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static-flare · 2007-08-09, 08:14

I just found out that the vegetable country arc from 187 to 191 has something that clashes with the shipuuden storyline. If you were to watch episode 190, you will realise that the enemy uses iron sand. But according to shippuuden storyine, the third kazekage was the only person that knows how to use iron sand technique. Sasori also said that he is interested in making the third kazekage a puppet of his solely on this reason. So why is it that the fatty enemy in the vegetable country arc know how to use iron sand techniques?
anyone has any comment on this?

Sabaku Kyu · 2007-08-09, 08:38

This is why anime fillers aren't considered canon. That episode of Naruto aired way after the Iron Sand ability was introduced in the manga. The anime team lifted the Iron Sand technique from the manga and gave it to some random shinobi despite the manga stating that it was unique to 3rd Kazekage. Of course, the way it is used in the filler is much different from how it is used in the manga.

OMG_Zerg_Rush · 2007-08-09, 08:40

I think you will find that the filler eps are filled with contradiction, including a rather large one to do with the Rasengan IIRC.
Its best just to ignore everything that happened in the filler eps, everything will make more sence that way.
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Itachi-evil · 2007-08-09, 10:24

Lol, those damn fillers ruined Naruto-anime for me anyways.
Just bad-quality animation, contradiction etc. etc.
I just watched a couple of those fillers, and quitted instantly then.

Now i only read the manga, unless there is a scene with Itachi, then i will watch the animated scene for it

ILikeSquiReLz · 2007-08-09, 11:37

I don't think it's filler related, but here is another one.

Chiyo-ba said that the Iron Sand Jutsu is unique only to the former host of the Shukaku. Who was killed by Sasori, and we know that if the demon is extracted the host dies. It was also stated that they never found a trace of the Sandaime Kazekage. So how did they get the Shukaku back to place it in Gaara?

Terrestrial Dream · 2007-08-09, 12:38

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Originally Posted by ILikeSquiReLz

I don't think it's filler related, but here is another one.

Chiyo-ba said that the Iron Sand Jutsu is unique only to the former host of the Shukaku. Who was killed by Sasori, and we know that if the demon is extracted the host dies. It was also stated that they never found a trace of the Sandaime Kazekage. So how did they get the Shukaku back to place it in Gaara?

No I think you misheard it, I didn't watch the anime but in the manga Chiyo say that Sandamie Kazekage's iron sand was base on the justsu of former host of Shukaku.

Slayerx · 2007-08-09, 12:53

Ya there are contradictions...
Another contradiction, in Shipuuden, Kakashi and Naruto are both completely dumbfounded by Sakura's strength... however, Sakura displayed super stength when she tore off a mast (i think, not sure) in one of the ealier(before the big filler season) fillers. Obviously it took Saskura a long time to develop that stength, but the anime team decided to throw it in there.

Really i didn't watch the majority of the filler season, but i'd be willing to bet i'd find a number of contradictions if i did watch em'

ILikeSquiReLz · 2007-08-09, 13:02

I could have missed it, it's been awhile since I read that chapter in the Manga. But wouldn't that still be a contradiction to him being the only one to have had such an ability.

Just to Clarify, you are saying it's a jutsu based on one of the Shukaku's former host's jutsu? Or that it's a jutsu based from former Shukaku hosts?

And if you have it off the top of your head. Could you please direct me to the Manga chapter? Thanks =)

Terrestrial Dream · 2007-08-09, 13:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILikeSquiReLz

I could have missed it, it's been awhile since I read that chapter in the Manga. But wouldn't that still be a contradiction to him being the only one to have had such an ability.

Just to Clarify, you are saying it's a jutsu based on one of the Shukaku's former host's jutsu? Or that it's a jutsu based from former Shukaku hosts?

And if you have it off the top of your head. Could you please direct me to the Manga chapter? Thanks =)

Based from former Shukaku host's, from what I remember before Garra all of the Shukaku host used sand to attack not to defend or I could be wrong. And I think it was chapter 268

ILikeSquiReLz · 2007-08-09, 13:42

Thanks, I will have to re-read that and compare it with what was said on the anime.

xcad · 2007-08-10, 10:43

maybe the fat man who used his technique, did NOT use iron SAND. he just used iron itself. nt necessary sand. possibly just iron fillings or iron grains.

however, it could be that the 3rd kazekage mastered it while the fat man stumbled into this technique.

sakura always had strength(comes from inner sakura i guess) just unrefined and under developed.

static-flare · 2007-08-11, 06:12

Well..Its true that there are alot of filler contradiction..seriously..the anime team really need to make up for all their mistakes..not continue making them..

