[Umineko] Fan Fic EPX: The Witch of Despair VS Animesuki Detectives!

[Exilon]

Oh, why did Golden Witch Drugs delete his/her posts? Those were some good theories, actually. Wow, CWA, you're going to the core of it. Allow me to make use of your method when you're finished for organizal's sake. (Please? :P)

Spoiler:

I've been thinking that, if there are no wigs on the island, then Krauss probably saw Jessica. And since they searched in the woods before finding the six hanged, maybe some of them were only killed then. ...another possibility is that "someone" entered the living room, hanged the 6, locked the doors from inside and left through the window. this is one of the most obvious explanations. for now, I'll just stick with the first murder, before I move onto the others.

Spoiler for Asked for recital:

- Krauss killed Kinzo.
- Kinzo killed Krauss.
- The windows of the living room can be locked from outside.
- The windows of the living room were not locked when the hanged six were found.
- The person Krauss saw was Jessica.
- Someone faked his/her death.
- Kinzo cares alot for his children and their well-being.
- Rosa loves Maria.
- At least one of the servants is the culprit, or the murderer, or the accomplice.
- The six found hanged in the living room, are definitly dead when they are found.
- Not only Rudolf, Eva and Krauss were drugged, but everyone that was in the living room that night as well.

that's everything so far.

[Nadeor]

-Genji didnt said anything about losing the key from pity...
(Sorry I didn't quite get this one above)

-Jessica was killed at her mother´s room.
-Between 4-8th twilight all the servants were together.
-There are only 5 master keys in the island.

[Nadeor]

Mada Mada Exilon
The guys in the chinese forum told me to go a little bit easier on you guys, so here:

Spoiler for Recitals:

- Kinzo died of a natural death, by natural meant nothing like from a gun
- The windows of the living room can't be locked from outside.
- The windows of the living room were not locked when the hanged six were found.
- The person Krauss saw was Jessica.
- Kinzo cares alot for his children and their well-being, but not all of his children
- Rosa loves Maria.
- At least one of the servants is the culprit, or the murderer, or the accomplice.
(For this one above use logical reasoning, hint: Duo-inversion, what does it mean?)

- The six found hanged in the living room, are definitly dead when they are found.

Hehe, they say that I'm even meaner than the witch of despair herself
But is it possible? For you all to solve this mystery in the next 12 days?

Something from the guys of the chinese board, they wish you the best upon defeating me...(God that's awkward:huh

Spoiler for 2nd wave Recitals:

-Krauss was unconscious for a while in the first day(Oct. 4th, 1986)
-Hideyoshi likes to smoke
-Eva was planning on something which is not stated clearly in the story
-Not all of the victims in the first twilight died of the same reason.

Now for something from the witch herself
Please do read it, for which it explains why I will not recite any red line for the next little while:

Spoiler for Words from the Witch:

Greetings, the challengers from AnimeSuki Forum
It is indeedly nice to see so many trying to solve this mystery
Is it, or is it not, that thy struggles?
Here's something from my share:

Natsuhi and Gohda never had an affair, they are normal friends, relationship will be master and servant
Krauss disliked Gohda before
No wig of any form exists on the island before or after

Now after seeing such nice logical reasonings
I'd like to make a trade with thy all
Here's the statement:

-For all the victims whose bodies were saw by the others, OVER HALF OF THEM DIED AT THE SCENES WHICH FIRSTLY DISCOVERED BY THE OTHERS. Among the six who had died in the first twilight, only two of them died AT THE SCENES WHICH FIRSTLY DISCOVERED BY THE OTHERS. Here, the definition of the "Others" will be "Anyone other than the Murderer/Culprit".

(Nadeor: Allow me to rephrase the above, and please forgive me of my awful translations. For example, if A killed B in place Z, and C saw B's dead body at place Z, then this will be "DIED AT THE SCENE WHICH FIRSTLY DISCOVERED BY THE OTHERS". However, if B was moved to place Y after his death, and discovered there by C, place Y is not the scene which firstly discovered by the others. Understand?
Oh yes, the witch of despair thought about that this trade might call off by you guys, so yes, I have put in and taken out an extra few lines in the statement above. Once the trade is a go, I will fix the line to its original shape.)

