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**Klashikari** · 2012-01-25, 15:01

BATTLER is hardly your random meta character: he is the only one who managed to blast goats en masse, while Will and Dlanor had difficulties to do so on the longrun.
This and "that punch".

Nowhere close to creator or traveler witches, but potentially the strongest "ushiromiya and furnitures" character, closely followed by Beato, Ange and Maria.

Azule · 2012-01-25, 16:30

BATTLER was unable to mow down the goats again, though. Sure, he had a powerful first strike, but after that all he had was a punch whilst his sword charged. If his first strike missed, then he'd be an above average "ushiromiya and furnitures" character, but by no means the strongest. I'd say that the Siesta troops are probably among the strongest, seeing as they could mow down anyone apart from the endless magic users with one hit.

Nanashi_1337 · 2012-01-25, 17:34

I'm still trying to find somebody that has made a joke about that Falcon Punch to Bern's face.

orangejuicetang · 2012-01-25, 20:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azule

I'd say that the Siesta troops are probably among the strongest, seeing as they could mow down anyone apart from the endless magic users with one hit.

nitpick, they couldn't take out Erika in the last battle, and Erika's not an endless magic user.

Snow_Storm · 2012-01-25, 21:16

I will love all of you guys forever if you translate the before and after fight quotes!
Keep them coming!

U Metal · 2012-01-25, 21:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snow_Storm

I will love all of you guys forever if you translate the before and after fight quotes!
Keep them coming!

+1

I'm loving Ronove's and B.Battler's quotes the most as of yet, along with Kanon and Shannon's initial declarations. Can't wait to see the rest, thanks for taking the time to translate them.

SonozakiUshiromiya · 2012-01-25, 21:30

Restating an old idea of Battler being simply edited instead of creating a whole new character cause lol. Just change his C attacks to slashes and his Meta Super to him firing a giant Gold, not Blue, Truth laser. Less work for 07th Expansion and (presumably)less waiting time for us.

SilverSyko · 2012-01-25, 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Ayane~

If they wanted to make a superboss, then Featherinne is the only choice, but if they wanted her to be a normal character, then that also would be possible.
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I could definitely see Featherine as the ultimate challenge of the game considering she's so overpowered in the context of Umineko's world. Just being able to manipulate the world to her liking, not put any effort into fighting at all and still be victorious.

In that case though she shouldn't be playable, have no swap-out partner, and her maximum health should decrease every time you lose to her and try again. Sort of like Parace L'sia from Arcana Heart 3:

Spoiler for Arcana Heart 3 video:

Fuck this bitch. Seriously. It's unbelievable how many times I had to retry before I could actually beat her, even with the handicap. Frustrating as hell. But it's oh-so-satisfying when you do finally bring her down.

But anyway, from that video you should be able to easily agree Featherine would be an appropriate character like that for Golden Fantasia no?

Revelation · 2012-01-25, 22:36

I imagine the reason that there's still no Featherine is because she would fight like this....

Spoiler for :P:

Also, did anyone ever manage to upload a video on Youtube beating the final B. Battler to see what's after? Thanks.

immblueversion · 2012-01-25, 23:45

Naw, Featherine fighting would be more like this (skip to the 10:45 mark of the video):

~Ayane~ · 2012-01-26, 00:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Golden Dream

I imagine the reason that there's still no Featherine is because she would fight like this....

Spoiler for :P:

Haha, I just wanted to post that!
But I wanted to emphasize the end of that video.
I would SO laugh my ass of if Featherinne turned out to be oneshotkill character but on the other hand a character that is completely useless as long as you don't let her charge.
God, I actually want that to happen so much.

Walterion · 2012-01-26, 06:02

Ougon patch comes out today, so far from the information given it will contain:

Black Battler in your system voice.
Black Battler in your online play.
Black Battler in your balance slot.
Black Battler all across the board.

GospelDS · 2012-01-26, 06:14

New tweets from 07th Expansion!

"本日深夜に夢想曲のパッチを配布させて頂く予定です。今回のパッチでキャラの微調整＆ネット対戦で黒き戦人が使えるようになります。ぜひ、遊んでみてください！（07thStaff）"

"また、黒き戦人が解放されていれば、システムボイスも自動で追加されますので、よろしければコンフィグから選択してみてください！（07thStaff）"

So, the new patch will be released at midnight (Japan) and will add character fine tuning as well as Black Battler for Network mode (finally!!). Furthermore, the second tweet says something about additional system voices, if I'm not mistaken.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walterion

Ougon patch comes out today, so far from the information given it will contain:

Black Battler in your system voice.
Black Battler in your online play.
Black Battler in your balance slot.
Black Battler all across the board.

