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Soji · 2012-02-12, 15:13

You know ,because this author use the whole List of demons in the Ars Goetia(and we alredy say something about this) I try to found more abouth the demon(family ) istelf.
You know about the whole *The Lesser Key of Solomon*.
And it's really interesting ...I swear I will lol if we find out that Ise it's link on one of this and vali not find out XD. I mean with this author and Ise you never know.
If something like this happen would made him the same a Rias O_o.
Anyway if you guys want I can give more info demon by demon (at least from what I find out).Maybe this will help us to find out more about the Ln and the Devil family.

Kleeyook · 2012-02-12, 15:24

Sorry, I'm Buddhist who also worship Hindu devas, not Christian so I don't really know much about angel system.

Soji · 2012-02-12, 15:33

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Originally Posted by Kleeyook

Sorry, I'm Buddhist who also worship Hindu devas, not Christian so I don't really know much about angel system.

That's explain why you know so much about them.So i suppose you know about Varuna as well(but I don't think he will never be see in this ln

).
Anyway because I say about this before here some info .(after all they a link on this ln because the author use them).

Spoiler for The Lesser Key of Solomon:

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King BaelAccording to le Grand Grimoire, Bael is the head of the infernal powers. He is also the first demon listed in Wierus' Pseudomonarchia daemonum. According to Wierus, Bael is first king of Hell with estates in the east. He has three heads: a toad, a man, and a cat. He also speaks in a raucous, but well formed voice, and commands 66 legions. Bael teaches the art of invisibility, and may be the equivalent of Baal, one of the Seven princes of Hell.

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Marquis PhenexPhenex is a Great Marquis of Hell and has twenty legions of demons under his command. He teaches all wonderful sciences, is an excellent poet, and is very obedient to the conjuror. Phenex hopes to return to Heaven after 1,200 years, but he is deceived in this hope.
He is depicted as a phoenix, which sings sweet notes with the voice of a child, but the conjurer must warn his companions (for he has not to be alone) not to hear them and ask him to put in human shape, which the demon supposedly does after a certain amount of time.
Johann Weyer's Pseudomonarchia Daemonum describes this spirit as follows:
"Phoenix is a great marquesse, appearing like the bird Phoenix, having a child's voice: but before he standeth still before the conjuror, he singeth manie sweet notes. Then the exorcist with his companions must beware he give no eare to the melodie, but must by and by bid him put on humane shape; then will he speake marvellouslie of all woonderfull sciences. He is an excellent poet, and obedient, he hopeth to returne to the seventh throne after a thousand two hundredth yeares, and governeth twentie legions."
Other spellings: Pheynix, Phoenix, Phoeniex.

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Duke GremoryGremory (aka Gamory, Gemory, or Gomory) is a strong Duke of Hell that governs twenty-six legions of demons. He tells all things past, present and future, about hidden treasures, and procures the love of women, young and old, but especially maidens.
He is depicted as appearing in the form of a beautiful woman with the crown of a duchess tied around his waist, and riding a camel.

For now I give info only for the one we heard about o know(at least for what I recall) if some one want more info about other demon(that can appear here in the ln) just ask.

yuiichi9 · 2012-02-12, 16:10

There is something that fried said that could apply to asia.

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Ara ara, were you guys having sex? Then I’m sorry. Not reading the atmosphere is my charming point.

So all the members of the club except issei and kiba have trouble fighting against the members of the hero faction?

for3ver · 2012-02-12, 16:15

hmm...

off 2 school...

life is the best!

wonder what would happen if i yelled out

"Sexual desires are a source of power! It’s justice!!"

in home room...

Kleeyook · 2012-02-12, 16:20

Varuna!? I believe he's the god of rain and ocean. He's like Poseidon but he also reigns over rain.

Soji · 2012-02-12, 16:20

yuiichi9@How much I agree with yuo here. Let's hope this change in end vol 12.
Yeah I talking about you Asia.XD

for3ver@They will think you are gone crazy?

.You know only Ise can pull off this and being epic when he does.

Kleeyook @Yup him.But he had more role than that.
Just some quote that can interesting you. It's really a shame that he probally will never appear in this Ln.

