Zero no Tsukaima Novels Discussion Thread

[yuiichi9]

Originally Posted by azziz

perhaps,but she's coming fast with siesta,charlotte and even her sister in colbert and kirche war-ship;besides,each time saito is about to do R-18 x-stuf with another girl,she always appear to ruin his(our)fun-like last time with henrietta.
But first i guess we'll see their confrotation with the pope new assassisn team-and fouquet will have to choose between her lover and her sister.

Who is fouquet lover and sister? I wish saito would marry tiffa or marry both tifa and louise.

[Flere821]

Well, Tiffania is like a sister to Forquet, but they're not blood related. And Wardes is pretty much Forquet's 'partner' at Vol19 of the novels, but it remains to be seen if it's a romantic one. For now Wardes wants to get to the bottom of what drove his mother insane, and Forquet agrees to help him.

[Flere821]

Alright, found some translations on the latest novel (2 chapter out of 10 so far): confirmed this is the 3rd to last novel.

- Tiffania finally figured out she likes Saito, and due to a accident on the boat they're using to escape from the Elven Capital Tiffania tripped and kissed Saito.

-After escaping, they made way to a archipelago called 'Dragon's Nest', looking for a friend to the elf that helped Saito and Tifa escape.

-The friend turns out to be a rhyme dragon. Her name is literally 'mother of the ocean'. This dragon's grandmother was alive 6,000 years ago back when Brimir was around. Saito and Tifa is going to stay at this dragon's lair for a while to evade the elves' search parties.

-The 2 of them and the elf stayed on the islands for a few days, and Saito tried to teach Tifa how to swim. During one of these lessons some sharks came after them. After the sharks were driven off by some dolphins, a sea dragon showed up. Saito stabbed the sea dragon hard enough that Derflinger is stuck in the scales and Saito + Derf got carried away to the sea dragon's lair. There Saito found another weapon from Earth - a submarine. Soon after that Tifa rode on the dolphins and came to where Saito is.

[iealchemist]

Saito finds submarine.
SAITO: Oh f@#$ yes.

I wonder if it's got any torpedoes .
Oh-oh, it could be a nuclear sub...

[MitsubishiZero]

Originally Posted by iealchemist

Saito finds submarine.
SAITO: Oh f@#$ yes.

I wonder if it's got any torpedoes .
Oh-oh, it could be a nuclear sub...

The problem is, we don't yet know what kind of sub it is......since most of the weapons seem to come from near WWII period, i am guessing it could be a U boat.

However, I do hope it is one of the more modern creations from USSR or USA..........all those Radars, and advanced weapons.....


Based on what is described of the sub, I think it's in pretty bad condition......



btw you read raws?

[iealchemist]

Originally Posted by MitsubishiZero

The problem is, we don't yet know what kind of sub it is......since most of the weapons seem to come from near WWII period, i am guessing it could be a U boat.

However, I do hope it is one of the more modern creations from USSR or USA..........all those Radars, and advanced weapons.....


Based on what is described of the sub, I think it's in pretty bad condition......



btw you read raws?

No, I can't read japanese, which is a shame really, since I could play japanese import games without having to wait for a US release...

Anyway I looked it up, Nuclear Subs were not invented untill after WWII, so forget that.

Since all WW2 vehicles are seeming to come from the east, I'm guessing they're coming from the gate or somewhere close.

[MitsubishiZero]

Originally Posted by iealchemist

No, I can't read japanese, which is a shame really, since I could play japanese import games without having to wait for a US release...

Anyway I looked it up, Nuclear Subs were not invented untill after WWII, so forget that.

Since all WW2 vehicles are seeming to come from the east, I'm guessing they're coming from the gate or somewhere close.

And since most of the weaponary seem to come from WWII itself, the chance of it being a U boat is high. Afterall, the Tiger was in this world too...

It could also be a I-400 Class......a very underrated sub in WWII

[Hyakimaru]

I got the raw this morning, I wasn't able to take a good look at it since I had to go out, but I did managed a quick look at the illustrations:

-There's a couple about Saito and Tiffa, one of them is probably the kiss Flere mentioned and in the other one she seems like she's tempting him with showing him her boobs.

-There's a couple about Louise doing a pose with Guiche, Gimly and Malicorn in the background, the second one adds Eleonore as well.

