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kj1980 · 2006-11-10, 03:51

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Originally Posted by physics223

Well, most otakus wear eyeglasses from excessive exposure to H-games and anime (I should think so)

eh? Most people have bad eyesight starting from child age - I don't think even kids are allowed to play ero-games more so with a big bold letters telling them that it's for "ages 18 or over."

physics223 · 2006-11-10, 04:29

So ... it's wrong?

kj1980 · 2006-11-10, 10:07

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Originally Posted by physics223

So ... it's wrong?

What, all this time, you thought ero-games were available for underage kids?

physics223 · 2006-11-10, 10:25

No, not that. I thought most otaku wore eyeglasses and looked like nerds. I knew that.

noisytime · 2006-11-10, 11:11

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Originally Posted by physics223

No, not that. I thought most otaku wore eyeglasses and looked like nerds. I knew that.

Can I ask why you care what otaku wear? Are you going to propose to one? Besides, there is already a thread called "Is watching anime considered childish in Japan?" where such superficiality is being discussed.

PS: I do not wear glasses, and I use the computer excessively.

physics223 · 2006-11-11, 07:48

I don't really care. Meh, sorry for spouting those things.

Although I'm pretty surprised why I also don't wear glasses when I use the PC excessively as well.

mimo · 2006-11-12, 19:59

another proof that otaku are losers?

~~mangatron~~ · 2006-11-13, 01:13

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Originally Posted by mimo

another proof that otaku are losers?

I hope you think about what you said....

After all, in this report it is the one without the money who is the loser

noisytime · 2006-11-14, 21:19

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Originally Posted by mimo

another proof that otaku are losers?

Tell us if you ever get robbed by a gang of thugs, so we can call you a loser.

Sinestra · 2006-11-15, 18:10

Sounds like the making of an anime if you ask me. I can see it now it would be like HACKERS but with Otakus and instead of computers it would be all thing anime. The Otaku look for a leader to help them defend themselves all of sudden POOF MR T arrives i dont think those thugs would mess with a Gaint black man wearing a shit load of chains LOL

but seriously that sucks im not surprised though predators pick the weakest prey maybe they should start travelling in groups at night that way at least some can get away sacrifice the few for the good of the many. I know im cold hearted bastard but its not happening to me so Oh well

Vexx · 2006-11-15, 18:42

Why people wear glasses mostly: Because the need to wear glasses has a lot more to do with heredity than reading or watching things on screens. What little it has to do with environment is dependent on what your parents had you doing between the ages of 0 and 3 years.

Where the hell do you people think nearsighted and farsighted people got their vision before tvs and computers?

Anyway, it has much more to do with the shape of the eyeball and the flexibility of the focusing elements coupled with the vision processing cortex. (coupled with the problem we locked up all the tigers so that bad eyesight is no longer "selective breeding" issue)

on topic: lazy predators *always* pick the easiest targets. If a few otaku take their USB tazers, work out a bit, and kick the crap out of a few back ... the "easy target" meme will be weakened. The other option is for the prey otaku to take some hints from gazelle -- pay attention to their surroundings and stay near the herds, lighted areas, and walk assertively as if they aren't sickly

orion · 2006-11-15, 23:57

So what can you legally carry for protection in Japan?

Clarste · 2006-11-16, 01:08

I'd imagine that otaku are less likely to care about their appearence, and are therefore more likely to wear glasses instead of dealing with the hassles of contacts. This of course only applies to people who have bad eyesight in the first place. Alternatively, perhaps people with bad eyesight are less adept at physical activities due to vision problems, and end up being more likely to have "nerdy" hobbies than those born with good eyesight.

There are plenty of reasons why otaku might wear glasses more than other people, assuming its true. Correlation is not Causation. Anyway, as far as I know, there's no evidence that any sort of behavior has a significant effect on eyesight, despite the myriad bits of folk wisdom warning us about this or that. It's mostly genetics, I think.

On topic, it doesn't matter whether or not they can identify rich/weak people. The fact is that Akihabara has a high percentage of weak/rich people who regularly go there, so any target has a higher probabilty of being rich/weak. The muggers could be choosing completely at random and it'd still be in their interest to hang out there.

kj1980 · 2006-11-16, 02:20

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Originally Posted by orion

So what can you legally carry for protection in Japan?

The Comike catalog. You can literally beat a person to death with its heaviness wwww

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Originally Posted by Vexx

The other option is for the prey otaku to take some hints from gazelle -- pay attention to their surroundings and stay near the herds, lighted areas, and walk assertively as if they aren't sickly

Heh. I've seen people being mugged in broad daylight in the middle of a crowded street. What do people nearby do? Nothing. Why? Urban malaise.

"Meh, someone else would take care of it"
"Meh, I'm late for work, date, etc. etc."
"Meh, so long it's not me, I don't give a damn."
"Meh, I don't want to get involved in more crap in my already stressful life."

Hence, nothing happens.

