REAL players in this world. So then he starts travelling for awhile with another group, while Albedo is still in Nazarick doing the security upgrade and all that. Not sure when he meets the adventurers though...

Is what I can... Erm.. Infer from glancing at previous forum posts lol

Oh, cool. I have mixed feelings about another player stuck there. It would be kind of hard to believe that there was another case like Momonga's where he stays until the last moment because of how attached he is to that place. But it would still be nice to get some explanation as to what happened, maybe he finds a GM or something...

Ap1001 · 2014-09-24, 14:28

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Originally Posted by The_Codfish

Oh, it's cool to see that there are LN translations beyond what Imoutololicious has. Currently going through the WN myself and I've already noticed the differences, so it's nice that there are LN translations as well.

Got a question; what are the levels of all of Momonga's Guardians? The max cumulative level is 700 and, including Albedo, there are 9 Guardians?

All guardains are level 100, so that makes about 10+ NPCs that are max leveled out, the rest are around 60 or so. This is one reason Momonga is really worried about their loyalty. Also the 700 is for normal guilds, but Momonga's guild kind of cheated using a world class item, so they had more levels to use. (they are considered by normal players to be evil overlords hoarding treasures, so they needed better security.)

Namorax · 2014-09-24, 16:17

Well, I dont really understand the Charactersheets anyway. Is there a difference between level and class levle?

Ap1001 · 2014-09-24, 17:13

The total level is 100 per character
there are two ways one can spend the levels, either on class or species.
putting level in class, allows one to better use class skills, for example Momonga's rank 9 class skill "heart control" allows instant kills. Class can be learned.
putting level in species allows on to better use species skill, for example guardian of the vault, Pandora's actor has high species level, so he can use high rank shape shifting that is his species skill. Species skills can not be learned.

yuzen003 · 2014-09-24, 18:31

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Originally Posted by Namorax

There's a character (At least I think its a character) listed with the translated name of "ivileye".
We can't just (literally) take that, but thanks for pointing that out nonetheless.

Late response but "ivileye" is literally the official translation in the character sheets

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The_Codfish · 2014-09-24, 22:56

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Originally Posted by Namorax

They appear have an average level of around 35-40 (with one exception of 65), but I might be wrong

Some of them are apparently level 100 NPCs (Momonga's Desperation Aura being cited as normally not being able to affect them, except inside his guild dungeon) and none of the characters (Aura, Mare, Sharutia, Cocytus, Demiurge, Albedo) were below level 40 (Demiurge's voice only dominates those at level 40 and below). And it'd be silly if the "Lord of Terror" Sebastian wasn't level 100. Which leaves Gargantia and Victim (although there may be special rules for them?).

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All guardains are level 100, so that makes about 10+ NPCs that are max leveled out, the rest are around 60 or so. This is one reason Momonga is really worried about their loyalty. Also the 700 is for normal guilds, but Momonga's guild kind of cheated using a world class item, so they had more levels to use. (they are considered by normal players to be evil overlords hoarding treasures, so they needed better security.)

Ah, that answers my question. Thanks for answering.

CoCayn · 2014-09-25, 01:08

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Originally Posted by The_Codfish

Some of them are apparently level 100 NPCs (Momonga's Desperation Aura being cited as normally not being able to affect them, except inside his guild dungeon) and none of the characters (Aura, Mare, Sharutia, Cocytus, Demiurge, Albedo) were below level 40 (Demiurge's voice only dominates those at level 40 and below). And it'd be silly if the "Lord of Terror" Sebastian wasn't level 100. Which leaves Gargantia and Victim (although there may be special rules for them?).

Ah, that answers my question. Thanks for answering.

Lord of Terror is not Sebastian's title, he is an Area Guardian.

Spoiler for His true form:

The_Codfish · 2014-09-25, 01:58

Oh, could you pass the link to the wiki? I wanna look it up too.

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Momonga asks Albedo to ask all the six guardians to come meet him in the Arena in an hour and she consents and leaves.

Just to clarify, there are 8 Floor Guardians and Sebastian is one of them? And Albedo is the Guardian Commander? Anyway, I'm kind of confused why Momonga even brought up the 'Lord of Terror' if he only asked for 6 of the 8 Floor Guardians to come.

CoCayn · 2014-09-25, 02:28

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Originally Posted by The_Codfish

Oh, could you pass the link to the wiki? I wanna look it up too.

Just to clarify, there are 8 Floor Guardians and Sebastian is one of them? And Albedo is the Guardian Commander? Anyway, I'm kind of confused why Momonga even brought up the 'Lord of Terror' if he only asked for 6 of the 8 Floor Guardians to come.

There is the link: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%...8F%E8%AA%AC%29

The Floor Guardians are:
1-3 Floor Sharutia
4 Floor Gargantua
5 Floor Cocytus
6 Floor Mare and Aura
7 Floor Demiurge
8 Floor Victim

And Albedo is the overall Commander of the guardians.

There are tons of other Area Guardians inside the floors and Lord of Terror is one of them. They were talking about Area Gardians when Demiurge mentions his Ally on the floor, the Lord of terror.

Sebastian is "just" the head butler, but he is one of the strongest in Nazarick.

The_Codfish · 2014-09-25, 02:58

Ah, so that was Demiurge speaking. It was a bit unclear to me in the text.

Is Sebastian an Area Guardian himself? He seems boss-like.

CoCayn · 2014-09-25, 03:05

Sebastian was created as the last defense line to buy time against player invasions. In Yggdrassil, he was only staying in the throneroom with the maids doing nothing. Enemy players never got to the throne room, so he never saw any actions.

