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View Poll Results: Full Metal Panic Invisible Victory - Episode 12 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 10 | 43.48% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 7 | 30.43% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 4 | 17.39% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 0 | 0% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 8.70% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll |
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2018-07-25, 17:18 | Link #21 | |
He Without a Title
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: The land of tempura
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Honestly NONE of those issues are typical for XEBEC (which does some pretty good stuff like Yamato 2202) unless they are given insufficient time and resources to handle the project. This isn't like the first season where GONZO was using their groundbreaking but clearly still not ready for primetime CGI. I can't speak for everyone else but for me those are the reasons why I'm very much afraid we won't be getting more FMP anytime soon. The novels have been over for ages and I can't see this season suddenly selling like gangbusters to justify a larger investment from Kadokawa. I guess we'll just have to hope that someone high up in the company likes Gatoh-san's work enough to keep funding this even if it's done in the same limited fashion as this time.
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2018-07-25, 20:18 | Link #22 |
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Join Date: Jun 2014
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We won't probably ever know the true nature of what FMPIV's production woes looked like. We can merely extrapolate based on some inferences and comments from staff members. The main issue from what I've gathered is time and the overall organization of the production was simply not there. It's painfully clear this show was not supposed to air in Spring 2018 and should have been pushed back.
Why didn't this happen? Several reasons for sure. Probably one of the biggest imo, is some contractual agreement with other companies on the production committee. Bandai is on the committee meaning they invested money into IV and obviously their return on that investment is in the form of Plastic Model kits of the AS. The anime while being its own thing is also a glorified commercial for these kits. Having delay the anime hurts the sales of the kits because Bandai releases them when there's no airing anime meaning less sales. It's all promotion. That's probably a big reason why they had to rush to get all these later episodes out despite them not being ready. Another possible reason is improper utilization of staff. Like I've noted many times, there was a fair number of Yamato staff on this show. Yamato 2202 is currently ongoing so there may have been taking staff on and off of FMPIV. This can hurt consistency and the producers were not able to efficiently handle the production. Again, all educated speculation but speculation nonetheless. What I would bet is happening right now is work being done on the later episodes that weren't as polished as the first few episodes to make them better for the home video release. Notably OMF and MMD arcs. I would expect these arcs to be a bit better looking in the BD release. OMO was comparatively much less problematic in the production value department. I'm personally curious to see if they touched up the car chase scene at all among a few other things but I can understand if they didn't do that considering the staff just finished the finale not too long ago. This isn't just FMP either, this is an industry wide problem greatly exacerbated by the pitfalls of the production committee model and the insane number of anime being produced nowadays. Some shows just can't avoid it. Marchen Madchen and BEATLESS are two from the past couple of seasons that come to mind, plagued with even worse production issues than FMP. I consider it a miracle that this show was able to finish on a relatively decent note considering all that's happened. Yeah, KyoAni would have been great but they will never touch FMP again, simply because they are more interested in acquiring their own animation property rights so they can get the most money out of producing anime rather than be a slave to a publishing company like Kadokawa. Also, they probably aren't suited for a high profile mecha series. I'm almost certain if they did it would be 3DCG based on the Chuu2 Depth of Field short which was the closest thing they've done to mecha since TSR. Anyways, long-winded comments aside, there is a stage event at the Fantasia Bunko festival for FMP in October. This comes after the complete release of all the BDs. I'm sure Gatoh will be there and he'll probably talk about the future of the franchise including what's in store for the anime. I am still convinced we will get the last season. I can't see Gatoh having committed to this season if there was not even a good chance there would be another. And from what I've seen through articles and hobby blogs, the model kits are selling out and constantly need to be restocked. I think that's a good sign that IV is being profitable. That's mainly how Gundam makes its money too and we all know how successful that franchise is. The first BD is out and we will see in a week what the sales will start to look like. Things are far from over. The franchise is still in a much better spot than it has been since TSR ended. No need to despair yet. |
2018-07-26, 01:17 | Link #23 | |
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine / Barcelona, Spain
Age: 35
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2018-07-26, 16:09 | Link #24 |
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Washington DC
Age: 29
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Kaname: Sousuke, I love you.