Vexx · 2006-11-16, 04:06

Meh, that happens in LA and New York -- nothing peculiar to Tokyo. On the other hand, I've lived in large cities where the culture is such that a mugger stupid enough to do that would have about 50 people beating the crap out of them. Most cities have good moments and bad moments in regard to social responsibility.

And at least according to the japan newspaper reports on various crimes, Tokyo is not bereft of good samaritans, so it just depends on someone's sense of civil righteousness being tweaked.

animefanrk2k · 2006-11-16, 06:03

I've never witnessed a mugging, but you'd be 100% sure that if I saw a few people picking on one person, I'd be the first in there swinging to stop it. (Quite strange, considering I spent a good portion of my life IN New York City... *shrugs*)

As for the whole back-alley thing, whoever said it, you DO know that you can find TONS of good cheap anime stuff for less in some of Akihabara's back alleys, right? This conforms with the idea of shopping around and knowing where to go. If you're a genuine otaku, whether weak or strong, you'll learn and go to the places that sell the good stuff. (Yeah, it would have taken me at least another week of Akihabara scowering for me to learn those spots, but... that's how vacations are XD)

Personally, I'm semi-otaku, but not in the stereotypical line. I do wear glasses, but only at night, and because I lived in the city, I'd second-guess on walking down back alleys after a certain hour, but to fully expect anyone or anything to jump out at me when I DO walk down those alleys during the later hours. I like swordplay, martial arts, and sports as well as video games and such, so I'm kinda all over the place. XD

It just goes to show you that one who doesn't prepare him/herself for the situation will fall prey to it. (Like I never prepare for walking, so on occasion, I'll trip. XD)

Lord Raiden · 2006-11-16, 09:05

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Originally Posted by noisytime

It seems that thugs looking for easy targets have been robbing otaku-types hanging around Akihabara after dark.

from: http://textfiend.net/zerohero/index....e-in-paradise/

If you follow that link there's also some info about a maid cafe employee that was recently assaulted in Akihabara.

Here's a video report:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KnvMHN-jMs

You know what's funny about all this? I bet Otaku start hiring bodyguards to walk with them for protection which means a money opportunity for young jocks out to make a yen or two.

Heck, I'd sign up for the job. I may not look like much, but I could easily hold my own in a 4 on 1 fight. I know that from experience. Had many times in high school and college and even somewhat since then that I've found myself at the disadvantage fighting against stronger guys in up to a 4 on 1 fight. The trick isn't to use strength, but to go for all the high pain points. I can take a guy twice my size and walk him down the street like a dog if I grab him in the right place and apply preasure.

Quarkboy · 2006-11-16, 14:26

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Originally Posted by Lord Raiden

You know what's funny about all this? I bet Otaku start hiring bodyguards to walk with them for protection which means a money opportunity for young jocks out to make a yen or two.

Heck, I'd sign up for the job. I may not look like much, but I could easily hold my own in a 4 on 1 fight. I know that from experience. Had many times in high school and college and even somewhat since then that I've found myself at the disadvantage fighting against stronger guys in up to a 4 on 1 fight. The trick isn't to use strength, but to go for all the high pain points. I can take a guy twice my size and walk him down the street like a dog if I grab him in the right place and apply preasure.

Now THAT's an "Akihabara Escort Service" I can get behind!

Vexx · 2006-11-16, 15:08

Especially if you cosplay/dress for the part .... they'll completely underestimate you

Fome · 2006-11-16, 16:43

Hey, can someone clear this up for me? How exactly do these bullies mug the otakus? What kind of force do they use? Guns are illegal for civilian use in Japan, so do these guys carry knives? Cuz if someone or even a group of 3 guys came up to me and tried to shake me down with no weapons of any kind, I would feel very little pressure to fork over my cash. Violence aside, if they don't have a gun, what is keeping you from running like hell into the nearest store or public area?

2006-11-10, 04:29	Link #22
physics223 In the Tatami Galaxy ↓ Join Date: Feb 2006	So ... it's wrong? __________________ anime\|otaku - hypotheses, analyses, and musings on The Tatami Galaxy \|\| The REAL first handheld console with color!

2006-11-10, 10:25	Link #24
physics223 In the Tatami Galaxy ↓ Join Date: Feb 2006	No, not that. I thought most otaku wore eyeglasses and looked like nerds. I knew that. __________________ anime\|otaku - hypotheses, analyses, and musings on The Tatami Galaxy \|\| The REAL first handheld console with color!

2006-11-11, 07:48	Link #26
physics223 In the Tatami Galaxy ↓ Join Date: Feb 2006	I don't really care. Meh, sorry for spouting those things. Although I'm pretty surprised why I also don't wear glasses when I use the PC excessively as well. __________________ anime\|otaku - hypotheses, analyses, and musings on The Tatami Galaxy \|\| The REAL first handheld console with color!

