2013-04-01, 16:11 | Link #3181 |
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Depending on how soon help arrives, we can save someone who has been stabbed through the stomach with out medical technology. So given what advanced medical techniques (and magic!) the TSAB health plan provides, I am not surprised Signum survived. Like I mentioned before, Cypha should have plunged that sword through Signum's head (or cut off her head) if she wanted a kill. Anything else is survivable.
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2013-04-01, 16:18 | Link #3182 |
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Someone who got stabbed in the stomach, got her front torso opened and who fell from a height similar to a tall building without any sort of magical protection to cushion the impact xDU
Considering both Signum and Agito were uncouncoius and the fact it was already pitch dark when help finally arrived i doubt Signum can focus any councious effort into sustaining her wounds. Also any person with such level of injuries never get to recover fully from it most of the time ...let alone being able to fight high speed battles against super strong opponents xDU Even the ones who get to achieve something like that must undergo likely more than a year of rehab.
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2013-04-01, 19:24 | Link #3183 |
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Yuuno's new spell, Caging Circle:
The current theory is that this capture-type spell somehow prevents its victim from leaving the circle (even to fly over or duck under it), while not actually inhibiting any other movement or action. It might even interfere with attempts to attack the ring, via the same invisible "pressure" that prevents escape. In function, this spell seems superior in many regards to other Binds, when used as part of a team. Notice how none of the binding touches the target's body, and allows for extremely wide windows of attack. If Arf's ring-and-chain binds had remained in place, Vita's, Fate's and Signum's attacks would have destoyed them. But the Capture Circle was relatively unobstrustive. Vita could attack downwards through it, Fate's attacks likewise came from above, and Signum shot underneath. It was only the fourth attack, Fate's second slash, that destroyed the ring, and that might have been an accident. Fate might not have expected her last attack to inflict enough damage that it would cut through the Beast and travel down far enough to strike the ring. Against a single large opponent that they all outnumbered, caging the monster in one spot was a higher priority than preventing it from attacking. With their superior numbers, they could scatter to provide too many targets, and provide covering defense and support to each other. Of course, given how many limbs it had, and the attacks it could use without limbs, bind-and-chain binds likely wouldn't have prevented it from attacking or defending anyway. So yeah, much more important to keep the ugly thing from moving and building up momentum. Stop the train before it starts. Another notable thing about the Caging Circle is how forcefully it closes on the target. It SHATTERS any tentacle in its path, causing the screen to shake slightly from implied force. Yuuno may not have the skill or talent to perform Bombardment spells, but if he wanted he could probably develop a Capture-type spell that inflicts horrible damage on his enemies. (And why not; Zafira's Steel Yoke is explicitly a capture-spell despite working more like a wide-area attack.) |
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Well, so long as the mage first turns them into elements properly. Characters like Signum and Fate can do this pretty easily... and, even if she's not in Force, I believe... Rio? I forget her name right now, but she has BOTH fire and lightning affinity.
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2013-04-04, 11:06 | Link #3185 | |
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Fire continuously needs fuel to function. When Signum shot fire at Cypha, she was using magic to fuel it. The Eclipse de-linked the magic, eliminating the fuel. Without fuel, the fire simply went poof. You need to look at where the magic ends, and the natural element begins, to determine how effective it will be. |
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2013-04-06, 11:10 | Link #3188 |
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I think that's more to do with that, while they can delink it, well, it's simply a matter of it being too much. Unless you can delink the whole thing enmass, all you did was make a whole bunch of large chunks of ice now raining down to destroy your ship
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2013-04-06, 11:24 | Link #3189 | |
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The Eclipse, although stronger, can't do this since its concentrated on the infected and its weapon. Although now that I think about it, what is the nature of Touma's Divide Zero? It can knock out both mages and Eclipse infectees. Is it just some sort of mega powerful shockwave?
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2013-04-06, 14:18 | Link #3192 |
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Well I think that is because there is confusion on what the Eclipse does. The Eclipse does make you a living weapon with such physical powers as regeneration, stronger skin, etc. But the thing that divides magic is the Divider not the Eclipse Driver. But only a person infected by the Eclipse can use a Divider.
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2013-04-06, 21:48 | Link #3193 |
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Well if the resident eclipse infectees think that the thing is scary enough that they'd want Touma to join them (aside from the fact that Touma is an infected), I'd figure it be some sort of ultimate technique.
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2013-04-07, 13:15 | Link #3194 |
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Well, Hayate said that she felt like both her magic and life force took a hit.
By the look of it, it wasn`t the first time for the Hulks since all of them knew exactly what they were hit with and called Thoma a "Zero" for it. They wanted Thoma to join before they knew he was a Zero. The fact that he was a Zero was a big surprise, even Hardis didn`t like that fact.
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2013-04-07, 14:10 | Link #3195 |
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I don't see however how is a surprise. They were trying to create the Zero user when they force Lily to make a contract and complete the Silver Cross, right? Or they just wanted to do it and see what happen? Now that last part sounds really possible.
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2013-04-07, 14:33 | Link #3196 |
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Where did you get that idea ?
You don`t need to be a Zero to use a Book of the Silver Cross. Curren uses one and Hardis had over 200 books. There isn`t much about the Zero Driver that not speculation right now.
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2013-04-07, 14:38 | Link #3197 |
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Yes, but if this happens at random how this people where hoping to find the Zero?
I mean they will infect every single human in the multiuniverse until one of them happens to be the Zero user?
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2013-04-07, 16:17 | Link #3199 |
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And stupid really, seems like the perfect way to be sure you will get ambush or attack. Oh wait… that actually happen. If only they, I don’t know, use a secret base lab with people they kidnap from other places to experiment in secret. Oh wait… they did that and they were having no troubles until Thoma just find them by accident. Call me crazy but it seems one method actually has a future and the other doesn’t.
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2013-04-08, 15:04 | Link #3200 |
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Given Eclipse users don't have a long lifespan, doing things quickly is the best way. And frankly, they're strong enough with the whole Eclipse/Divider thing, that mages don't generally pose a threat to them anyway.
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