[MANGA] Bleach Chapter 479 Discussion

[prakash123]

Originally Posted by Kafriel

Seconded.

I thought Kensei was dead lol...no idea about the others, I had assumed we'd never be seeing any of them again, Kubo-style.

Where to? Don't think she has anywhere else to go...and that goodbye speech seemed kinda final.

I actually liked this chapter. Renji's greeting was funny, Ichigo finally didn't go to SS to bitch about something and I have confidence saying this chapter was the epilogue to the Xcutioners arc.

Three weeks break, Kubo must be short on whatever he smokes

well i dunno where to but there was the ripple effect thingy below her feet

[prakash123]

anyway whats with bleach return in issue #11

[Kafriel]

Originally Posted by prakash123

well i dunno where to but there was the ripple effect thingy below her feet

The way I see it she jumped really high. Remember what Ginjou said that happens when a human falls from a very high place? Her words seemed like last words too, so...

There's a 3-week break btw.

[Jouten]

I have to say I liked the way he got his powers in the Invading Gotei 13 filler arc better (I really recommend you to watch it)

This week was another "meh..." chapter. I mean I knew nothing exciting would happen as the fight is over, but still I expected at least SOMETHING...

So we're back to status quo?

[Kafriel]

So we're back to status quo?

So it would seem...Ichigo with powers back, going to SS for a cup of tea, whoever survived disappeared.

[Tenza-Zangetsu]

hopefully bleach will make a comeback with the new arc ~.~

[sayde]

Originally Posted by Kafriel

Humans can't go into Soul Society, if he used the senkaimon then he must be in spirit form. Thus I deduct that he is back to how he was, human body (powerless because FB was mostly stolen) but full shinigami powers once he leaves it.

Point taken. However, humans can use the senkaimon through the use of Reishihenkanki (which converts solid matter into spirit particles). So since we're not given the specifics of Ichigo's arrival into SS, its possible that Ichigo might've been able to use Reishihenkanki w/ Urahara's help.

[Kafriel]

^ Indeed, but whatever means he used, I doubt he actually entered SS with his human body while using his shinigami powers. I think that was the question at hand...

[itachi-san314]

I know it's never a good idea to assume someone is dead in this manga without having incontrovertible evidence and proof in the dialogue, but I can't see any meaning behind riruka's scene other than her killing herself. her dialogue was a farewell speech. If she was intended to live and used the fullbring air-stepping move, then there should have been a city and buildings in front of her to imply she was going somewhere and had a future. it was just a ledge and the sky... kinda foreboding imagery.

I seriously doubt we will ever see her again and it just adds further meaninglessness to this entire arc. she was a character I really wanted to stick around. her personality would have clashed nicely with various others' personalities. but oh well... pretty crappy ending all around as far as the fullbringers go. I'm guessing the producers wanted them gone and forgotten. if she does come back in the future it will be nice, but it will render this farewell scene as pure nonsense imo.

I am loving the vizoreds as captains though. that should be hilarious at times. and just plain good to see after all they went through. come on, good story please!

[Jouten]

Originally Posted by itachi-san314

I know it's never a good idea to assume someone is dead in this manga without having incontrovertible evidence and proof in the dialogue, but I can't see any meaning behind riruka's scene other than her killing herself. her dialogue was a farewell speech. If she was intended to live and used the fullbring air-stepping move, then there should have been a city and buildings in front of her to imply she was going somewhere and had a future. it was just a ledge and the sky... kinda foreboding imagery.

I seriously doubt we will ever see her again and it just adds further meaninglessness to this entire arc. she was a character I really wanted to stick around. her personality would have clashed nicely with various others' personalities. but oh well... pretty crappy ending all around as far as the fullbringers go. I'm guessing the producers wanted them gone and forgotten. if she does come back in the future it will be nice, but it will render this farewell scene as pure nonsense imo.

I am loving the vizoreds as captains though. that should be hilarious at times. and just plain good to see after all they went through. come on, good story please!

This is making me think, too. The first thing I thought when I saw Riruka on the building was: "So what? Is she gonna kill herself now" And I'm still not sure about it, but after seeing the Fullbringer light when she jumps and after she vanishes made think she just disappeared and didn't jump down. If she killed herself I don't understand why...