Spoiler for Varuna:

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Though he only has about a dozen hymns addressed to him in the Rig Veda, Varuna seems to be one of the most important of the Vedic gods. In pre-Vedic times, he was the supreme lord of the cosmos, the keeper of divine order, the bringer of rain, the enforcer of contracts. He is called omnipotent and omniscient; he is responsible for the sun to move in the sky, for day and night to stay separate, and for the earth to keep its form; he watches the flight of every bird, is present at every gathering, and knows every thought.
His name means "he who covers", and this probably refers to the sky. Varuna is the keeper of the cosmic order, a force called rta. It is rta which keeps everything working as it should, and Varuna's role as the one who governs rta makes him very important indeed. He is very closely linked to the god Mitra. Varuna is one of the Adityas and considered to be an asura, when those beings were still god-like and had not yet degenerated into demons. He is also associated with the moon and Soma, in Soma's incarnation as the drink of the gods. Varuna is seen as a white man in golden armor riding a Makara (a sea monster), holding a noose or lasso made from a snake.
Varuna is the keeper of the celestial waters, those which flow from the openings in the sky in the form of rain. He was worshiped with veneration and a healthy amount of fear, for as an asura Varuna did have his sinister aspects and was known to punish mortals who did not keep their word. He was the cosmic hangman and his usual method of punishment was to capture the offender with his noose. He was also a lord of the dead, a position he shared with Yama, and could confer immortality if he so chose.
In Vedic times, the worship of Varuna fell off as he was supplanted by Indra as king of the gods. One possible reason for this may go back to Indra's most famous exploit. When Vritra stole all the waters of the universe, the waters which Varuna was in charge of, it was Indra who had to fight the demon and get them back. It may have been because of this that Indra was able to supplant the overlordship of Varuna and become lord of the gods himself. Varuna then became god of the oceans and rivers; still important, but with hardly the grandeur he once had. The souls of those who drowned went to him, and he was attended by the nagas.
Varuna faded away with the ascendancy of Shiva and Vishnu. His lofty position may have lived on, however, for he may be the same as the Zoroastrian supreme god Ahura Mazda.

Then again if Indra his in this ln...maybe just maybe the author will made even Varuna appear.

aigomorla · 2012-02-12, 16:24

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Originally Posted by Kleeyook

Sorry, I'm Buddhist who also worship Hindu devas, not Christian so I don't really know much about angel system.

Christian theology states there are 4 classes of angels..

Angels -> the lowest class messengers of god.

Arch Angel -> one above angel warriors of god.

Cheribum -> these are the fat pudgy babies u see with wings. Choir of God??

Seraphim -> these are masses of light... the guardians of god.

However the author meshed angels in 1 catigory... we have yet to hear of a cheribum... i would assume irina is a angel class being the lowest...

We havent seen an arch angel.. we saw a 10 wing'd fallen angel which i would believe is probably a cheribum class fallen.

And as i have been saying... the God of Oppai is probably the most powerful being in this universe.
Why? Because cold hard facts... when your God whose said to be omniscent meaning all knowing, he must of known about the god of Oppai.
Ddraig whose been around since the time of God does not know who the god of Oppai is.
The Norse God Loki, who is a God, thought ise was trolling about the God of Oppai, hence again, another god not knowing about the God of Oppai.

This theory then leads to, in order for a supreme being to stay hidden from other supreme beings, he has to be greater otherwise its existance would be known.

OR... the God of Oppai is Ise from the future who though gasper somehow broke the barrier of time and managed to lend some power + talk to him.

Finally Thors hammer had restrictions.... Ise could not use it.
The God of Oppai overwrote those restrictions and changed its program so Ise could use it... again another sign saying the God of Oppai has to be greater then the Gods.

Kleeyook · 2012-02-12, 16:26

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Originally Posted by aigomorla

Christian theology states there are 4 classes of angels..

Angels -> the lowest class messengers of god.

Arch Angel -> one above angel warriors of god.

Cheribum -> these are the fat pudgy babies u see with wings. Choir of God??

Seraphim -> these are masses of light... the guardians of god.

However the author meshed angels in 1 catigory... we have yet to hear of a cheribum... i would assume irina is a angel class being the lowest...

We havent seen an arch angel.. we saw a 10 wing'd fallen angel which i would believe is probably a cheribum class fallen.

Well, Michael is said to be an arch-angel but he curbstompped Lucifer who was a Seraph.

I suppose angel-class doesn't mean how well they can fight.