(Back to the witch...)

However, the price of this trade, shall be that
Any request for recitals relating to the truth of something, and the place of where someone got killed, will all be REFUSED immediately.

So how's that?
And, Nadeor will not recite any red lines afterwards until he has gotten a clear response from you guys.
He will see from the next three posts, of who agrees and who doesn't, the one which has the most votes counts.
So please state thou response quickly. Until then~

[Goose Boy]

Spoiler for More:

To confirmate something :
-All the 5 master keys were found in the "servant´s massacre"room after all were killed.

[Nadeor]

Sorry, but I'm afraid due to the witch-sama's order, I cannot recite anything
However, I can post your request to the chinese board
There they will decide whether it's fine or not, but it will take some time
And I could not recall much of the entire story myself, lol

Your Logical Reasonings are still welcome~
They are all quite impressed with you guys' ability, but however
There are some places I got you guys right where I wanted =v=

[Goose Boy]

Ara Ara.... things are getting much difficult but at the same time easier... and im not going to be furniture....

Spoiler for More:

I got it got it got it.....the answer was a person that was never thought to be the culprit... and people tend to pay atention to things that arent important... so the servant accomplice is KANON-KUN...
He wanted shannon... he would never let dirty george-sama lay a finger on her... probably he told Krauss about it and he thought that it would prove useful... kanon drugged the people there so he killed george, hideyoshi, kyrie and and battler if also had an afair with hen, the servant took the bodies to somewhere else, he placed them all in the living room , someone snaps and kanon kills him/her in another location. in order to look that the witch, some supernatural agent did it to scare shannon, he needed some other two sacrifices... natsuhi-sama has been mean to him... and krauss hated her, he slipped into her room killed her, but then jessica comes and screams to him, he becomes enraged and chases her everywhere.. thats why she couldnt answer to her father because she was running for her life, kanon killed her and quickly places her with the other corpses. He placed the epitaph of the witch, and the keys in the room and locked the door with the master key.

Everyone becomes mad, probably kanon didnt killed eva, krauss ( for obvious reasons) rudolf nor rosa because the were children of kinzo, who is very important to kanon, probably in some moment he told kinzo about it and for X motive dissapeared, kanon told genji who also holded the trust of kinzo about it and genji called krauss, in the conversation kinzo got so upset that he had a heart attack and died, genji in hatred killed krauss and cleaned the bodies so no one could discover his "sins", he blamed beatrice.

before the servants are all locked up, genji and kanon became filled up with regret so they decided to end everyone except shannon and leave the island, genji became obsessive with the legend of the witch so he seeked for demon shaped icepicks that kinzo probably had and killed the other servants with kanon, due to being short on sacrifices he killed kanon before he realized anything and then shannon, he placed the chain of keys in the table and ended his own life for the witch...


How´s my theory? im not going to check thoroughly if everything is right...

Morning comes

Jessica told her mother about the summoning and she also came inmediatedly,

[Goose Boy]

Forgot to tell something... Krauss became very upset when he woked up... he did knew something

[Asashio123]

Huh... that's interesting,. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to go online for a few days, and now that I finally can, it seems that the EPX battle has already started for a few days without me.

As for the "trade", I can't say I understand it completely, so I won't vote just yet. I am leaning more on the side of calling off the trade, though.

Spoiler for First Impressions:

Yeah, I don't have much of a substantial theory yet, but I do have some random thoughts I want to bring up;

-Again, (I think this was implied before) some of the 'corpses' may not be dead, even if their faces were perfectly intact. It is possible to fake your death, by simply standing/lying there, closing your eyes, and not moving, or breathing noticeably. To tell the truth, Krauss (and Kinzo)'s deaths seem kind of suspicious, especially now that we know that Kinzo was not in fact shot (I suppose the red text implies that Kinzo is 100% dead, so I won't go on about that theory.) Blood can easily be faked (either the blood is taken from another human/creature, or is something that just looks like blood).

