2010-08-29, 10:25 | Link #202 | |
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2010-08-29, 10:58 | Link #204 | |
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The doctor never said that being a Haki user was a requirement. He simply said that all VAs are able to utilize it. There IS a difference. Remember, it's still uncertain whether or not the current 3 admirals are Haki users themselves (they COULD be, but their Logia powers probably compensate for their inability to use it). Anyway, going back to the Zoro situation, I'm actually reminded of how james0246 came up with the theory of him training under a master swordsman when the Sabaody arc was running a couple years back. I recall being skeptical of the idea for a while, but came to accept it over time (like around the time the Impel Down arc was running). Heh, it's funny that james' theory technically came true after all (though I think the master swordsman he had in mind was Mihawk's sensei or something)..... BTW, since Zoro's training under Mihawk, I hope this means that he'll finally improve his single-sword skills. That's pretty much the biggest drawback to his fighting style so far. In fact, I always imagined that Zoro's final battle would involve two of his swords getting broken/lost, forcing him to fight with the weapon that was left behind by his earliest rival...... |
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2010-08-29, 11:24 | Link #205 | |
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2010-08-29, 13:29 | Link #206 | |
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Thank god I work 6 days/w, at least it will keep me occupied. I don't think I'd be able to handle this if I was still a NEET. Four weeks without OP!!!
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2010-08-29, 13:33 | Link #207 | |
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Recall when Whitebeard attacked the platform with his quake powers; the admirals blocked the attack and were seen just standing there with arms out stretched and the hands out. How did they block the attack? no real sign of their devil fruit being used... i believe the answer would be that they used their combined Haki to block the attack Also recall when Vista cut into Akainu's neck... Akainu commenting that he was using Haki and yet the attack was not enough to negate his devil fruit to the point that it would do real damage. So why didn't vista's Haki work to allow him a solid hit? frankly i've been going with the theory that a logia user can counter haki with haki in order to help make sure his powers keep working as they are supposed to atleast to a limited extent. |
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2010-08-29, 13:50 | Link #208 |
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yes, pretty evident by now Admirals can use Haki and most likely having a strong enough armor haki of your own can allow to negate opponents haki attack, which would've otherwised dealt damage to your 'invulnerable' DF body
in the latter case BB's DF gets bonus points - it'll disable everything whether you like it or not (I assume haki can't allow to negate that effect .. it just deals or negates pure damage .. like an aura around the fist/weapon or your body), allowing him to blast you with a gun or give a quake to the face .. of course it requires keeping physical contact and I assume focus too (after WB slashed BB, the latter lost it and WB regained his quakes) .. still, the pros outweigh the cons and there's probably a reason BB said Yami Yami is considered the strongest DF .. with a logia body if you have a strong armor haki you can negate damage to yourself even from haki users (like Akainu from Vista) and it takes haki from the likes of WB to damage you .. and people with WB's haki - you can probably count them on one hand - Shanks, other Emperors, Rayleigh ? Luffy eventually |
2010-08-29, 13:58 | Link #209 |
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When 2 fighters meet, their Haki clash, who ever gets damaged depends on the difference of the power of their Haki.
'Armour Haki' is what we're talking about in this case, if you smash 2 pieces of armour together, one made of steel, another made of bronze, the bronze armour will be dented because the steel is tougher. Depending on how much will you put into your attacks and how much will your opponent has for defense, Haki will decide the outcome.
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2010-08-29, 16:13 | Link #210 |
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maybe we can see it as Armor Haki v mantra-haki in the fight between WB v Aokiji in the last war when WB try to attack/stabbing Aokiji with his spear+armor haki... Aokiji was aware enough because he use mantra-haki so he manage to survive/evading the attack... same thing goes to when the div commander attacking Akainu...
but for the armor haki v armor haki we clearly can feel it int the clash between WB and Shanks... though we didn't see it happen we did see it split the sky....
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2010-08-29, 22:30 | Link #212 | ||
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After re-reading the Sabaody Isle arc, I honestly cannot express how much I am looking forward to the release of the next chapter.
The whole slavery/racism theme should finally be put to an end in the next 20 chapters or so when they re-unite at Sabaody. I expect the Fishman Island arc to tie in with the Tenryubito, and the Tenryubito theme should be finished before we get to the New world, or else it will feel like a loose end. Quote:
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2010-08-29, 23:36 | Link #214 |
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It would be delightfully random if, upon their return, the Straw Hats immediately ended up taking down the World Nobles again. That would just be the ultimate insult to the government if they could get away with that twice. What would make it even better, but I seriously doubt happening, is if they brought down the Admiral that got sent in to deal with them. Maybe if Smokey went up several ranks in the meantime. He's due for a loss to Luffy, so that might work out without sacrificing the top-tier Admirals we have now.
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2010-08-29, 23:47 | Link #215 |
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I think we are all forgetting one key element of this time skip, in fact the main reason for the time skip: this gives Oda an excuses to give Keimi/Camie legs so she can join the crew. Mark my words that is the true reason for the time skip (all that "training" crap, and "getting stronger" could have been done in a week or under, but Keimi has to become 30 before she can get her legs, and she is clearly not 30 yet...).
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2010-08-30, 06:52 | Link #218 |
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I still can't imagine how powerful will the Straw Hats be after 2 years of (hopefully) intense training. I mean, they've gone from unknown nobodies to being world famous (at least Luffy is) and fighting the top tiers in less than a year.
Unless Oda pulls a weird one and says that they've actually been on the Grand Line for 5 years, they should be able to take on Admirals when they reunite. With training from Rayleigh (who fought on equal terms with Kizaru), Mihawk (presumably one of the strongest swordsmen in the world), Dragon and Iva (top tier Revolutionaries), Vegapunk (not directly, but still counts) - the Straw Hats should be monsters when they come out of hiding. How are the other Supernovas supposed to keep up with that? Law is chilling in the Grand Line, the others have charged without much thought into the New World - how are they going to become that much stronger? As for the new Straw Hat - he/she will have to be just as strong, so it's not that far fetched to say it's going to be Jinbei (who may tag along to "enforce" the protection on his island), Boa or some other powerful figure. Damn, this is going to be a long month - I might actually start watching the anime again (I stopped at episode 425, because I just can't wait a week for each episode, plus the Impel Down arc is my least favorite). |
2010-08-30, 07:44 | Link #219 | |
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I hope in the new world there will be more water/ship battles. For a manga about pirates, there has been little to no battles between ships or battles at sea. |
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2010-08-30, 13:41 | Link #220 |
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Given, We are going to have a one month break, I have started to read the manga since the first chapter, to pick up those litle details I could had forgot or overlooked (like Raleygh appearing in a Buggy flashback way back in chapter 19).
Is nice, I guess we can over here , if our loving mod permits, go to memory lane as well, and bring up stuff that we saw in OP before that could have some impact after timeskip.
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