Kalimah · 2007-08-11, 15:28

yeah fillers are going to have contradictions...they were written fast and desperately to keep up production to keep people "satisfied" i dont watch ANY of the fillers for this reason, it's not originally in kishimoto's story...i dont care for it.... ok ok i will admit to watching the movies ^_^

2007-08-09, 08:14	Link #1
static-flare Member Join Date: Sep 2006	[ANIME]Fillers in naruto season 1 has something that contradicts with shipuuden story I just found out that the vegetable country arc from 187 to 191 has something that clashes with the shipuuden storyline. If you were to watch episode 190, you will realise that the enemy uses iron sand. But according to shippuuden storyine, the third kazekage was the only person that knows how to use iron sand technique. Sasori also said that he is interested in making the third kazekage a puppet of his solely on this reason. So why is it that the fatty enemy in the vegetable country arc know how to use iron sand techniques? anyone has any comment on this?

2007-08-09, 08:40	Link #3
OMG_Zerg_Rush Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Australia	I think you will find that the filler eps are filled with contradiction, including a rather large one to do with the Rasengan IIRC. Its best just to ignore everything that happened in the filler eps, everything will make more sence that way. ________ Medical marijuana seeds Last edited by OMG_Zerg_Rush; 2011-03-21 at 15:01.

2007-08-09, 08:38	Link #2
Sabaku Kyu The Ironman Join Date: Sep 2006	This is why anime fillers aren't considered canon. That episode of Naruto aired way after the Iron Sand ability was introduced in the manga. The anime team lifted the Iron Sand technique from the manga and gave it to some random shinobi despite the manga stating that it was unique to 3rd Kazekage. Of course, the way it is used in the filler is much different from how it is used in the manga.

2007-08-09, 10:24	Link #4
Itachi-evil Banned Join Date: Aug 2007	Lol, those damn fillers ruined Naruto-anime for me anyways. Just bad-quality animation, contradiction etc. etc. I just watched a couple of those fillers, and quitted instantly then. Now i only read the manga, unless there is a scene with Itachi, then i will watch the animated scene for it

2007-08-09, 11:37	Link #5
ILikeSquiReLz <ˆ>(`;´)<ˆ> Join Date: Sep 2004	I don't think it's filler related, but here is another one. Chiyo-ba said that the Iron Sand Jutsu is unique only to the former host of the Shukaku. Who was killed by Sasori, and we know that if the demon is extracted the host dies. It was also stated that they never found a trace of the Sandaime Kazekage. So how did they get the Shukaku back to place it in Gaara?

2007-08-09, 12:53	Link #7
Slayerx Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Ya there are contradictions... Another contradiction, in Shipuuden, Kakashi and Naruto are both completely dumbfounded by Sakura's strength... however, Sakura displayed super stength when she tore off a mast (i think, not sure) in one of the ealier(before the big filler season) fillers. Obviously it took Saskura a long time to develop that stength, but the anime team decided to throw it in there. Really i didn't watch the majority of the filler season, but i'd be willing to bet i'd find a number of contradictions if i did watch em'

2007-08-09, 13:02	Link #8
ILikeSquiReLz <ˆ>(`;´)<ˆ> Join Date: Sep 2004	I could have missed it, it's been awhile since I read that chapter in the Manga. But wouldn't that still be a contradiction to him being the only one to have had such an ability. Just to Clarify, you are saying it's a jutsu based on one of the Shukaku's former host's jutsu? Or that it's a jutsu based from former Shukaku hosts? And if you have it off the top of your head. Could you please direct me to the Manga chapter? Thanks =)

2007-08-09, 13:42	Link #10
ILikeSquiReLz <ˆ>(`;´)<ˆ> Join Date: Sep 2004	Thanks, I will have to re-read that and compare it with what was said on the anime.

2007-08-10, 10:43	Link #11
xcad Member Join Date: Mar 2007	maybe the fat man who used his technique, did NOT use iron SAND. he just used iron itself. nt necessary sand. possibly just iron fillings or iron grains. however, it could be that the 3rd kazekage mastered it while the fat man stumbled into this technique. sakura always had strength(comes from inner sakura i guess) just unrefined and under developed.

2007-08-11, 06:12	Link #12
static-flare Member Join Date: Sep 2006	Well..Its true that there are alot of filler contradiction..seriously..the anime team really need to make up for all their mistakes..not continue making them..

2007-08-11, 15:28	Link #13
Kalimah Fallen Idol Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: texas	yeah fillers are going to have contradictions...they were written fast and desperately to keep up production to keep people "satisfied" i dont watch ANY of the fillers for this reason, it's not originally in kishimoto's story...i dont care for it.... ok ok i will admit to watching the movies ^_^