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Old 2020-10-03, 03:11   Link #21
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The PV has always been promising, and I like the main character. The battle was pretty cool though this is episode 1 and everyone brings out their best for episodes 1 and 12, but it's a good start.

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Old 2020-10-03, 17:10   Link #22
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Well the teaching felt a bit short, I wish it had gone over a few episodes rather than stopping right at the beginning.
I also wonder why she was surprised all the other witches were envious... I mean they are witches
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Old 2020-10-03, 18:25   Link #23
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I don't think she really needed some kind of lesson. But maybe they cut out all of her school days content or something, cause they didn't really show she was struck up or had any issues in the first half.
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Old 2020-10-03, 18:26   Link #24
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Well the teaching felt a bit short, I wish it had gone over a few episodes rather than stopping right at the beginning.
I also wonder why she was surprised all the other witches were envious... I mean they are witches
Being a witch doesn't seem to have a negative connotation in this world. They wouldn't have schools to teach people magic otherwise. I wonder if there are wizards too or if only women can learn magic for some reason. I assume we'll find out soon enough.
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Old 2020-10-03, 19:03   Link #25
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Can we not overlook the complete slimeball actions of Elaina's parents? Paying someone to make her fail? I mean, I had a rough patch with my parents over whether I was going to pursue writing or engineering, but they never attempted to make me fail. But Elaina never even says anything about it, and when she goes back to her parents after her apprenticeship, everything is fine (apart from the crying dad). Maybe she worked through it during the eleven months she was training, but it would have been nice to see some of that, or at least have it mentioned.
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Old 2020-10-03, 19:25   Link #26
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Can we not overlook the complete slimeball actions of Elaina's parents? Paying someone to make her fail? I mean, I had a rough patch with my parents over whether I was going to pursue writing or engineering, but they never attempted to make me fail.
May be you where fully capable of failing all by yourself, without outside help?

As far as I understood they wanted her to learn that she is capable of failure, that she is not all capable god. And do so under controlled circumstances, not when her inability to consider the possibility of failure will cost people around and herself their lives. She is the strongest witch in entire kingdom at 15. Have to learn some responsibility.
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Old 2020-10-03, 19:27   Link #27
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Can we not overlook the complete slimeball actions of Elaina's parents? Paying someone to make her fail? I mean, I had a rough patch with my parents over whether I was going to pursue writing or engineering, but they never attempted to make me fail. But Elaina never even says anything about it, and when she goes back to her parents after her apprenticeship, everything is fine (apart from the crying dad). Maybe she worked through it during the eleven months she was training, but it would have been nice to see some of that, or at least have it mentioned.
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May be you where fully capable of failing all by yourself, without outside help?

As far as I understood they wanted her to learn that she is capable of failure, that she is not all capable god. And do so under controlled circumstances, not when her inability to consider the possibility of failure will cost people around and herself their lives. She is the strongest witch in entire kingdom at 15. Have to learn some responsibility.
yeah that is the point she is a "prodigy", which make her a little "too dangerous" for herself and others around her if she don't proper learn about "failure" and others negative aspects the same way which she as many prodigies showed not being too much a "emotional person" and being too focused on her dream of jorney".

also for comparation with manga
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Old 2020-10-03, 19:47   Link #28
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As far as I understood they wanted her to learn that she is capable of failure, that she is not all capable god. And do so under controlled circumstances, not when her inability to consider the possibility of failure will cost people around and herself their lives. She is the strongest witch in entire kingdom at 15. Have to learn some responsibility.
You give them a lot of credit, and ascribe a pretty high-minded attitude to them which I didn't think was in evidence. From where I was sitting, it just looked like they'd never expected her to hold them to their promise that she could go traveling, and were playing dirty to keep from having to honor it.

Would have been nice to have the characters talk about it for a few lines, because then we wouldn't all be here guessing.
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Old 2020-10-03, 20:40   Link #29
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high-minded attitude to them which I didn't think was in evidence.
They got high ranked witch from another country to teach her. Sounds like providing best possible education opportunity. Aside from conversation with Fran there is also the second promise: not to think of oneself as someone special.
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Would have been nice to have the characters talk about it for a few lines, because then we wouldn't all be here guessing.
I do agree it is not clear, but suspect the reason may be cultural differences. Or may be this is foreshadowing for future drama, Madoka-style?
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Old 2020-10-03, 20:59   Link #30
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I liked this more than I expected too. Fran's lessons to Elaine were nice ones and ones I think are good to keep in mind.
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Old 2020-10-04, 01:02   Link #31
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I don't think she really needed some kind of lesson.
Her mistake was to say that the other candidates are weak and it'll only be a matter of time before she becomes a witch. It might only be an observation of fact, but you can see why her parents may think this is the beginning of an unhealthy streak borne by one who has never tasted failure.