-There's one that is really interesting since it shows Gulio and Tabitha's twin sister both threatening to kill themselves to each other.

But the one that's the most interesting and definitely the big twist of the book is:

Spoiler for Volume 20:

One with Saito looking under his shirt to find familiar runes on his chest, he looks really surprised and shocked to see them there and it might be because I only took a quick look but I don't remember seeing the Gandalf runes on his hand (Edit: his left hand is not visible at all).

There are a few others mainly about the elves and I honestly didn't look at the color pages, once I get back home I'll post more details.

[iealchemist]

Originally Posted by Hyakimaru

I got the raw this morning, I wasn't able to take a good look at it since I had to go out, but I did managed a quick look at the illustrations:

-There's a couple about Saito and Tiffa, one of them is probably the kiss Flere mentioned and in the other one she seems like she's tempting him with showing him her boobs.

-There's a couple about Louise doing a pose with Guiche, Gimly and Malicorn in the background, the second one adds Eleonore as well.

-There's one that is really interesting since it shows Gulio and Tabitha's twin sister both threatening to kill themselves to each other.

But the one that's the most interesting and definitely the big twist of the book is:

Spoiler for Volume 20:

One with Saito looking under his shirt to find familiar runes on his chest, he looks really surprised and shocked to see them there and it might be because I only took a quick look but I don't remember seeing the Gandalf runes on his hand (Edit: his left hand is not visible at all).

There are a few others mainly about the elves and I honestly didn't look at the color pages, once I get back home I'll post more details.

Hehe, I knew it.

Spoiler for Familiars:

I had a feeling that Saito would become Tiffa's familiar as well. I mean, it wouldn't be as good if another person from Saito's world popped up. I bet at this rate Julio is gonna become Josette's familiar as well.
Hold on though, does this mean that Saito is gonna be used as a bomb on the elves now?

[Hyakimaru]

Originally Posted by iealchemist

Hehe, I knew it.

Spoiler for Familiars:

I had a feeling that Saito would become Tiffa's familiar as well. I mean, it wouldn't be as good if another person from Saito's world popped up. I bet at this rate Julio is gonna become Josette's familiar as well.
Hold on though, does this mean that Saito is gonna be used as a bomb on the elves now?

Spoiler for Volume 20:

That might be the reason why he looks like he's about to freak out, it's hard to tell without the context but just looking at the picture it seems like he doesn't know what's going on and that he's terrified to see them.

By the way is it alright if i upload the images here?

[sona-nyl]

I think it's okay if you post some but not all. But I'm not sure.

[Hyakimaru]

Originally Posted by Usami_Haru

I think it's okay if you post some but not all. But I'm not sure.

Ok, then I'll just post the two I found the most interesting and if there's any trouble just tell me and I'll delete them:

Spoiler for Guilio and Jossette:

Spoiler for Saito:

[Strike Chaos]

Anybody the the entire plot yet?

[MitsubishiZero]

Spoiler for :

Oh my god. I can see why ZnT can end in 3 more volumes. The sub turned out to be not from WWII, but from the one after that: the Cold war. Yup, what he found was a no longer functioning Soviet Sub. The sub itself is in terrible shape, but there is one particular "weapon" still "aLIVE" in there. I am sure all of you know what it is.

So there is a door, and weapons have been transported over the years......I would love to get the flame thrower though.......those weapons are classified as inhumane and are banned from use. I won't use it on a human, just let me.....burn a tree or something........

[azziz]

did the elf take back tiffa,and her accomplice,or did saito rescue her?

[Flere821]

I've got some more info on Ch3 and 4:

Spoiler for Ch3 - 'The Final Spear':

The submarine turns out to be a Russian nuclear sub, but the engine has no nuclear material left in it and the sub can no longer function.

HOWEVER... it is fully loaded with nuclear ICBMs o_O

The elves also have magical equivalent of WMDs, they just don't use it. Saito's afraid that now that humans also have WMDs both sides will just eliminate each other. He didn't want to have the burden of having to decide whether to use these things, but he's the only one who can due to Gandalfr runes.

Tifa is conflicted in that she loves Saito, but he is already a friend's (Louise's) lover. To get around this she decides to just summon her own familiar, even though she knows it's just running away and might be a burden to whoever she summons.

