Code Geass R2 - Episode 25 Discussion / Poll [END]

[Nogitsune]

Originally Posted by Kittenlady

They're both snarky tsuntsuns <3 They might be nicer than they act, but they're still prickly and cold to most people.

Hm, but couldn't something similar be said about Suzaku when he was a child and during the second season? I mean, he wasn't exactly snarky, but couldn't you call that "bitchy" regardless?

...All right, I shouldn't obsess over this. It's just that I personally don't like the term due to its history.

Thanks for clarifying!

[azul120]

C. C. is actually a Kuudere.

And Suzaku between those two periods lacked the necessary dere quotient.

[Arbitres]

Spoiler for Zero Requiem:

I felt the whole ideology was on the right track, but it lacked the right person to do it. Lelouch had a death wish, and he wanted the quickest way out. (Quickest doesn't equal effective.) Though his methods were less then favorable, he should be acknowledged in the least; that he tried to change the world.

Other then that, yes C.C. is a kuudere. They are generally 'aloof' or 'icy'. Which can be considered 'bitchy'.

[Nogitsune]

Originally Posted by azul120

And Suzaku between those two periods lacked the necessary dere quotient.

Well, I was only talking about the "bitchy" thing, but yeah, agreed. xD

@Arbitres: Well, everything can be considered "bitchy", which is why I always wince at the term when used in such a context. It just doesn't get along well with my inner feminist.

Edit: Though little!Suzaku sure had a "dere" side.

[azul120]

Jerk With A Heart Of Gold is for failed or borderline (more on the side of tsun, of course) cases of Tsundere. Inuyasha seems to be a decent example.

[Nogitsune]

Originally Posted by azul120

Jerk With A Heart Of Gold is for failed or borderline cases.

Ah, glad to have learned something new. xD

Though I sure wouldn't know where to draw the line.

[Arbitres]

Oh verdammt, did I sound hostile again? That wasn't intentional. I meant to convey... oh sod it, shutting up now.

Edit: Though little!Suzaku sure had a "dere" side.

...And to think little Suzaku would grow up to be one seriously messed up individual... This is somewhat off topic, or is it just me?

[azul120]

TVTropes helps. (Though some examples are naturally meant to be put under scrutiny.) Added to my post a little, btw.

[Nogitsune]

Originally Posted by Arbitres

Oh verdammt, did I sound hostile again? That wasn't intentional. I meant to convey... oh sod it, shutting up now.

Hostile? o.o
No, not at all. If I sounded as if I felt you were, I apologize.

...And to think little Suzaku would grow up to be one seriously messed up individual... This is somewhat off topic, or is it just me?

Hum... I think you have a point there. xD

Originally Posted by azul120

TVTropes helps. (Though some examples are naturally meant to be put under scrutiny.) Added to my post a little, btw.

But tvtropes says one major difference is that the "jerk with a heart of gold" isn't nice to certain people, but in certain situations. However, little!Suzaku stopped being a jerk once he got closer to Lelouch, and always had a very obvious soft spot for Nunnally. *titles her head*
...Oh, whatever. xD I guess we should get back to topic.

[wren2x]

I like Lelouch's statement about destroying the world and creating it anew. Contradicting statements but it makes sense.

[streiter]

Someone know what is the music which begin when suzaku stabs lelouch before "continued story"???

I haven't find it!!

[Roloko vi Britannia]

Originally Posted by streiter

Someone know what is the music which begin when suzaku stabs lelouch before "continued story"???

I haven't find it!!

its called Madder Sky

[Kittenlady]

I think they mean the piano bit, which for some stupid reason isn't on any OST's. Youtube search 'Lelouch death piano'.

[streiter]

Originally Posted by Roloko vi Britannia

its called Madder Sky

Sorry but the music i'm looking for is played between Madder sky and Continued Story.

Kittenlady, I find it in youtube but by bad quality

Thanks for your responses, I'll search more...

[Roloko vi Britannia]

Originally Posted by streiter

Sorry but the music i'm looking for is played between Madder sky and Continued Story.

Kittenlady, I find it in youtube but by bad quality

Thanks for your responses, I'll search more...

it wasn't included in the OSTs from what I read on the comments from youtube. It kinda sucks such a nice song was left out.

[Arbitres]

Hmm.. I was wondering.

Spoiler for Wondering:

Does anyone know the time of when Lelouch held the Zero mask to Suzaku? If so could someone get a HQ screenshot/screencap of it?

Madder Sky is pretty, but I actually prefer the intense and spiraling of Noblesse Oblige most of the time. Though this is getting off topic. :P We should bring this to the music section and not the Episode 25 discuss if we gotta do this further. The Madder Sky worship I mean.

[ashe]

whoa! just finished it! at least Cornelia-sama is alive!
Damn that was a killer twist!

[azul120]

Though she didn't really deserve to be for what she was responsible for, for which she never really atoned or repented.

[Arbitres]

There are a lot of karma houdinis in Code Geass. An example is Nina - who made a nuclear warhead that killed a good deal of people.

Another example is Villeta and Ohgi, who basically put Lelouch on the path to Zero Requiem - That itself is a horrible sin.

One more example is Schneizel, who is pretty self-explanatory -- who wanted a flying fortress to rule the world after nuking his country's capital.

A lot of characters survived. But I'm glad the one with the worst karma did die.

[Rising Dragon]

Nina isn't a karma houdini; calling someone that implies they did horrible things and never repented, or try to repent, for what they did. Nina, however, had an epiphany about what she had created and put forth all her energies into trying to make a counter to it, which she succeeded for. She may not be redeemed by this act, but she at least put forth the effort.