BTW, I found Hindu myth to be as boring as hell. They really loved archery that every single notable warriors are all archers. Their super weapons are all bow-related. The only sword worth mentioning in Hindu myth is the sword Ravana used to kill Jatayu. Indra has really weird weapon Vajra. Shiva uses bow mostly but he also has trident. Hanuman uses a pair of short tridents called trisula. Ramasul (Vishnu's sixth avatar) uses axe. And that's all.

Japanese myth also really loves sword. At least UK has Arthurian and Robin Hood.

fazri · 2012-02-12, 16:27

@reitou yami.
i like your magic pentagram.
power rank.
1.orpheus/great red.
2.unknown(maybe oppai god)
3 and 4 either draig or albion.
5 to 10 some gods

for3ver · 2012-02-12, 16:29

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Originally Posted by Kleeyook

Well, Michael is said to be an arch-angel but he curbstompped Lucifer who was a Seraph.

I suppose angel-class doesn't mean how well they can fight.

wait lucifer was seraphim?

aigomorla · 2012-02-12, 16:31

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Originally Posted by for3ver

wait lucifer was seraphim?

yeah he was.. lucifer was the highest tierd angel who thought god should only love him, and was jealous that god loved us people.

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Originally Posted by Kleeyook

Well, Michael is said to be an arch-angel but he curbstompped Lucifer who was a Seraph.

I suppose angel-class doesn't mean how well they can fight.

lol or luicifer was a pussy and didnt know how to fight.

But then again the bible is full of weak people curb stomping greater people.. ie.. david and Goliath.

Soji · 2012-02-12, 16:34

aigomorla@ You know in the end Oppai god= Great red lol
Plus if the oppai god cant had a harem there is no way that Ise would become the oppai god.XD

aigomorla · 2012-02-12, 16:35

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Originally Posted by Soji

aigomorla@ You know in the end Oppai god= Great red lol
Plus if the oppai god cant had a harem there is no way that Ise would become the oppai god.XD

ahhh but he never talked to the god of oppai.. he talked to a breast fairy..

ie.. could of been one of ise's harem members....

Impassive Harlequin · 2012-02-12, 16:36

Ahaha.... I finally reached this page....

Well anyway, I'm a new member, nice to meet everyone... I was supposed to post earlier but it took me a week to read through page 1 to the current page ~_~. Haha, 500+ pages isn't easy to read but it was very enjoyable and surprisingly educational

and first of all *deep bow*
thanks to nom@n, akuma and hayashi-oni for working hard to translate this novel, also for zzhk for taking time to give summaries XD

I originally had some questions but all of them have been pretty much answered after reading, in fact i learned so much other stuff too since the discussions here even had chess strategies, greek and hindu mythology, legendary wepons, old literature, IT info, even sopa and pipa, various anime, manga and LN references, politics, religion... and i was sure that at one point in time, everyone was talking about their favorite fruit... ^^

Soji · 2012-02-12, 16:40

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Originally Posted by aigomorla

ahhh but he never talked to the god of oppai.. he talked to a breast fairy..

ie.. could of been one of ise's harem members....

True .but if that is the case(and I repeat if) she had to be some one that Ise don't know yet..or maybe one of his son?

Then again would be funny if Great red is borring and choice to be the Oppai godlol. Can you image Ophus reaction on this?

aigomorla · 2012-02-12, 16:41

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Originally Posted by Soji

True .but if that is the case(and I repeat if) she had to be some one that Ise don't know yet..or maybe one of his son?

Then again would be funny if Great red is borring and choice to be the Oppai godlol. Can you image Ophus reaction on this?

GR: yo Opfus... i am the god of Oppai.
Opfus: From DxD to God and now a Troll? *sigh*

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Originally Posted by Impassive Harlequin

I originally had some questions but all of them have been pretty much answered after reading, in fact i learned so much other stuff too since the discussions here even had chess strategies, greek and hindu mythology, legendary wepons, old literature, IT info, even sopa and pipa, various anime, manga and LN references, politics, religion... and i was sure that at one point in time, everyone was talking about their favorite fruit... ^^

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... now u see why a mod got angry at us... yis yis... we try not to go off topic anymore...

fazri · 2012-02-12, 16:42

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Originally Posted by Impassive Harlequin

Ahaha.... I finally reached this page....