I think it's likely that the blood was fake, mostly because of the fact that all the 'blood' had disappeared when the siblings returned to Kinzo's room. Krauss could have been lying, perfectly alive, on the floor as the other siblings walked into the room, surrounded by various substances that resembled blood, and then, as the siblings left, he could have tidied up the fake 'blood', and disposed of Kinzo's body. Thirty minutes had passed from when the group found the 'dead' Krauss and Kinzo to when the group returned to the room, and found out that they disappeared. It's somewhat hard to tidily clean up a pool of real blood in less than half an hour. Remember, the murderer also had to dispose of Kinzo's body, get away, and all that.

Of course, the servants could have faked their deaths as well. I'm suspecting Kumasawa and Gohda, as even if they had been stabbed by the fruit knife, it would unlikely that either of them would die. (Being stabbed in the neck, chest or stomach- potientally damaged internal organs. Being stabbd in the knee or foot - Might lose blood. Probably possible to die just of blood loss, but possible to live through, as well.)

-I'm pretty sure, in this episode, Maria is not the crazy occult-fanatic she is the real story. She doesn't seem to be as creepy and Beatrice-loving as her canon self is, at least. And of course, Rosa 'loves' Maria, which may imply that Maria is as 'eccentric' (in Rosa's eyes, at least).

-Nanjo might be an accomplice, just because of his status and training. He probably has knowledge on drugs and such. He would probably also be useful in murdering the victims themselves. As actually killing a person by hanging/shooting/stabbing with fruit knives is quite messy and difficult to perform, the people were more or less obviously killed by other methods, and then made to look like they were hanged/shot/stabbed with fruit knives. Nanjo, with his medical knowledge, could easily help with this.

For some reason, my intuition is suspecting Eva. Of course, if she is the 'culprit', it seems likely that she prepared only the first twillight, and all the others were performed by someone else. Of course, I have no evidence, so meh.

I kind of wish I could ask Nadeor to recite some in red right now. Ah well.

[Nadeor]

Wow Asashio, that was an impressive thought...O_O
there were some peakers from the chinese forum as we spoke, why don't we say hi to them XD

Sorry Goose boy and Asa-san, it's the order and I'm afraid only to make it fair, I will not recite any. You guys may take a while and think about it yourself, and I can recite them later on.

May I recommend Resign XD?

Anyways, here's a hint:
-Why must Gohda and Gumasawa die in the seventh and eighth twilight? Can it be that, something were not told in the story =v=?

[Golden Witch Drugs]

Request for reticing:

Spoiler:

- Natsuhi had a sickness that Nanjo knew about
- The tea was drugged
- Genji saw something in the woods that wasn't supposed to be seen
- Rudolf is a smoker
- The bread crums on Natsuhi's dress were from the cake that Rosa fetched for Maria
- The culprit always took the keys and put them in the envelopes
- Nanjo knows who the culprit is
- The shadow that whispered something chocking to Nanjo was the culprit

[Golden Witch Drugs]

Originally Posted by Exilon

Oh, why did Golden Witch Drugs deleted his/her posts? Those were some good theories, actually. Wow, CWA, you're going to the core of it. Allow me to make use of your method when you're finished for organizal's sake. (Please? :P)

Spoiler:

I've been thinking that, if there are no wigs on the island, then Krauss probably saw Jessica. And since they searched in the woods before finding the six hanged, maybe some of them were only killed then. ...another possibility is that "someone" entered the living room, hanged the 6, locked the doors from inside and left through the window. this is one of the most obvious explanations. for now, I'll just stick with the first murder, before I move onto the others.