He is under the direct command of the guild members

morli · 2014-09-25, 04:23

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Originally Posted by CoCayn

The Floor Guardians are:
1-3 Floor Sharutia
4 Floor Gargantua
5 Floor Cocytus
6 Floor Mare and Aura
7 Floor Demiurge
8 Floor Victim

I almost mistoke Cocayn as the 5 floor guardian.

And the 8th guardian's name is Victim, really? It isn't sarcasm?

CoCayn · 2014-09-25, 04:38

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Originally Posted by morli

I almost mistoke Cocayn as the 5 floor guardian.

And the 8th guardian's name is Victim, really? It isn't sarcasm?

Hmm... Becoming an half-ant, half-mantis with four arms does sound interesting

I think Victim's speciality is Doppelgänger. So he probably mind fucks with people when he transforms into them by showing who the victim is lol

The_Codfish · 2014-09-25, 05:39

The wiki says that Victim doesn't really have any offensive power and that when he dies, there's some special imprisoning effect? So Victim seems like a punching bag enemy to draw aggro from any invaders and let the other NPC minions on its floor do the main fighting.

CoCayn: Oh, special NPCs the guild created don't necessarily have to be Guardians themselves? Is that it?

But do the maids really do nothing? Not the miscellaneous maids like the first one Momonga met on the way to the throne, but the battle maids following Sebastian around? I thought they were like Sebastian's personal mob?

I like Cocytus' design the most out of everyone. ICE MANTIS.

Namorax · 2014-09-25, 11:55

At least ingame they never had the chance to do anything. This might change in later chapters, but in Yggdrasil, all they did was walking around (normal maids) or waiting for enemy players to appear (Sebastion and the Pleiades).

That was the reason why Momonga told them to follow him: nobody outside Nazarick even knows that they exist.

The_Codfish · 2014-09-25, 12:04

Oh, I know that, I'm just asking what kind of NPC they are. It seems there are non-combat NPCs, like the one blonde maid wandering around? And then there are the NPCs who act as creeps and bosses for the guild's dungeon. My initial question was whether or not Sebastian was a Floor or Area Guardian, but it seems like he's just a really powerful wandering enemy? With his own entourage of minions to take into battle.

Ghoststaker · 2014-09-25, 12:57

Well apparently, Sebastian and the maids were meant to be the last line of defense, if ever the 8th floor was ever broken through. During the game he was situated between the 9th and 10th floor (Player Quarters to Throne Room). So he and the maids would kind of be the "Final" boss before they reach the throne room and fight with AOG.

2014-09-24, 16:17	Link #386
Namorax Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014	Well, I dont really understand the Charactersheets anyway. Is there a difference between level and class levle?

2014-09-24, 17:13	Link #387
Ap1001 Shikigami of the sages Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Forest of magic, within the stomach of a mushroom	The total level is 100 per character there are two ways one can spend the levels, either on class or species. putting level in class, allows one to better use class skills, for example Momonga's rank 9 class skill "heart control" allows instant kills. Class can be learned. putting level in species allows on to better use species skill, for example guardian of the vault, Pandora's actor has high species level, so he can use high rank shape shifting that is his species skill. Species skills can not be learned.

2014-09-25, 02:58	Link #393
The_Codfish Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013	Ah, so that was Demiurge speaking. It was a bit unclear to me in the text. Is Sebastian an Area Guardian himself? He seems boss-like.

2014-09-25, 03:05	Link #394
CoCayn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Weltenbummler	Sebastian was created as the last defense line to buy time against player invasions. In Yggdrassil, he was only staying in the throneroom with the maids doing nothing. Enemy players never got to the throne room, so he never saw any actions. He is under the direct command of the guild members

2014-09-25, 05:39	Link #397
The_Codfish Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013	The wiki says that Victim doesn't really have any offensive power and that when he dies, there's some special imprisoning effect? So Victim seems like a punching bag enemy to draw aggro from any invaders and let the other NPC minions on its floor do the main fighting. CoCayn: Oh, special NPCs the guild created don't necessarily have to be Guardians themselves? Is that it? But do the maids really do nothing? Not the miscellaneous maids like the first one Momonga met on the way to the throne, but the battle maids following Sebastian around? I thought they were like Sebastian's personal mob? I like Cocytus' design the most out of everyone. ICE MANTIS.

2014-09-25, 11:55	Link #398
Namorax Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014	At least ingame they never had the chance to do anything. This might change in later chapters, but in Yggdrasil, all they did was walking around (normal maids) or waiting for enemy players to appear (Sebastion and the Pleiades). That was the reason why Momonga told them to follow him: nobody outside Nazarick even knows that they exist.

2014-09-25, 12:04	Link #399
The_Codfish Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013	Oh, I know that, I'm just asking what kind of NPC they are. It seems there are non-combat NPCs, like the one blonde maid wandering around? And then there are the NPCs who act as creeps and bosses for the guild's dungeon. My initial question was whether or not Sebastian was a Floor or Area Guardian, but it seems like he's just a really powerful wandering enemy? With his own entourage of minions to take into battle.

2014-09-25, 12:57	Link #400
Ghoststaker Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014	Well apparently, Sebastian and the maids were meant to be the last line of defense, if ever the 8th floor was ever broken through. During the game he was situated between the 9th and 10th floor (Player Quarters to Throne Room). So he and the maids would kind of be the "Final" boss before they reach the throne room and fight with AOG.