Well anyway, I'm a new member, nice to meet everyone... I was supposed to post earlier but it took me a week to read through page 1 to the current page ~_~. Haha, 500+ pages isn't easy to read but it was very enjoyable and surprisingly educational

and first of all *deep bow*
thanks to nom@n, akuma and hayashi-oni for working hard to translate this novel, also for zzhk for taking time to give summaries XD

I originally had some questions but all of them have been pretty much answered after reading, in fact i learned so much other stuff too since the discussions here even had chess strategies, greek and hindu mythology, legendary wepons, old literature, IT info, even sopa and pipa, various anime, manga and LN references, politics, religion... and i was sure that at one point in time, everyone was talking about their favorite fruit... ^^

welcome and good job.
salute.
there not many people do the same like you.
every one like fruits!!

Soji · 2012-02-12, 16:43

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Originally Posted by aigomorla

GR: yo Opfus... i am the god of Oppai.
Opfus: From DxD to God and now a Troll? *sigh*

Lol...and Ddraig would cry even more that the whole oppai dragon thing

fazri@Hey...I did when I come here._.then again that time the post and page where much less than now.XD

Bear Killer · 2012-02-12, 16:51

A little late to the party on this one - but I just discovered that one of my favorite voice actors, Kenta Miyake, voiced Mil-tan in Episode 6. In addition, the absolutely adorable and beloved-by-all Ayako Kawasumi voiced Susan. Great cameos in Episode 6! The casting for this anime is incredible! I was already greatly pleased with Youko Hikasa and Shizuka Itou. My dream of having Marina Inoue as Rossweisse may yet come true someday :' )

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for3ver The Lost Child Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: neverland? where ever that is..	hmm... off 2 school... life is the best! wonder what would happen if i yelled out "Sexual desires are a source of power! It’s justice!!" in home room... __________________

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Bear Killer Useless Old Man Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Spartanburg, South Carolina, United States Age: 39	A little late to the party on this one - but I just discovered that one of my favorite voice actors, Kenta Miyake, voiced Mil-tan in Episode 6. In addition, the absolutely adorable and beloved-by-all Ayako Kawasumi voiced Susan. Great cameos in Episode 6! The casting for this anime is incredible! I was already greatly pleased with Youko Hikasa and Shizuka Itou. My dream of having Marina Inoue as Rossweisse may yet come true someday :' ) __________________ *If there is a way ~ find it! If there is no way ~ make it!*

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Soji Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Europe	You know ,because this author use the whole List of demons in the Ars Goetia(and we alredy say something about this) I try to found more abouth the demon(family ) istelf. You know about the whole The Lesser Key of Solomon. And it's really interesting ...I swear I will lol if we find out that Ise it's link on one of this and vali not find out XD. I mean with this author and Ise you never know. If something like this happen would made him the same a Rias O_o. Anyway if you guys want I can give more info demon by demon (at least from what I find out).Maybe this will help us to find out more about the Ln and the Devil family.

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Kleeyook Yandere maniax Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Somewhere close to Valhalla Age: 34	Sorry, I'm Buddhist who also worship Hindu devas, not Christian so I don't really know much about angel system.

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Kleeyook Yandere maniax Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Somewhere close to Valhalla Age: 34	Varuna!? I believe he's the god of rain and ocean. He's like Poseidon but he also reigns over rain.

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fazri blacksun king Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: jakarta,indonesia	@reitou yami. i like your magic pentagram. power rank. 1.orpheus/great red. 2.unknown(maybe oppai god) 3 and 4 either draig or albion. 5 to 10 some gods

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Soji Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Europe	aigomorla@ You know in the end Oppai god= Great red lol Plus if the oppai god cant had a harem there is no way that Ise would become the oppai god.XD

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Impassive Harlequin a casual observer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Right there points	Ahaha.... I finally reached this page.... Well anyway, I'm a new member, nice to meet everyone... I was supposed to post earlier but it took me a week to read through page 1 to the current page ~_~. Haha, 500+ pages isn't easy to read but it was very enjoyable and surprisingly educational and first of all deep bow thanks to nom@n, akuma and hayashi-oni for working hard to translate this novel, also for zzhk for taking time to give summaries XD I originally had some questions but all of them have been pretty much answered after reading, in fact i learned so much other stuff too since the discussions here even had chess strategies, greek and hindu mythology, legendary wepons, old literature, IT info, even sopa and pipa, various anime, manga and LN references, politics, religion... and i was sure that at one point in time, everyone was talking about their favorite fruit... ^^