It's that kind of thinking that goes down better to Japanese rather than Western viewers, especially those who claim to know Modern Pedagogy. To her credit, the teacher seems to be suspecting halfway through the exercise her parents may have taken things too seriously.
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Old 2020-10-04, 11:00   Link #32
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That battle segment was really nicely done. I actually liked it more than Dragon Quest and King's Raid (and even God of High School aside from the Monkey King fight). Heck, it's right up there with the above-average shounen fights.

Agreed that this episode could have been fleshed out into 2 eps or so for the first segment. Hope we also get a bit of worldbuilding.
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Old 2020-10-04, 12:12   Link #33
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You give them a lot of credit, and ascribe a pretty high-minded attitude to them which I didn't think was in evidence. From where I was sitting, it just looked like they'd never expected her to hold them to their promise that she could go traveling, and were playing dirty to keep from having to honor it.

Would have been nice to have the characters talk about it for a few lines, because then we wouldn't all be here guessing.
My take on it is the same as Dharma's. They didn't want to stop her from becoming a witch, they just wanted her to experience failure so she doesn't grow too arrogant. The evidence? No witches wanted to take Elaina as an apprentice, so she would have never become a witch if they hadn't hired Fran. They could have just let things be.
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Old 2020-10-05, 04:46   Link #34
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She is going to teach this little cutie a lot of various things
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Old 2020-10-05, 17:12   Link #35
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My take on it is the same as Dharma's. They didn't want to stop her from becoming a witch, they just wanted her to experience failure so she doesn't grow too arrogant. The evidence? No witches wanted to take Elaina as an apprentice, so she would have never become a witch if they hadn't hired Fran. They could have just let things be.
That seemed more a problem of the other witches than Elaina. No one wanted to take on a prodigy and become the footnote in her meteoric rise to fame. Plus it seems hilariously contrary to Fran's message that Elaina shouldn't endure. The only way those witches would have accepted her if she did demean herself and endure pretending she wasn't insanely talented.

I kind of get the parents, but I also think it was bad form on their part. And for all their efforts it doesn't seem like it paid off. Promise #2 was broken by the freaking monologue to end the episode .

And honestly I think the Dad legitimately only cared about someone stopping Elaina from becoming a witch so she wouldn't be free to leave on a journey. I really doubt he was concerned about her becoming arrogant...

Regardless I'm glad the story can leave the parents behind. Pros and cons to them. But won't be missing them in the slightest.
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Old 2020-10-05, 17:44   Link #36
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I kind of get the parents, but I also think it was bad form on their part. And for all their efforts it doesn't seem like it paid off. Promise #2 was broken by the freaking monologue to end the episode .
Quoted for truth. But it was not the only dissonant note there. Just sloppy writing or shadow of something that is going bite our heads off?
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Regardless I'm glad the story can leave the parents behind. Pros and cons to them. But won't be missing them in the slightest.
Before next episode preview I was thinking her mother was witch but lost her power, but if witchpower is unrelated to haircolor that seems a bit less likely.
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Old 2020-10-09, 11:33   Link #37
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Old 2020-10-09, 12:04   Link #38
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New key visual is up for the upcoming anime. More info coming next month in April

Haven't paid attention to this series, because I think I've seen the manga and was turned off by it...

But I've seen that high-res background art before. If that's not Uchio Kazumasa's art, I will be very surprised.

EDIT: Yep, here we are. Not the same picture precisely, but you can tell with that building on the left that it is clearly the same artist modifying some of his previously existing assets.
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Old 2020-10-09, 13:04   Link #39
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My thoughts are that this week's story is not awafully interesting, and that our dear main character is maturing too fast. She is supposed to be 15 but frankly her actions and tonals this week can pass for 25.
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Old 2020-10-09, 13:05   Link #40
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My thoughts are that this week's story is not awafully interesting, and that our dear main character is maturing too fast. She is supposed to be 15 but frankly her actions and tonals this week can pass for 25.
Eh......She's 18 at the end of previous ep.
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