Spoiler for Ch4 - 'The Senate':

The elven senate wrangle on about how Vitartial's neice helped Saito and Tifa escape. A vocal minority faction tries to discredit Vitartial, but ultimately fails due to faulty reasoning, and that only Vitartial has enough knowledge against their enemy: humans and the Void, so Vitartial cannot afford to be lost against the humans.

The senate is mostly filled with people that doesn't want to make changes and take responsiblity for it, since if anything goes wrong their own tribe would be the ones that is in trouble. Vitartial's niece is sickened by how stagnant the elven society has become over the years and originally started to study humans in hope of a revolution. Vitartial himself thinks the elves doesn't have the high ground to call humans barbarians in their state - even though having made sure there would be no tyranny by a single ruler, the senate as a whole is incompetent.

The senate receives notice that Saito and others reached the Dragon's Nest. The navy is sent to kill them all, as it's under the influence of that minority faction.

Vitartial meets with his niece's fiancee, and told him to rescue the three at Dragon's Nest, and escape to Gallia. Vitartial still have contacts there from when he served Joseph, and tell him to lie low there until it all blows over.

Vitartial has a talk with the current head of senate, and the reason why the elves doesn't just nuke the humans is revealed:

Dragon's Nest is the largest deposit of Earth weaponry in the elven lands, with things like a modern machine gun that doesn't need magic to work. If the humans of Helkeginia somehow get access to mass-produced Earth weaponry in addition to the Void, the elves might not win. That's why 'Shaitan's Gate', some sort of a permanent gateway between Helkeginia and Earth at the Holy Land, cannot be allowed to open.

The vocal minority faction doesn't know about the capability of Earth weaponry, and takes the stance of just kill all the Void mages and humans that dares to oppose the elves.

The elven navy has tamed 'Whale Dragons' instead of having massive combat ships, and elven military holds the view that magic should be the last resort.

[azziz]

elf politic?i like it,it's rare to see a serious attempt of that in ZnT.
please go on with your summary;i'm anxiously waiting for the follow-up.

[blitz1/2]

Originally Posted by Flere821

Alright, found some translations on the latest novel (2 chapter out of 10 so far): confirmed this is the 3rd to last novel.

- Tiffania finally figured out she likes Saito, and due to a accident on the boat they're using to escape from the Elven Capital Tiffania tripped and kissed Saito.

-After escaping, they made way to a archipelago called 'Dragon's Nest', looking for a friend to the elf that helped Saito and Tifa escape.

-The friend turns out to be a rhyme dragon. Her name is literally 'mother of the ocean'. This dragon's grandmother was alive 6,000 years ago back when Brimir was around. Saito and Tifa is going to stay at this dragon's lair for a while to evade the elves' search parties.

-The 2 of them and the elf stayed on the islands for a few days, and Saito tried to teach Tifa how to swim. During one of these lessons some sharks came after them. After the sharks were driven off by some dolphins, a sea dragon showed up. Saito stabbed the sea dragon hard enough that Derflinger is stuck in the scales and Saito + Derf got carried away to the sea dragon's lair. There Saito found another weapon from Earth - a submarine. Soon after that Tifa rode on the dolphins and came to where Saito is.

I wonder if it was this kiss from Tiffania that indirectly caused the creation of the runes?

Does Josette have a familiar already or was it not explained?

[iealchemist]

Originally Posted by blitz1/2

I wonder if it was this kiss from Tiffania that indirectly caused the creation of the runes?

Does Josette have a familiar already or was it not explained?

I don't think she has one yet, but I'm guessing the same thing's gonna happen, with Julio become a double familiar as well. That or Sheffield survived and is gonna make a comeback. (Not Likely)

Can't wait to see Saito's new ability. I wonder if there will be any extra effects from mixing runes?

[MitsubishiZero]

Originally Posted by iealchemist

I don't think she has one yet, but I'm guessing the same thing's gonna happen, with Julio become a double familiar as well. That or Sheffield survived and is gonna make a comeback. (Not Likely)

Can't wait to see Saito's new ability. I wonder if there will be any extra effects from mixing runes?

I just hope history won't repeat itself 6000 years ago, or else Saito is going for a BAD END........let's hope ZnT is going to have a so called "happily ever after" ending.....