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View Poll Results: Vote for your favourite(s) To Aru Majutsu no Index Characters | |||
Index | 83 | 18.95% | |
Kamijo Toma | 208 | 47.49% | |
Misaka Mikoto | 264 | 60.27% | |
Shirai Kuroko | 81 | 18.49% | |
Tsukuyomi Komoe | 31 | 7.08% | |
Himegami Aisa | 36 | 8.22% | |
Kanzaki Kaori | 107 | 24.43% | |
Styl Magnus | 35 | 7.99% | |
Tsuchimikado Motoharu | 65 | 14.84% | |
Tsuchimikado Maika | 16 | 3.65% | |
Accelerator | 172 | 39.27% | |
Misaka Sisters | 60 | 13.70% | |
Sister #10032 | 114 | 26.03% | |
Last Order (Sister #20001) | 114 | 26.03% | |
Kazakiri Hyouka | 19 | 4.34% | |
Aureolus Izzard | 11 | 2.51% | |
Misha | 23 | 5.25% | |
Doctor | 42 | 9.59% | |
Sphinx | 32 | 7.31% | |
Others (specify) | 46 | 10.50% | |
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2014-12-10, 14:45 | Link #141 | ||
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but to be honest, i would have liked him to stay a crazy OP monster, killing whoever comes to close like a dark and evil/crazy version of ollerus but this wouldnt allow him to show up this much, and...well, this isnt a story with "bad"-things |
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2014-12-10, 14:56 | Link #142 |
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@levelseven (not quoting as on a phone):
I take all of your points, they make sense, even if I don't agree. On the Railgun series though, do we take that as true canon though? It is kind of fan service like. I only really enjoyed the first part of Railgun S. Series 1 was more like a teen girls social drama with a bit of light action thrown in. But anyway, I got the emotional growth from index and while I get what you're saying with what Railgun shows, it doesn't quite mesh with index.* I know that if its written from an official source, you can't deny it, but if it conflicts or doesn't match what you've seen already, I'd imagine the first has to stand. *shes kind if warmer (generally and towards him) in Railgun overall. |
2014-12-10, 15:14 | Link #143 |
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I'd add (in response to you saying that touma x Misaka won't ever happen):
expecting any relationship with Touma and one of the girls is pointless, he won't even think about it unless they go Shirai on his ass and if one of them were to do so, it would be whoever got in there first. He would jump at a chance of any of them... He's a 16 year old boy afterall. Last edited by Fizix; 2014-12-10 at 15:26. |
2014-12-11, 05:49 | Link #144 | |
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2014-12-11, 08:07 | Link #145 |
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Hmmm... I would hope not too... Isn't she only a scrape above Last Order in age? She's introduced as an early teen and I don't think any other age has been given? If it has I missed it.
Maybe I should rephrase; any of them that wouldn't result in him signing the naughty boys register. I was discounting any characters who I consider too young as a given. But none the less, my comment was a joke so exceptions such as Lessar can fly. As an aside, Lessar is another character I like a lot, I like characters with some personality/attitude/spunk/etc |
2014-12-12, 05:02 | Link #147 | |
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But anyway, thanks for confirming her age, Lessar being 12-13 removes her from my comment (even though it wasn't entirely serious in the first place) as it would be weird if he even considered it. "Any of them" did not include anyone who would be grim. Last edited by Fizix; 2014-12-12 at 05:27. |
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2014-12-13, 16:56 | Link #148 |
I’m sorry, Kamijou-san!!
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This is in response to an earlier post by Fizix calling Touma generic:
Sorry, I would like to step in briefly. Touma is my favorite fictional character so I'd like to clarify a few things. First, let's agree that in order to demonstrate that a character follows a generic archetype you have to prove two things: 1. You need to prove that they have at least a few generic character traits. 2. You need to prove that they have few, if any, unique or rare character traits. If you can't prove both of these things, then you can't demonstrate that said character follows a generic archetype. One other thing that I want to mention is that Touma has a lot of other aspects to his character which are largely NOT found in most works of fiction. So I'm not really sure I agree with you...? I also believe that the Magic Side is written very well starting either with volume 13/20 or with NT volume 2, take your pick. Edit: I also agree with Fisix that Misaka has much more character development and worth than most people on this forum give her credit for. Even if many of her fans may appreciate her character for different reasons, it isn't false to say that she has a lot of meaningful character development. And @Fisix: If you haven't read the Railgun Manga, I recommend you try doing that. It's like the Railgun Anime, but without the teen girls social drama dynamic that you criticize, and the second arc of Railgun S which many people on this side of the To aru threads, dislike. Also, what the manga shows about the relationship between them or whatever is very different from what the anime shows because that isn't really canon, while the manga is, and it is largely (or even completely) consistent with the Index novels/anime on those criteria.
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2014-12-13, 17:47 | Link #149 | |
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Look at the first few arcs where she is the one helping others but when the problem reaches her and she can't fix it. She ended up trying to resolve it alone and not asking for help. Sure she preach that its fine to ask for help to others but what about her not asking for help? it happens in s1 anime or railgun. Heck, in sister arc she tried to shoulder the burden alone but still ended up getting helped from Kamijou and people get angry at kamijou for butting in her story. Later in the story it still the same. She's pretty consistent there in a way its actually bad and look half assed in developing. Its like she doesn't learn a thing but its not like you can blame her for not asking for help. She has a pride of level 5. She is strong and confident on herself. Plus she is also nice and kind. Doesn't want others to get hurt because of her. But lecturing others of your own character fault looks bad as a character itself. I'm not sure on the saying with the pot calling the kettle black fits here. But that's just it. She is consistent in being inconsistent. Her character might look developing but it still the same some situation also felt out of no where. Specially in the latest NT with Touma appearing out of no where there without further explanation. That is bad story writing for me.
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2014-12-13, 17:56 | Link #150 | |
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anyways lets take it over here http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...28123&page=145
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2014-12-13, 18:51 | Link #151 | |
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BUT if you look at it from the perspective of the villain. He just pop out of no where.
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2014-12-13, 20:52 | Link #152 | |
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You've just listed his personality traits and reasonings. A character can be a good example of an archetype or adhere to a general archetype, either partly or entirely and still be good or interesting. It fails when they apply to it entirely without reasoning or personality. Regarding the unique aspects, most characters have that. Last edited by Fizix; 2014-12-13 at 22:52. |
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2014-12-13, 22:57 | Link #154 | |
I’m sorry, Kamijou-san!!
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The point I was trying to make earlier is that while it is true that this character type has been done before, I haven't ever seen that hero character type done in a way that doesn't sound contrived or that actually manages to explains the character's motivations for doing what they do, and why such a character who thinks that way could exist in the first place, and seem like a realistic, rationally thinking human being who isn't just messing around for the heck of it in order to fight the enemy.
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