Code Geass R2 - Episode 19 Discussion / Poll

[rpgman1]

Originally Posted by Revolutionist

I just went back and rewatched this episode for a second time. LOL does anyone else find it funny how that Geass Victim book Schneizel gives Todou has Kusakabe and Katase on top?

The writers probably rubbed it in to confirm Toudou's suspicions about Zero/Lelouch using Geass on them as injuries.

[Sprite_Coke]

Scheneizel wouldn't have gone there if he didn't plan to take Lelouch with him in the first place.

[Revolutionist]

Originally Posted by Sprite_Coke

Scheneizel wouldn't have gone there if he didn't plan to take Lelouch with him in the first place.

Take him with him? Then why did he let the firing squad try to shoot him?

[Sprite_Coke]

Good point

An interesting thing about Scheneizel that I've been thinking about
He's too calm, reminds me of L in Death Note

[rpgman1]

Oh boy, another DN correlation. Viewers will probably say, "Hey, it happened similarly like in DN". Now that will probably be predictible. CG is more like surprises and WTF moments like Suzaku's laugh.

[Sprite_Coke]

I think Suzaku's just laughing about how he was finally able to punish Lelouch for what he did to Euphie

[morbosfist]

Originally Posted by Sprite_Coke

I think Suzaku's just laughing about how he was finally able to punish Lelouch for what he did to Euphie

How would he know? It's not public knowledge, and he wasn't even responsible.

[Sprite_Coke]

??............?? They know Zero shot Euphie.........

[morbosfist]

Originally Posted by Sprite_Coke

??............?? They know Zero shot Euphie.........

I thought you were talking about Zero having just been betrayed, which Suzaku cannot possibly be aware of. Whatever he's laughing for, it isn't because of Lelouch.

[Wolfpack]

Originally Posted by morbosfist

How would he know? It's not public knowledge, and he wasn't even responsible.

Lelouch told Suzaku that he used Geass on Euphie at the shrine.

I'm a little dissappointed that Lelouch has apparently forgotten about his promise to C.C. Admittedly, he didn't have time to save her, but it seems like he doesn't have long term plans aside from dual suicide with his father. Though that's just one interpretation.

I hope Lelouch get's her back before the Black Knights hand her over to Britania. I'm surprised with all the info Schneizel was able to dig up on Lulu's Geass victims. I still think Schneizel is a bad guy. Not the kind where he's insane or anything, more like he only pretends to care about people when he's really simply justifying his actions to the public. Like he said he'd take Lulu as a prisoner but came to watch his execution instead? That wasn't the deal.

[morbosfist]

Originally Posted by Wolfpack

Lelouch told Suzaku that he used Geass on Euphie at the shrine.

See above post.

Originally Posted by Wolfpack

I'm a little dissappointed that Lelouch has apparently forgotten about his promise to C.C. Admittedly, he didn't have time to save her, but it seems like he doesn't have long term plans aside from dual suicide with his father. Though that's just one interpretation.

He can't very well help now. He'd have to get back on-board undetected and smuggle her out.

Originally Posted by Wolfpack

I hope Lelouch get's her back before the Black Knights hand her over to Britania.

Kallen won't allow that even if Schneizel had the info in the first place, which he likely doesn't. Furthermore, the Black Knights wouldn't hand her over when she hasn't really done them any real wrong.

Originally Posted by Wolfpack

I'm surprised with all the info Schneizel was able to dig up on Lulu's Geass victims.

The victims are really a matter of common sense in light of the knowledge of Geass.

Originally Posted by Wolfpack

I still think Schneizel is a bad guy. Not the kind where he's insane or anything, more like he only pretends to care about people when he's really simply justifying his actions to the public. Like he said he'd take Lulu as a prisoner but came to watch his execution instead? That wasn't the deal.

He wanted Zero turned over, clearly they either didn't agree or he simply felt there'd be no containing him.

[Sprite_Coke]

Originally Posted by morbosfist

I thought you were talking about Zero having just been betrayed, which Suzaku cannot possibly be aware of. Whatever he's laughing for, it isn't because of Lelouch.

No what I was saying is Suzaku unwillingly took revenge on Lelouch by killing Nunnally

[morbosfist]

Originally Posted by Sprite_Coke

No what I was saying is Suzaku unwillingly took revenge on Lelouch by killing Nunnally

Even he is not so much of a dick as to consider killing Nunnally just desserts.

[Freya]

Originally Posted by morbosfist

Even he is not so much of a dick as to consider killing Nunnally just desserts.

Yeah Suzaku isn't THAT low. Plus he liked Nunnally.

[Sprite_Coke]

I know that's why he laughed crazily, cause he got what he wanted but in the exact method that he was fighting against. All this time he's been criticizing zero about his methods but Suzaku became the same

[Dream_Traveller]

Er, I think his methods entailed, basically, 'Become Knight of One', 'Change system/govern Area 11', not 'Annihilate Tokyo Settlement', Live Geass aside.

[D a m i e n]

On the last page i saw a few chess analogie.
Why not concider Kallen (a pawn) wich turned into a queen after reaching the oponent side and coming back safely,
Rollo would be the rook saving the king from a check by rooking (not sure on the name of the move as i havent played chess in years but iirc it was concidered illegal to use that move to escape from a check)

[morbosfist]

Originally Posted by D a m i e n

On the last page i saw a few chess analogie.
Why not concider Kallen (a pawn) wich turned into a queen after reaching the oponent side and coming back safely,
Rollo would be the rook saving the king from a check by rooking (not sure on the name of the move as i havent played chess in years but iirc it was concidered illegal to use that move to escape from a check)

You're thinking of "castling," and the move can only be used if the king and rook in question have never moved. it also can't be done in check or if an enemy piece threatens any of the spots between the two pieces.

[D a m i e n]

Originally Posted by morbosfist

You're thinking of "castling," and the move can only be used if the king and rook in question have never moved. it also can't be done in check or if an enemy piece threatens any of the spots between the two pieces.

Thanks for the name of the move, in french it s called "roquer"

[bladeofdarkness]

rolo is a knight
he can jump over enemy units (by freezing them)
he did it to kallen and urabe