Spoiler for Asked for recital:

- Krauss killed Kinzo.
- Kinzo killed Krauss.
- The windows of the living room can be locked from outside.
- The windows of the living room were not locked when the hanged six were found.
- The person Krauss saw was Jessica.
- Someone faked his/her death.
- Kinzo cares alot for his children and their well-being.
- Rosa loves Maria.
- At least one of the servants is the culprit, or the murderer, or the accomplice.
- The six found hanged in the living room, are definitly dead when they are found.
- Not only Rudolf, Eva and Krauss were drugged, but everyone that was in the living room that night as well.

that's everything so far.

I deleted couse I wasn't a participant yet ^^ (Didn't realize at that time that you needed to be :P)

[Golden Witch Drugs]

Oh, I have a theory Unfortunatly I couldn't take care of the small details, so this is just a rough theory.

Spoiler:

I belive that either Genji or Kanon are the culprits. First of all, Kanon didn't like that Shannon was going to marry George. But I do not belive that Kanon had the courage to murder anyone so I belive that Genji preformed everything. Genji, who is a servant, prepared the tea and drugged it so he could preform the first twilight. At the second twilight, I belive that Krauss shot Kinzo, and in Genji's anger he shot Krauss. (I belive there was another rifle somewhere or Genji used the same rifle and then put another rifle in Kinzo's hand) He made it look like he didn't do it in the last second before Rosa came. At the third twilight, I belive that something like Kanon and Shannon fighting leading to the discover of Genji's murderes. Genji needed to do something, since all the servants were there, so he killed them all. Then he discovered that there wasn't enough victims, so he sacrificed himself to release himself from he's sins. Well... This is kind of a bad theory, but it's the best I can come up with!

[Nadeor]

I'm sorry that I can't recite these yet ^_^|||
You guys will have to give me a response to the trade, a yes or no would do

However, let's just say that you guys did way better than the one's from last round
11 more days to go, is it possible? Or Impossible?
You will decide

However, if none responds 'till tomorrow, then I'm calling this trade an off
Good luck to ya'all~

[Asmodeus]

Spoiler:

-Eva is the murderer
-Eva wants to protect George and kills Shannon
-Eva hates Natsuhi and kills her husband:Krauss
-Hideyoshi knows that Eva is the murder

[Golden Witch Drugs]

Hmm... My answer would be an no actually :3 I want more reciting!!~

[Larrave]

Originally Posted by Asashio123

Huh... that's interesting,. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to go online for a few days, and now that I finally can, it seems that the EPX battle has already started for a few days without me.

As for the "trade", I can't say I understand it completely, so I won't vote just yet. I am leaning more on the side of calling off the trade, though.

Spoiler for First Impressions:

Yeah, I don't have much of a substantial theory yet, but I do have some random thoughts I want to bring up;

-Again, (I think this was implied before) some of the 'corpses' may not be dead, even if their faces were perfectly intact. It is possible to fake your death, by simply standing/lying there, closing your eyes, and not moving, or breathing noticeably. To tell the truth, Krauss (and Kinzo)'s deaths seem kind of suspicious, especially now that we know that Kinzo was not in fact shot (I suppose the red text implies that Kinzo is 100% dead, so I won't go on about that theory.) Blood can easily be faked (either the blood is taken from another human/creature, or is something that just looks like blood).

I think it's likely that the blood was fake, mostly because of the fact that all the 'blood' had disappeared when the siblings returned to Kinzo's room. Krauss could have been lying, perfectly alive, on the floor as the other siblings walked into the room, surrounded by various substances that resembled blood, and then, as the siblings left, he could have tidied up the fake 'blood', and disposed of Kinzo's body. Thirty minutes had passed from when the group found the 'dead' Krauss and Kinzo to when the group returned to the room, and found out that they disappeared. It's somewhat hard to tidily clean up a pool of real blood in less than half an hour. Remember, the murderer also had to dispose of Kinzo's body, get away, and all that.

Of course, the servants could have faked their deaths as well. I'm suspecting Kumasawa and Gohda, as even if they had been stabbed by the fruit knife, it would unlikely that either of them would die. (Being stabbed in the neck, chest or stomach- potientally damaged internal organs. Being stabbd in the knee or foot - Might lose blood. Probably possible to die just of blood loss, but possible to live through, as well.)