Seems like you were a little faster than me XD"

Nanashi_1337 · 2012-01-26, 06:15

Quote:

Black Battler in your system voice.

Heck yeah, I really wanted to make this my default voice. And finally, I can use him online!

Also, appreciated the balance patches. Though I wonder what they balanced in this new patch.

Walterion · 2012-01-26, 10:11

New patch is out.

http://07th-expansion.net/cross/Main.htm for the patch.

The notes:

・黒き戦人がネットワーク対戦で使用可能になりました。
　・黒き戦人のシステムボイスが追加されました。(黒き戦人が解放されている事が条件です)
　・空中ガード後も地上と同様の投げ無効フレームが設定されました。
　・空中ガード後の硬直が延長されました。
　・アタックタッチが空中ガード不可属性に変更されました。

　・ネットワーク対戦時に選択したBGMが反映されない不具合を修正しました。
　・ネットワーク内のトレーニングモードで体力設定が反映されない不具合を修正しました。
　・その他、細かな不具合を修正しました。

If someone can translate these, please, it would be helpful. Not trusting Google translator at all.

U Metal · 2012-01-26, 11:03

B.Battler's culprit move has been changed. I THINK it deals less damage (not too sure, 480 against Beatrice now) and it knocks the opponent up at the end regardless of well, everything. Also, it seems to last shorter... but that might be the opponent being knocked up at the last hit giving that illusion.

Other than that, I'm not sure, Google Translate gives gibberish aside from the things we already knew.

**Klashikari** · 2012-01-26, 11:22

No, the damage wasn't affected, but it indeed force a knockdown, which isn't too bad (combo finished so to speak). The number of hit is the same though.

Translations:

-Black Battler is now playable for Network mode.
-Black Battler's system voice has been added (this requires Black Battler to be unlocked first)
-A throw invalid frame has been added after an air guard, similar to the one on ground.
-Block stun after an air guard has been extended (they use 硬直, which means rigidity, stiffness, petrification, so should be that).
-The attribute of Attack touch move against an air guard has been changed.

-The glitch that prevented BGM selection for Network play has been fixed.
-The glitch that didn't apply the life bar settings for training during network play has been fixed
-Other issues have been fixed.

Tong · 2012-01-26, 11:26

07th-expansion.net/cross/patch/cross_v201.zip

RIP B.Battler SP2.
Thanks for the translations Klashikari

SkullClad · 2012-01-26, 11:27

Ah thanks, didn't know this rule.

So, in short, just general gameplay, not specific tweaks?

**Klashikari** · 2012-01-26, 11:27

The SP2 is still potent enough for end combo damage and stun damage. It isn't as vanilla as other regular damaging SP2.

And no, they didn't give details of the other possible changes or specific tweaks.

2012-01-25, 15:01	Link #2621
Klashikari 阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv180 Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belgium, Brussels Age: 37	BATTLER is hardly your random meta character: he is the only one who managed to blast goats en masse, while Will and Dlanor had difficulties to do so on the longrun. This and "that punch". Nowhere close to creator or traveler witches, but potentially the strongest "ushiromiya and furnitures" character, closely followed by Beato, Ange and Maria. __________________ [Sig art: Kagura Yuu, Nunukko, Maku Rako & Mishima Kurone] / [Twitter]

2012-01-25, 16:30	Link #2622
Azule Golden Witch Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: The Future Gadget Lab	BATTLER was unable to mow down the goats again, though. Sure, he had a powerful first strike, but after that all he had was a punch whilst his sword charged. If his first strike missed, then he'd be an above average "ushiromiya and furnitures" character, but by no means the strongest. I'd say that the Siesta troops are probably among the strongest, seeing as they could mow down anyone apart from the endless magic users with one hit. __________________ Total Seacat Island A not-so-average Umineko gameboard

2012-01-25, 21:16	Link #2625
Snow_Storm Welcome to primetime! Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: St. Louis Age: 34	I will love all of you guys forever if you translate the before and after fight quotes! Keep them coming! __________________