[sayde]

Originally Posted by Kafriel

^ Indeed, but whatever means he used, I doubt he actually entered SS with his human body while using his shinigami powers. I think that was the question at hand...

That's why I brought up the point I did. Because depending on the method used to enter SS, he could've been able to enter SS as a shinigami in his human body. So we wouldn't be able to use his arrival into SS as evidence to decide once and for all whether or not Ichigo's soul needs to leave his body to go shinigami.

[Kafriel]

Doesn't his body get disintegrated/transmogrified into spirit particles in the first place? I wouldn't say he's going to SS with his human body in any case, but I might be wrong, my Bleach physics are rusty

[Alchemist007]

The physics depend on Kubo's mood for recollecting them.

[sayde]

Originally Posted by Kafriel

Doesn't his body get disintegrated/transmogrified into spirit particles in the first place? I wouldn't say he's going to SS with his human body in any case, but I might be wrong, my Bleach physics are rusty

Well if you put that way, then yes. He's entering SS with a spiritual body one way or another. Its just a question of whether he's still leaving behind his physical body in the world of the living in the process or not. For Kon's sake (remember this guy Kubo?) I hope your assumption's right Kafriel. The poor guy should have at least some opportunities to leave that stuffed body of his.

[Sabaku Kyu]

Ok. So this chapter answered my question about what happened to Ginjou's body. I guess he really is dead then, forreals. Why SS is hanging onto his corpse is beyond me but I can only hope it has something to do with Mayuri and his research. Noticed he wasn't at the captain's meeting and we never did find out what he brought back from HM. Guess we'll find out something in 3 weeks.

And Kensei's alive...so that's great.

Originally Posted by SamuiFuyu

I have a question that's been on my mind since Ichigo got his powers back. Is he now a full human with Shinigami powers? Or is he just a Shinigami? Because before, he had to leave his living body to be a Shinigami, but now, has anyone seen or heard about a body after gaining the new powers?

Is he stuck like this? Can he simply turn them on and off at will? And if he is a human with power, will the whole Fullbring "Remember, your body is living, so you have limitations..." thing play a role?

Although somehow, I feel Kubo will forget about all of it quickly...

I think he's like Ginjou now. A shinigami with traces of fullbring. I have a feeling Kubo will quitely sweep the whole leaving the body thing under the rug. That bit was starting to get old.

[Chiisai Kuma]

meh, i dont even mind anymore about the break, (though in 2 weeks i'll probably start going into withdrawl)
on a side note, it took me over 2 years of wearing him down but i finally got my best friend watching and starting to get hooked on Bleach. . he's also starting to listen to eyeshine ( ichigo english VA's band)

[rei_ayanami17]

good for Riruka not to join Ichigo's group otherwise she'll get targeted by Kubo to be the next damsel in distress for the next arc.....sigh -_-

nice to see all the Captains and new(?) Captains,hmmm....i'm confused, does Gotie13 bring Ginjou's human flesh body to SS or is it just his soul? (Ichigo said he'll bury him in the human world)........Inoue, Chad and Ishida enter SS with human flesh body before, right? so it's possible for SS to do that.......that's why, i first thought Ichigo will resurrect Ginjou when he demand the Gotei13 to give back Ginjou's corpse but not possible? since Ginjou is JUST A SUBSTITUTE SHINIGAMI.....


argh, 3 weeks haitus?!?, Kubo surely ran out of ideas since the Christmas week and new years's week is not enough to think and come up a great story.......darn it! Bring back Aizen now

[Om Nerabdator]

Originally Posted by Kafriel

I had assumed we'd never be seeing any of them again, Kubo-style.

yeah we still dont know wat the hell happened to nel

[kitten320]

Originally Posted by Chiisai Kuma

meh, i dont even mind anymore about the break, (though in 2 weeks i'll probably start going into withdrawl)
on a side note, it took me over 2 years of wearing him down but i finally got my best friend watching and starting to get hooked on Bleach. . he's also starting to listen to eyeshine ( ichigo english VA's band)

You are a sadist, making your friend to watch something so painful... Well as long as he stops on SS arc or beginning of HM arc then he might be safe.

[Chiisai Kuma]

he's gone so far as he's started the bounnt arc, i did advise him not to watch filler and that it does turn to crap after the ss arc. what he does with his internet time is not my problem