-I'm pretty sure, in this episode, Maria is not the crazy occult-fanatic she is the real story. She doesn't seem to be as creepy and Beatrice-loving as her canon self is, at least. And of course, Rosa 'loves' Maria, which may imply that Maria is as 'eccentric' (in Rosa's eyes, at least).

-Nanjo might be an accomplice, just because of his status and training. He probably has knowledge on drugs and such. He would probably also be useful in murdering the victims themselves. As actually killing a person by hanging/shooting/stabbing with fruit knives is quite messy and difficult to perform, the people were more or less obviously killed by other methods, and then made to look like they were hanged/shot/stabbed with fruit knives. Nanjo, with his medical knowledge, could easily help with this.

For some reason, my intuition is suspecting Eva. Of course, if she is the 'culprit', it seems likely that she prepared only the first twillight, and all the others were performed by someone else. Of course, I have no evidence, so meh.

I kind of wish I could ask Nadeor to recite some in red right now. Ah well.

to your theory about the:

Spoiler for servants:

Your Nanjo-theory is very nice and actually would make alot sense especially after we see how Nanjo said by view:"Servants dead "obvious" and quit asking or smth like that.However what bothered me most first time was actually something else on the servants but wasnt sure about it since i couldnt answer about those stabbed in the knee and foot, since those cant be for sure dead by the wounds... but as you already said that point.However back to what me bothered is the one died by neckstab(I think Genji was it).I know from some real life experience(i think some text internet or television not sure) that having a knife in the neck even deep enough not to fall out immediatly doesnt mean you die.I think it was an old woman walking in a shop with a knife in the neck without even noticing.The point is like the skin on the back of your neck is very thick and can even resist something(Maybe human instinct protection since neck is a part of the body you can protect less than front body parts-still its an important body part).Next point which was strange Genji was the ONLY Victim who didnt die like the text mentioned it(Gouge the head, well actually imo neck is not head its the connection between head and torso)

so far

[Kets]

Can you explain the trade a little more?

[Asmodeus]

Originally Posted by Kets

Can you explain the trade a little more?

Yeah please...I post a message I'm not sure if it is good^^

[Exilon]

Ok, I'm ready to make a big post. :P
*Listening to worldenddomiantor and system0 while writing, to get in the mood*

Hum.... I think I'll say no to the trade, for now. Because it'll make us suppose more, and that's not really something I want. I'd prefer working with sure facts than suppositions like "more than half of x were at y, unless more than z was x" and things like that. --' If the witch would like to propose other trades, though, I will happily consider them.

Also, hi to the members of the chinese community ^^ I promise I'll try hard to defeat the witch of despair

Spoiler for mistake?:

This is quoted from the second morning.

"The three of them decided to check the guest hotel, and see what they can find; maybe the six of them had something urgent and had to go back to the guest hotel.
But, metaphorically quoting, to their surprise, the six of them are not in the guest hotel, the only one’s who were there are Rosa, Maria and the five servants: Kanon, Shannon, Gohda, Gumasawa and Genji, who were about to depart to the main building to make breakfast. As they were about to take their leave, they bumped into the three who rushed into the building like maniacs."

Am I missing something or Nanjo, that was supposed to be there, is missing? He appears in the next few lines, though. He was also staying at the guest hotel.

Spoiler:

Hum... I guess I'll start at the beginning.
Preivously, Nadeor told us to try and find the incident trigger.

