2011-03-01, 17:53 | Link #3241 | |
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Would be interesting if Shinarui know about Zen and Ajimu relationship(whatever it is) and do something to force him to remember her, I mean i totaly can see her do somenthing like that just to see what happens next. of course, always if she know about them Last edited by Soji; 2011-03-01 at 18:11. |
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2011-03-01, 22:51 | Link #3244 |
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Huh, looks like Kumagawa's original Minus is 'Hundred Gauntlets', which I associate with speed for some reason. Plus he no longer has that creepy smile on his face. I think there is going to be an incredibly brutal fight waiting for us.
Also.... Holy crap, Ajimu. Spoiler for Her words:
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2011-03-01, 23:14 | Link #3246 |
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She has over a trillion abnormalities....
It's kind of hard to think there is any possible way she could have died. I mean chapter 88 showed that she was the original owner of All-Fiction and loaned it to Kumagawa so how could there be anyway she could die.
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2011-03-01, 23:30 | Link #3247 |
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There's always the possibility that she allowed herself to get killed by Kumagawa, she does seem to have a type of affection towards him.
It also doesn't seem like she's dead anyway, she seems to transcend death in a way, I have an odd feeling like she will eventually come back. |
2011-03-01, 23:46 | Link #3249 | |
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With that many abnormalities, she could be and act in any way she wants to, and no one could pry into her real personality. It looks Ajimu is using everyone. The way it was worded, it sounded like Ajimu hates both sides, good and evil. Anyone with a desire or strong opinion polarizes their character, making them either loved or hated. Maybe that's the type of person that Ajimu likes to manipulate but also hates. When Kumagawa was going to concede defeat and go with the flow, Ajimu sounded like she was trying to provoke him to beg for something. |
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2011-03-02, 00:22 | Link #3250 | |
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That exchange between Kumagawa and Ajimu just sent chills up my spine while reading it. I've been looking forward to this Medaka vs. Kumagawa fight for a while now. But even after that, I'm highly interested in how Medaka and the Student Council will handle Ajimu.
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But considering what Ajimu just said in this chapter, I'd imagine Medaka will make Ajimu her next goal after she finishes reforming Kumagawa.
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2011-03-02, 01:04 | Link #3252 | ||
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As for Ajimu, it might be that "Lip Service" only lets her give one ability but she has to take another back if someone already has one. Thats just me guessing the conditions for that ability though. We also don't know if Ajimu took Kumagawa's original Minus without asking or if he begged her for All-Fiction beforehand. Quote:
Then the Minus(Minus 13) came and displayed their hatred for the Pluses who were always the "Winners" while the Minuses were the "Losers". Kumagawa being the leader basically wanted to get rid of any Pluses so no one would be better than anyone else. Now we have Ajimu who has an astronomical amount of Plus and Minus abilities and fittingly she appears to believe she is above the petty differences between both sides. Since she has both she appears to see them as the same. What her next move is who knows but I'd imagine she takes center stage after the Plus and Minus overcome their differences.
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2011-03-02, 01:44 | Link #3255 | |
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But seriously, what defines a villain? Good and evil are subjective. It's society that defines what's right and wrong. Medaka wants to help everyone and make them happy, which makes her a good guy. Kumagawa wants to destroy a bunch of people, which makes him bad.... But is he? After all, he just wants to make sure everyone is equal, and equality is a good thing. See what I'm getting at? For people like Emukae, who was shunned by society, he must have seemed like a hero, someone who would create a society where the hopeless have hope. I don't agree with anything Kumagawa does, but you can also understand where he's coming from. Picture if you were cursed to fail at everything you're entire life, you'd probably want to bring the high and mighty who seem blessed down a notch as well and Medaka is as high and mighty as there is (and her overconfident personality just adds fuel to the fire). It's why I don't really see this as a battle of good vs evil. It's more of a battle of the haves vs. the have-nots, which has been waged since the beginning of humanity (and even before... animals fight over stuff, too).
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2011-03-02, 05:09 | Link #3256 |
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It seems that this is the "true" Kumagawa. If he is defeated in this match it would seem that his role in the story would end (unless he turns into a good guy). After all since this is his "real" power, how much higher can he get? Since we still have the other 10 minus plus Shiranui, I think that possibly a new villain will lead the remaining minus. Unless Kumagawa wipes the floor with Medaka with his new power. What do others think of this theory?
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2011-03-02, 07:06 | Link #3257 | ||
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but if she for some reason would, none could stop her, the most powerfull always win, only basing on powers she is the most powerfull of all the most to do agains't her is to speak it out for a draw but in my opinion she's something like a guardian of powers balance see as she helped both zenkichi and kumagawa, she give fair chances to both good and evil (even if she said that even with that evil will lose anyway) so her doing something directly would unbalance the balance she is creating EDIT. on a side note, have you noticed the balance in ajimus plus vs minus? she's plus oriented, so i think she's good in the end (unless her balance change...) Quote:
kumagawa: equally miserable, evil, sad medaka: equally successful, good, happy kumagawa aim to solve the lack of equality, removing the high part (bringing all down) madaka "removing" the bottom (bringing all up) in a way, they are complementary, acting at the same time they togheter bring equality for neutrals, and a mid way for both plus and minus Last edited by zeando; 2011-03-02 at 07:28. |
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2011-03-02, 07:56 | Link #3258 | |
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And I think in the end, Zenkichi will be the mid-point-- which is where all the theories about him being a "Zero" comes in. He can see both sides of the Plus/Minus war. In some ways, his personality reminds me of a de-powered Ajimu. She has both plusses and minuses, but favors the plus side (though Kumagawa only meets her negative side). Zenkichi, while not having the powers she has, still can sympathize with both plus and minus but obviously favors the plus side due to Medaka. Something tells me that if they never met, Zen could have easily become a minus himself.
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I think, the main difference between plus and minus abnormality is the direction of their development: Plus abnormalities manifest inside the Abnormal´s own body, while minus abnormalities manifest outside. But I suspect, that a plus abnormality can become so strong, it influence the outside, while a Minus abnormality will grow inside (which, of course, will make Shibiku´s life a bloody hell or eventually erase Kumagawa´s existence!) Quote:
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Yeah, right. In any case, their is always the second most important fact in a battle manga: Having hax power is one thing, using it successfully another one. How it was glorious shown in Jojo´s Bizarre Adventures: Sometimes even an hax power is not enough to save your ass, in a fight of brains. There is of course another alternative: Quote:
No really, since the second battle, I want to see them fighting together just for the luz! |
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2011-03-02, 09:34 | Link #3260 | |
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well, it's true there isn't a direct bound to plus/minus, good/evil
i think being plus oriented make ajimu being more on the plus side, the side of medaka and of everyone who can be reformed, not so hard as minuses, whose try more to resist Quote:
yeah maybe medaka isn't making anyone successful, but focusing more on being happy, maybe thinking being happy means being successful :/ boh.. again about ajimu, personally don't see what's so bad about her, judjing only her actions she has helped both zenkichi and kumagawa (<-- in a way has made kumagawa happy) words alone means nothing, even if with those she still creeps me xD Last edited by zeando; 2011-03-02 at 09:45. |
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