2012-01-25, 21:30	Link #2627
SonozakiUshiromiya Reading your tale. :) Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Just out of sight, eating popcorn. >:D	Restating an old idea of Battler being simply edited instead of creating a whole new character cause lol. Just change his C attacks to slashes and his Meta Super to him firing a giant Gold, not Blue, Truth laser. Less work for 07th Expansion and (presumably)less waiting time for us. __________________

2012-01-25, 22:36	Link #2629
Revelation lorem ipsum dolor sit ame Artist Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: CA, USA Age: 29	I imagine the reason that there's still no Featherine is because she would fight like this.... Spoiler for :P: <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/2Hdlgmq_coQ">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> Also, did anyone ever manage to upload a video on Youtube beating the final B. Battler to see what's after? Thanks. __________________

2012-01-25, 17:34	Link #2623
Nanashi_1337 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011	I'm still trying to find somebody that has made a joke about that Falcon Punch to Bern's face.

2012-01-25, 23:45	Link #2630
immblueversion Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Where you're not.	Naw, Featherine fighting would be more like this (skip to the 10:45 mark of the video): <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/FRbTCmKMHew">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> __________________ I'm not the boss. I just know what you should be doing.

2012-01-26, 06:02	Link #2632
Walterion Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011	Ougon patch comes out today, so far from the information given it will contain: Black Battler in your system voice. Black Battler in your online play. Black Battler in your balance slot. Black Battler all across the board.

2012-01-26, 10:11	Link #2635
Walterion Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011	New patch is out. http://07th-expansion.net/cross/Main.htm for the patch. The notes: ・黒き戦人がネットワーク対戦で使用可能になりました。　・黒き戦人のシステムボイスが追加されました。(黒き戦人が解放されている事が条件です) 　・空中ガード後も地上と同様の投げ無効フレームが設定されました。　・空中ガード後の硬直が延長されました。　・アタックタッチが空中ガード不可属性に変更されました。　・ネットワーク対戦時に選択したBGMが反映されない不具合を修正しました。　・ネットワーク内のトレーニングモードで体力設定が反映されない不具合を修正しました。　・その他、細かな不具合を修正しました。 If someone can translate these, please, it would be helpful. Not trusting Google translator at all.

2012-01-26, 11:03	Link #2636
U Metal Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012	B.Battler's culprit move has been changed. I THINK it deals less damage (not too sure, 480 against Beatrice now) and it knocks the opponent up at the end regardless of well, everything. Also, it seems to last shorter... but that might be the opponent being knocked up at the last hit giving that illusion. Other than that, I'm not sure, Google Translate gives gibberish aside from the things we already knew.

2012-01-26, 11:22	Link #2637
Klashikari 阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv180 Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belgium, Brussels Age: 37	No, the damage wasn't affected, but it indeed force a knockdown, which isn't too bad (combo finished so to speak). The number of hit is the same though. Translations: -Black Battler is now playable for Network mode. -Black Battler's system voice has been added (this requires Black Battler to be unlocked first) -A throw invalid frame has been added after an air guard, similar to the one on ground. -Block stun after an air guard has been extended (they use 硬直, which means rigidity, stiffness, petrification, so should be that). -The attribute of Attack touch move against an air guard has been changed. -The glitch that prevented BGM selection for Network play has been fixed. -The glitch that didn't apply the life bar settings for training during network play has been fixed -Other issues have been fixed. __________________ [Sig art: Kagura Yuu, Nunukko, Maku Rako & Mishima Kurone] / [Twitter]

2012-01-26, 11:26	Link #2638
Tong Many RPGs, Little Time Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: BR Age: 32	07th-expansion.net/cross/patch/cross_v201.zip RIP B.Battler SP2. Thanks for the translations Klashikari __________________

2012-01-26, 11:27	Link #2639
SkullClad Shadow Keeper Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: South America, Brazil Age: 33	Ah thanks, didn't know this rule. So, in short, just general gameplay, not specific tweaks?

2012-01-26, 11:27	Link #2640
Klashikari 阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv180 Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belgium, Brussels Age: 37	The SP2 is still potent enough for end combo damage and stun damage. It isn't as vanilla as other regular damaging SP2. And no, they didn't give details of the other possible changes or specific tweaks. __________________ [Sig art: Kagura Yuu, Nunukko, Maku Rako & Mishima Kurone] / [Twitter]