So, in the first day:

- Eva has a certain plan that she wants to put into motion, probably with the objective of getting more money for herself. She knows something about Natsuhi and Krauss that we don't know about.
- Krauss is very greedy, and he wants to keep the money for himself. We know from one of the red statements that he loves Jessica, so he would do many things for her. However, his love for Natsuhi is questionable. He is also accused by Kinzo of not being able to tunk up of the consequences of his acts. Could this be a motive or a reason?
- About Rudolf, very little is known, so we don't know if he wants money or not.
- Although it seems Rosa needs money, she doesn't believe she can snatch any penny arguing with them. She could choose other methods, though. Also, with one of the red statements, we know she hates her siblings, and doesn't have that much of a connection with anyone else. But we know she's not the murderer, so she can be either an accomplice or the culprit. Her alibi is very weak anyway. Her knowledge of narcotics would help her if she wants to make Maria sleep for any reason, so she doesn't witness anything that Rosa doesn't want to.

The first twilight has many hindrances to it.
First, the only ones that can be safely ruled out of having been directly involved in it are the servants. Because,

1) Even though the three shown were "unconscious", they could be faking it.
2) Rosa's knowledge on narcotics. She could have drugged her child and left though the window. Same for Nanjo.
3) The other 6 just don't have any kind of alibi.

So, before anything else, WE NEED TO SORT OUT THE FIRST NIGHT, before we can try to solve the mystery itself.

But, one thing is certain. If someone died in the living room, it wasn't that night, but in the morning. So we can safely assume at least four of them were somehow moved (either by themselves or by someone moving them) out of the living room.
And into the woods. Which leads to my next point, maybe Krauss did see Jessica. But, from the red statement, if it was Jessica, she was just the accomplice. So she could have helped moving the bodies; maybe she doesn't know of the culprit's plan and thinks she's "being the accomplice" for another reason. Or she's luring the others; this is a very plausible possibility, because hanging six people needs time. Which makes me suspicious of Rosa, who purposedly stayed behind, although at this time no one was found dead yet. So, with this, we can rule out the ones that went to the woods. Meaning that one of the other 7 are at least the accomplices of the first twilight.

Spoiler for first twilight:

At least one of these people is somehow involved in the first twilight (in the morning), so at least one of these is the first twilight's accomplice:
- Kinzo
- Jessica (Suspicious. Krauss isn't psychic. I don't think he sees ghosts.)
- Natsuhi (Bread crumbs? ... no comments.)
- Hideyoshi
- George (not very suspicious; would he hurt Shannon?)
- Kyrie
- Battler (not very suspicious, he is "new" to the meetings)
- Rosa (HIGHLY suspicious. But it's the witch of despair after all,so...)
- Maria (Yeah, right. Maybe SHE is the culprit after all, but still...for the sake of my sanity, let's just be realistic.)

Rosa's actions are also quite weird, or at least the timeframe is. so she goes to the fridge, and takes out some cake for Maria. Since the fridge is found empty later on, this could suggest some things:
1) She drugged Maria (put something in the cake) so she would sleep. This way, Rosa can do whatever she wants, like helping hanging the first six.
2) The cake was the last thing on the fridge.
3) Maria and rosa decided to end the fridge's stash food.
4) Someone (or she) took the food out and took it to the forest or the place where "someone" is hiding.
The mud she found on the carpet is most likely dirt that someone left when they entered (after all, it's raining heavily outside.).

Later, they all returned to the guest hotel. (Genji seeing things at the forest, could have either been someone hiding, or just his imagination.) Of course, rosa is nowhere to be found (what a surprise.). I'm ignoring the ashes Nanjo found on his tray, they might have some significance, but I see none for now.

In the main building, dinnaly the first six are found. I have explained this before.. the culprit just used the windows, so this isn't really a closed room, despite what's written in the text. ...also, one of the red statements from nadeor bugs me. they are not definitly dead, but they are indeed dead. So.. what the heck? Does this mean that some of them are not dead, but faking it? their faces are perfectly fine, so body-faking is not possible. (I guess.) and Nanjo also confirms their deaths, so if they're not really dead... then Nanjo is an accomplice as well; maybe he is being blackmailed. After all, there's one thing you can't fake- heartbeats. and if someone did use a fake body, Nanjo would notice it.