2006-11-15, 18:10	Link #30
Sinestra ション (^^) IT Support Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Freedom Guard Ship Amaterasu	Sounds like the making of an anime if you ask me. I can see it now it would be like HACKERS but with Otakus and instead of computers it would be all thing anime. The Otaku look for a leader to help them defend themselves all of sudden POOF MR T arrives i dont think those thugs would mess with a Gaint black man wearing a shit load of chains LOL but seriously that sucks im not surprised though predators pick the weakest prey maybe they should start travelling in groups at night that way at least some can get away sacrifice the few for the good of the many. I know im cold hearted bastard but its not happening to me so Oh well __________________

2006-11-15, 18:42	Link #31
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	Why people wear glasses mostly: Because the need to wear glasses has a lot more to do with heredity than reading or watching things on screens. What little it has to do with environment is dependent on what your parents had you doing between the ages of 0 and 3 years. Where the hell do you people think nearsighted and farsighted people got their vision before tvs and computers? Anyway, it has much more to do with the shape of the eyeball and the flexibility of the focusing elements coupled with the vision processing cortex. (coupled with the problem we locked up all the tigers so that bad eyesight is no longer "selective breeding" issue) on topic: lazy predators always pick the easiest targets. If a few otaku take their USB tazers, work out a bit, and kick the crap out of a few back ... the "easy target" meme will be weakened. The other option is for the prey otaku to take some hints from gazelle -- pay attention to their surroundings and stay near the herds, lighted areas, and walk assertively as if they aren't sickly __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2006-11-12, 19:59	Link #27
mimo Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006	another proof that otaku are losers?

2006-11-15, 23:57	Link #32
orion Waiting for more taiyuki! Join Date: Jan 2004	So what can you legally carry for protection in Japan? __________________

2006-11-16, 01:08	Link #33
Clarste Human Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 37	I'd imagine that otaku are less likely to care about their appearence, and are therefore more likely to wear glasses instead of dealing with the hassles of contacts. This of course only applies to people who have bad eyesight in the first place. Alternatively, perhaps people with bad eyesight are less adept at physical activities due to vision problems, and end up being more likely to have "nerdy" hobbies than those born with good eyesight. There are plenty of reasons why otaku might wear glasses more than other people, assuming its true. Correlation is not Causation. Anyway, as far as I know, there's no evidence that any sort of behavior has a significant effect on eyesight, despite the myriad bits of folk wisdom warning us about this or that. It's mostly genetics, I think. On topic, it doesn't matter whether or not they can identify rich/weak people. The fact is that Akihabara has a high percentage of weak/rich people who regularly go there, so any target has a higher probabilty of being rich/weak. The muggers could be choosing completely at random and it'd still be in their interest to hang out there.

2006-11-16, 04:06	Link #35
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	Meh, that happens in LA and New York -- nothing peculiar to Tokyo. On the other hand, I've lived in large cities where the culture is such that a mugger stupid enough to do that would have about 50 people beating the crap out of them. Most cities have good moments and bad moments in regard to social responsibility. And at least according to the japan newspaper reports on various crimes, Tokyo is not bereft of good samaritans, so it just depends on someone's sense of civil righteousness being tweaked. __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2006-11-16, 06:03	Link #36
animefanrk2k Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New York Age: 37	I've never witnessed a mugging, but you'd be 100% sure that if I saw a few people picking on one person, I'd be the first in there swinging to stop it. (Quite strange, considering I spent a good portion of my life IN New York City... shrugs) As for the whole back-alley thing, whoever said it, you DO know that you can find TONS of good cheap anime stuff for less in some of Akihabara's back alleys, right? This conforms with the idea of shopping around and knowing where to go. If you're a genuine otaku, whether weak or strong, you'll learn and go to the places that sell the good stuff. (Yeah, it would have taken me at least another week of Akihabara scowering for me to learn those spots, but... that's how vacations are XD) Personally, I'm semi-otaku, but not in the stereotypical line. I do wear glasses, but only at night, and because I lived in the city, I'd second-guess on walking down back alleys after a certain hour, but to fully expect anyone or anything to jump out at me when I DO walk down those alleys during the later hours. I like swordplay, martial arts, and sports as well as video games and such, so I'm kinda all over the place. XD It just goes to show you that one who doesn't prepare him/herself for the situation will fall prey to it. (Like I never prepare for walking, so on occasion, I'll trip. XD) __________________ All wars come to an end.

2006-11-16, 15:08	Link #39
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	Especially if you cosplay/dress for the part .... they'll completely underestimate you __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2006-11-16, 16:43	Link #40
Fome Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Hey, can someone clear this up for me? How exactly do these bullies mug the otakus? What kind of force do they use? Guns are illegal for civilian use in Japan, so do these guys carry knives? Cuz if someone or even a group of 3 guys came up to me and tried to shake me down with no weapons of any kind, I would feel very little pressure to fork over my cash. Violence aside, if they don't have a gun, what is keeping you from running like hell into the nearest store or public area?