Sousuke: I love you, too. I've waited 10 years for them to finally admit that. Hopefully, they announce another season within a year or so. I'm ready to see this show through to the end. I wish the fight with Laevatein was longer though. I thought it was beautifully done, just a tad too short.
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But yet, FMPIV getting animated was indeed "nothing short of a miracle", a miracle I wish would happen to more completed LN series that had anime adaptations which only partly covered the original LNs' story. Animation and text are different media and both deserve to have their stories told in a complete fashion. Quote:
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All these production troubles fly in the face of what has been shown to work, however. I think a mecha show like Darling in the Franxx proved beyond any doubt that if you want people to love your show and buy lots of its discs and merchandise, make a well-written and believably-dramatic show that is animated well and keeps viewers coming back! DitF is selling pretty well. If the companies behind FMPIV had just given that show their all, they might have made a better impression on the viewers. I mean, what's the point of having full CGI mecha if you can't have them pound each other flat in spectacular knock-down drag-out fashion, something that is very difficult to do in traditional 2D animation? Nothing like that to sell model kits to the fans, and the show is supposed to be a glorified commercial too! Quote:
Maybe after all's said and done, Chidori and Sousuke should go to Amagi Briliant Park for a date! Quote:
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2018-08-08, 21:17 | Link #28 |
Gravemind
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: middle east
Age: 29
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I loved the ending.
The humor and the upbeat atmosphere capped with S1 openning.. holy smokes.. I am ecstatic. The note at the end was heartfelt too. My next goal in life: become a billionaire and have Ufotable work on Full Metal Panic! V |
2018-08-14, 02:00 | Link #29 |
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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Really miss 2nd Raid, when the directors really had time to show Sousuke's inward torment, and Chidori consistently fought back despite her feelings, rather than the clumsy flip flop between submission and defiance we see here. It's been said before, but Chidori was a subversion of the damsel in distress, who would whack her captor with a pan, or whack her rescuer for his cluelessness, until the light novels after her capture forget all about that. Of course having her friends attacked is going to knock her for a loop, but getting over that should have been handled as a process, which might include calling out all the victim blaming deployed by Kalinin, Leonard, and Chidori on herself, with the idea that she's responsible for the deaths that would happen if she tried to escape, or doesn't deserve to be free if she can't kill; that was classic psychological abuse, really should have been condemned harder. Later chapters will try to present Leonard as sympathetic and completely fail, but I'll still watch the next series of FMP, because it should have been a great story.
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2018-12-21, 00:24 | Link #30 |
Snobby Gentleman
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Monterrey, México
Age: 43
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Full Metal Panic Invisible Victory: Ending for Now
Make My Day
This isn't the end, but the lone soldier continues to throttle on when the day arrives to him claiming back the girl he loves. Sousuke Sagara you're the average Joe, and that's why makes you an interesting character watching you growing up since from the first series and now sixteen years later in Invisible Victory realized a true purpose for yourself and what does it means to truly love that special lady that turns you into a fool for love. War against Amalgam rages on, however, unfortunately, Leonard Testarossa defected with Chidori to form his own party. Nevertheless, Chidori has grown steely resolve not to get overwhelmed by her current predicament but encourages Sousuke to rescue until the end. Mithril once again has revived with most of its members welcomed back along with Sousuke plus few additions into its staff whether for better or for worse. Perhaps, Invisible Victory may not meant to become the best entry into the Full Metal Panic, nonetheless, it delivered the best full-throttle action and military drama outdoing the previous two shows that preceded it. This is not the end yet, since there are more battles and stories to tell in the horizon, waiting for that fateful day when season five comes out. |
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