Next up, Genji calls out Krauss alone. ...this is highly intruiguing, at least for me. why would he do it? There isn't much infomration on this yet, so I'm not going to analyse this further, but maybe Kinzo asked of this, or Genji is an accomplice (I doubt this though.) And finnaly, the second twilight, even though Krauss and Kinzo weren't really close. for this first scene, I doubt this didn't happen, because we have an omniscient point of view. We only know that Krauss was pulling the trigger. about their dialogue, maybe they were talking about the inheritance?

Now, after this, Rosa and Genji arrive. Notice that what we are told is told from rosa's perspective, so things might have not happened the way they say it did. ... And if that is so, then Genji is necessarily involved. (He could be being blackmailed.) I think Rosa's description is a little far-fecthed as well, because if what she said is true, then it would mean that she returned to the main building even before the first six were hanged, ...and was somewhere where she couldn't hear, see or smell anything of what was happening in the living room. ... And it would also mean that she didn't hear the six come in, see the bodies, leave, and then Genji and Krauss coming back. Sorry, but for me, this is just practically impossible. Either Rosa lied or she's paranoid, or she's involved with this.

they return to the main building and find that Kinzo and Krauss disappeared. Oh, what a big surprise. I wonder where they went. If we're unlucky, then Krauss, Rosa and Genji are all in this togheter, or Rosa is the one being blackmailed. Either way, the living room door that's opened seems like a red herring to me. I mean, DEAD people don't walk. Unless they're NOT DEAD. This kinda interferes with one of Nadeor's red statements.

Whoever left the letter in Kinzo's room, either:
1) Wanted the money to be distributed like this (and which one of the siblings in their right minds would want this, I guess)
2) Doesn't really care for the money, the will was written by Kinzo, and has a completely different intention.

However, someone left the witch's note in the same fashion as the first twilight. either this is the same culprit or some other culprit took advantage of it. However, if the there are two different culprit's, and the first twilight's culprit left the first note, I don't see why he/she would not want to continue the twilights; unless his/her plan was stolen. (EP3 anyone?)

Spoiler for second twilight:

At least one of these is directly involved with the second twilight:

-Kinzo
-Krauss
-Genji
-Rosa

-Natsuhi
-Jessica
-Hideyoshi
-George
-Kyrie
-Battler

-Maria (she is able to write, after all.) -.-' <-- not taking this one seriously.

and now, for one of the most controversial parts of this whole EPX!!!

"“I…Impossible…But…But how…Can this be…?”
Shannon and Kanon, who remained on the side, noticed something wrong about Nanjo, and both of them had a different look on their faces.
Sometime unnoticed, a murderous scent was delivered by somebody.
Then, when everyone started thinking, a shadow secretly moved behind Nanjo, and whispered something into his ears without anyone noticing. Nanjo immediately froze, and unable to speak another word due to the fear that pressed against him."

...........What?! ...I don't know how I'm suppoed to analyse this; I mean, Nanjo is not alone, yet "something"whispered" in his ear. And what did he notice? Could it have been some message he saw, or soemthing that wasn't supposed to be there and the writer is just "metaphorically speaking"?

And now for the final part, which is a complete meltdown. Motives for the final twilights are kinda unknown, but if we follow the red statements, then at least one of the servants is involved. Also, Rosa appears out of nowhere and knocks on the door of the main building. If I recall correctly, and if the background setting is the same, the meeting room isn't the only room in the guest hotel that has a TV. Pff, and what if rosa was the one to lock the door, purposedly? Once again, the windows of this room could have been used, but it is weird how the servants keys appeared there. ...One (very awkward) possibility is that one of them snatched the keys of the servant's room while Eva and Rudolf were talking, or that someone else entered the building without them noticing and stole them.

this turned out to be quite a huge post, but hopefully this will help clear many stuff and open ways to new theories. Meanwhile, Nadeor, have fun torturing us~
Requests for recitals will begin spamming soon enough, teehee~

[Goose Boy]

Im very stressed so i will get to the point

Spoiler for point:

genji was guilty, kanon was guilty, and kumazawa who was a tea specealist (drugger) is also guilty