2010-10-06, 21:08 | Link #9301 |
AS Oji-kun
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I realize that. I'm just puzzled why the county government doesn't just cut a deal with the city for fire protection and pass the cost along to the homeowners via the property tax. Putting the burden of contracting with the city on the individual homeowner makes no sense to me since one person's decision to decline the fee puts all his neighbors at risk. It's the usual problem of diffuse benefits and concentrated costs which government is well-designed to resolve.
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2010-10-06, 22:29 | Link #9302 | |
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from the interview that guy knew he had to pay a fee for fire service. My guess is he choose to buy in that area so he wouldn't have to pay as much property tax. he probably figure if there is a fire the fire dept would respond anyway.
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2010-10-07, 06:53 | Link #9304 |
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Hmm, I guess it's America. Around here it's save first, then send the bill if the guys have no coverage.
But this concerns essentially rescue operations for those idiots lost up in the mountain of in caves underground. Fires are to be dealt with simply to not see them propagate.
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2010-10-07, 13:27 | Link #9306 |
Rawrrr!
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My classmate Kim Jong-Un (interview)
Just saw this interview come out in a Swiss magazine.
I was at school with Kim Jong-Un in Bern (source: L'Illustré). NB: the Google translation can be pretty awful sometimes. Aside from that, in this video (French) that came recently on the Swiss television, there are some quite original and interesting peeks in present NK (mixed with a few pictures of the Swiss Parliament House, as the peoples which were asked for their impression following a trip are a Swiss National Councilor and a High Civil Servant). The scenes in the Children's Palace definitely sent chills down my spine...
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2010-10-07, 13:43 | Link #9307 | |
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Seriously since he is a cook, I bet he will be kidnapped to cook for his best friend in the near future.
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2010-10-07, 21:00 | Link #9308 | ||
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This fire incident is a good example of the failings of Libertarianism.
Three years ago, the homeowner did not pay the fee and the fire department put out a chimney fire for him. The homeowner claims he paid the $75 annual fee for the last two years, but forgot to pay it for the current year. This time, the same fire department stood by and watched his house burn down. Quote:
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I agree that the fire department should not have put out the fire. The man did not live in the fire department's municipality, and there is no way of knowing on the scene of a fire if a person is able to pay for the full costs of putting out the fire. This highlights the need for government to force people to pay for things like fire protection insurance and health insurance. Until you look at the outrageous pensions public fire fighters receive... I think the lesson here is, whatever the economic system, Americans will find a way to make it not work. |
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2010-10-07, 21:14 | Link #9309 | |
AS Oji-kun
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In the video a woman states that the home had been in their family for many years, which could well mean that the home was not mortgaged. As a result the owner may not have been carrying insurance either. Even if he were insured, I'm pretty sure his insurer would refuse to pay out on the grounds that the homeowner failed to take "due diligence" and pay the fee to the city.
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2010-10-07, 21:14 | Link #9310 |
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I don't think that example can be used as a way to discredit libertarianism as a whole. It's not as if government loses its function in a libertarian system. It just depends whether you consider public safety, or in this case fire prevention and control a matter best handled by the government through taxation or private contracting. In this case it wasn't even a private contractor but a city government offering their services to citizens outside of their jurisdiction, which is quite different.
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2010-10-08, 00:24 | Link #9311 | |
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2010-10-08, 02:21 | Link #9313 | ||
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Obama kills foreclosure bill as fury mounts
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2010-10-08, 06:55 | Link #9315 | |
AS Oji-kun
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After Stewart's opening on the foreclosures bill, keep watching for Wyatt Cenac's piece in the second segment on the Mortgage Bankers Association.
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If the yen is boosted to 100yen = US$1.00, it would cost US$80. You did your math wrong, or you got the wrong meaning of my words.
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2010-10-08, 08:06 | Link #9319 |
廉頗
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True, not really sure what I was reading, lol. Well, even if you get as libertarian as possible I don't see an advantage in people being able to opt out of those services. Since it affects those around you and is thus an issue that transcends individual decision.
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2010-10-08, 08:21 | Link #9320 |
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1749146/
Aren't they thinking too much of the Nobel prize?
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