2010-03-02, 10:23 | Link #1901 |
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Keeping his distace would work, yes, but you gotta remember Accel's power relies on touch. If he had managed to get in close he only had to touch Touma, a single finger would do, and it's a near instant win.
And he didn't just stand there. Accel is a physically weak guy who just got punched in the face for the first time ever! That kinda surprises a guy and he was still reeling from it a little when lo and behold, there's another punch to the face. I do agree though that if Accel had sniped Toua he would win easily. Unless you subscribe to the 'Imagine Breaker could block those blows' theory. But we shan't talk about that here. |
2010-03-02, 10:56 | Link #1902 |
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Yeah I guess Toma only made Acc look kinda weak in that specific situation.
And well, talk about snipe, a gun would take Toma (and anyone else in a defenseless position) down in an instance. So yeah, how far is the Light Novel as of right now? Vol 20? 21? 22?
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2010-03-02, 13:07 | Link #1904 | |
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And I'm not sure for kaori withstanding a nuke attack but what I'm saying is the power of saints are compare to nuke weapons or super weapons that if they are left unchecked they could destroy the world. And yes no one can withstand and angel. Specially in angel fall. Arch angel gabriel with just a single world can turn the who world into ashes. The anime tone it down A LOT. But in the novel you can see the awesomeness of an angel that makes touma wet his pants and you can clearly see the power a saint. And saints are nothing compare to angels but they are the only one who can withstand that barrage of angelic punishment. If its an ordinary magician it will just die in mere presence of it. As of now if you compare the power balance between magic and science. Magic side has the clear advantage with their saints and all but the science side has their artificial angel. Not including Aiwass because his kinda neutral to both sides. |
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2010-03-02, 22:38 | Link #1906 | |
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And no, IB can't cancel Accelerator's projectiles' momentum. What he does is, he modifies the vector stats of particles/objects that are in contact with his AIM field. Thus, he is not constantly applying power to his projectiles once they are set in motion (his AIM field only does the initial push, everything else is left to Index-verse's physics engine). IB, supposedly, only negates/suppresses supernatural fields (magic, AIM, divine) it comes into contact with, so it has no effect on Accelerator's projectiles' momentum.
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2010-03-03, 00:17 | Link #1907 | |
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2010-03-03, 08:12 | Link #1909 | |
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Second point. I agree with that too. I never said I thought that IB could block it, in fact I agree with you there. BTW, that had to be the best IB explanation I have ever heard. |
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2010-03-03, 09:05 | Link #1910 | |
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They can call up the power of divines but its also put damage on them so the saint usually utilize up to 50% of their power. If they go beyond it, it may be dangerous and the only one who can exceed it is Aqua who was a dual saint. But being also dual brings him double effects on the weakness of a saint. To be more precise Saints are all powering but I like the Gemstones more. Gemstones tend to be mysterious and doesn't have many weakness though being a Saint is totally awesome with its huge power with it. |
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2010-03-03, 09:13 | Link #1911 |
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so saints are weak against stabbing and such? (similiar to the suffering of jesus christ)
i was keep thinking cant accelarator encrease or decrease the vibrations between molecule theoritically he could melt or freeze anything he wants? also touma can nullify magic espers etc with his whole hand or just with his palm cuz if with his whole arm then ars magna shoudnt be able to cut his arm off wich would make a big plot hole lol
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2010-03-03, 09:24 | Link #1912 |
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Yeah, saints are like that, Aqua being a double saint is even more weak against those kind of executions and with the anti-divine spell made by the Amakusa Church inflicts even more damage. More dakka!
Mmmm... since saints have a different nature of their power they can inflict damage to Accelerator, but sure he can add them to his filter if he has the chance. BT updates: Volume 7 Chapter 2 Part 5 and 6 Last edited by Miraluka; 2010-03-03 at 09:40. |
2010-03-03, 11:01 | Link #1913 | |
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heh, if accelerator could manipulate molecular vibration(which he should be able to do, if he can manipulate matter at the atomic or subatomic level...) yes, he could make people explode, literally, or freeze them, just by touch... |
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2010-03-03, 11:14 | Link #1914 | |
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but he wouldn't do that. Because it will be dangerous for him. Manipulating in subatomic level will put him in helpless state like when he got shot in his head in LO arc. Remember when his manipulating in atomic level he couldn't put on his auto redirection firewall because it eats up his whole calculating ability . He could just touch the person and let his or her blood vessels explode. It will still results in death.
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Accel could put some filters on it after seeing once or two but he needs to understand its process first and being a man of science I doubt he would understand it fast but maybe if index is around. If Accel's opponent are the Saints. Its a one hit kill move for both sides. Accel for having no clue on magic side couldn't put a full power filter on it and him by having physical contact with the enemy he could kill it. He could stand a chance but still slim but in black wings mode who knows though even in black wings mode Aqua and Aurelus will still be hard being a dual saint and the STRONGEST current mage alive. As for Imagine Breaker. It only occupies the Fist. The holy stone is in the fist. So Airelous Izzard doesn't really need to cut of his whole right arm but Touma just say that his right arm can nullify anything without specifics on it so Izzard just cut off the whole arm. |
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2010-03-04, 09:00 | Link #1916 |
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Now that Accelerator vs Touma fight is brought back up. I did remember he was making weird sounds in that fight . Which makes me wonder if he was about to 'awaken' at that time since someone mentioned he was also producing weird sounds in his awakened form during his fight against Kakine. Then again, I don't know much about 'awaken' or what it takes for an esper to achieve that.
oh and isn't vol 20 going to be released this month?
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2010-03-04, 10:12 | Link #1917 | |
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I don't know more about it than you but I think the situation that time wasn't enough to awaken him. I imagine it's gotta take a really stressing and life threatening situation to uninentionally achieve that. (typical scenes where a char freaks out / gets owned badly and then unleashes overlimit mode) And yeah it's gonna be released this month.
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2010-03-04, 10:28 | Link #1918 |
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Holy stone is from the magic side perspective but from the science side they call it gemstone or something. From Fianna's perspective it's a HOLY STONE but from Aleister's perspective its a GEMSTONE.
The weird sounds he produce back then when he tried to manipulate the atmosphere is his calculations in rapid speed. And I'm not sure too if he would awaken back then or not but its true he produced weird sound or like weird computation stuff or just mumbling stuff in awaken mode. The only one who could awaken are Accel and Kakine but Aiwass said touma could so maybe the complete imagine breaker is his awaken mode. Plus Aiwass compare kakine, touma and Accel in Egyptian Gods. |
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Yes, weird sounds. Try checking the part where he was forming plasma.
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I'm pretty sure he felt stress in that fight. Touma was hitting him despite the fact his reflection is on. That freaked him out and robbed him the ability to think logically and kept charging into Touma's fist. He almost died when he triggered that dust explosion and I'm pretty sure he got owned badly again we don't know much about awaken and this could only be applicable for the 1st and 2nd, since well they're 'special' just like what tsunade666 said. Quote:
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Speaking of Kakine, how come he was chosen for the Level 6 project but then got dropped (reason why he hated Acc)?D: Only got that fact before, any detailed explanation for this?
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