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~~DuelGundam2099~~ · 2013-04-26, 08:06

I just watched the new episode and.... Hmm, nothing interesting aside from L-Elfs roflstomping over the military.

kivredia · 2013-04-26, 08:18

Aside from all the train wreck and being all over the place it gets more entertaining every week.

Now, am I the only one who even thinks that Shouko might have turned him down from the very beginning? There is no clear sign that she actually feels the same way, maybe she was/is considering it but feeling a little embarrassed about a confession isn't that surprising. She could have just confessed to him in those scenes as well instead of just standing there.

~Yami~ · 2013-04-26, 08:26

I don't really get the plot...

ep 1 : Dorsian attacked JIOR.. JIOR surrendered and Dorsian invaded the colony

ep 2 : -don't know wtf is happening- I only know that Haruto and co kicked and made some riot inside Dorsian's army which invaded the colony... But I don't really see them leaving

ep 3 : suddenly ARUS came like nothing happened (how they get through the Dorsian's army blockade in outer space and in colony?)

from Gundam SEED plot, Valvrave just chose Guilty Crown Route....
let's just bet one of the girl (Shoko or Saki) will get Hare's treatment...
I do hope nothing will go wrong in upcoming episode though... They have such a good plot... please don't make a lame character (at least make it stronger and developed like Kira Yamato did)

kiak666 · 2013-04-26, 08:37

Episode 3 gives out some background about the 3 nations, however the highlight is all on L-Elf. The guys from ARUS sure aren't joking when they refer him as the One-Man-Army.

And Hacker Girl is the younger sister of the Student Council President? The two doesn't seem to get along though...

~~DuelGundam2099~~ · 2013-04-26, 08:42

I'm starting to wonder if I should watch Guilty Crown so I can get the comparisons you guys make to it.

Obelisk ze Tormentor · 2013-04-26, 08:54

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Originally Posted by DuelGundam2099

I'm starting to wonder if I should watch Guilty Crown so I can get the comparisons you guys make to it.

Well, I don’t know about that. I kinda regret watching that trainwreck of a story. I’m still trying to forget about it and allocate that portion of my memory for something more meaningful. Thank god it's working, as I don't remember a large part of GC's story anymore and that makes me happy

. Still, if you have certain taste in anime, you might enjoy GC and probably even love it. The visual is top-notch for its time, that one I admit.

~Yami~ · 2013-04-26, 08:55

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Originally Posted by DuelGundam2099

I'm starting to wonder if I should watch Guilty Crown so I can get the comparisons you guys make to it.

don't watch it...

you'll regret it

Tiberium Wolf · 2013-04-26, 09:06

It was interesting at start but getting less interesting. Opposite road of Ginga Kikotai Majestic Prince which is getting more interesting after a dull start.

As pointing in posts above. So many things that don't make sense at all.

~~DuelGundam2099~~ · 2013-04-26, 09:15

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don't watch it...
you'll regret it

It can't be worse than a girly, magic girl, or CLAMP junk series and I seriously doubt it could be as bad as Straight Title Robot Anime.

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Still, if you have certain taste in anime, you might enjoy GC and probably even love it

People have mistaken me for being retarded, a troll, crazy, and a hipster for no reason other than "I disagree with you and I have a mouth with talking capabilities!" so perhaps I'll end up liking it.

bastek66 · 2013-04-26, 09:41

Whoa, Lel-F turns out to be Lelouch + Bond - Powers but "mainish" character is lame Suzaku without skills.
Episode seems really halfassed especially with big animation error.
Preorders also slowed down to around 250th place. Which is bad for it.

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Originally Posted by DuelGundam2099

It can't be worse than a girly, magic girl, or CLAMP junk series and I seriously doubt it could be as bad as Straight Title Robot Anime.

Don't watch it. It was entertaining sometimes, but ending is just gut wrenching. Shu suffered too much.

articuzwolf · 2013-04-26, 09:43

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Originally Posted by ~Yami~

ep 2 : -don't know wtf is happening- I only know that Haruto and co kicked and made some riot inside Dorsian's army which invaded the colony... But I don't really see them leaving

they clearly retreated leaving L-Elf "the traitor" behind, not sure how did you miss that

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Originally Posted by ~Yami~

ep 3 : suddenly ARUS came like nothing happened (how they get through the Dorsian's army blockade in outer space and in colony?)

ARUS came since episode 2, helping (popping up and scared Dorssia Army) Haruto during his fight against Ideal and chase Dorssian army away

did you skip episode 2 and go directly to episode 3

FiveOVER · 2013-04-26, 10:09

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Originally Posted by ~Yami~

I don't really get the plot...

ep 1 : Dorsian attacked JIOR.. JIOR surrendered and Dorsian invaded the colony

ep 2 : -don't know wtf is happening- I only know that Haruto and co kicked and made some riot inside Dorsian's army which invaded the colony... But I don't really see them leaving

ep 3 : suddenly ARUS came like nothing happened (how they get through the Dorsian's army blockade in outer space and in colony?

ep1 : Dorssians infiltrated a JIOR colony to steal the valvrave. At the same time they launched an invasion to take over JIOR. Like killing two birds with one stone. L-11 and friens failed in their mission causing Valvrave to be deployed in front of Haruto and friends who were In the midst of running to shelter. shoko seemingly got killed by a beam attack when she tried to safe a person in a stranded car. Haruto wanted to get revenge and boarded the valvrave. After agreeing the T&C he received an injection that changes him. He then goes on to thrash the enemy units. He defeated a squadron but not the whole of dorrsians.

ep2 : After getting stabbed and revived and biting L- 11, Haruto transferred into L-11's body. Probably a change brought about from the injection. After rescuing his friends from the Dorssians, and at the same time giving the impression that L-11 defected, he reunited wih his friends and hatched a plan. Without resistance from the captured valvrave and JIOR's surrender, Dorssians easily took over the colony. No where is it stated they surrounded the JIOR colony. They don't have the resources or man power for it after the invasion. They probably attacked a number of colonies and the capital resulting in the surrender. At the same time, ARUS came to rescue JIOR. Haruto hijacked the valvrave, transferred back to his body and accidentally entered space. A dorssian ship that staged the invasion sportted it and attacked in an effort to retrieve the valvrave. After a long fight, L-11 realized his body was manipulated and has nowhere to go now. Arus fleet came to liberate the colony (not all of JIOR). Haruto realized he did all that for nothing when shoko was alived all along. Since he no longer know himself, he decided not to confess.

ep3 : L-11got captured and interrogated. Haruto got used as a tool to evacuate the citizens. L-11 escaped while dealing lots of damage to ARUS. He met with Haruto and offered to make a contract.

I think there is nothing confusing about the plot, so if you have any doubts feel free to ask me.

Oh, and here are some of the Q&As if you're interested: http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...54#post4649254

Key Board · 2013-04-26, 10:15

so did LLF always plan this rebellion, or was this something he improvised?

if you think about it, we know that he is a super soldier, but at the same time you can there's enough of him showing to suggest that he is not simply satisfied with just following orders

there's a a strong personal motivation in there somewhere

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FiveOVER · 2013-04-26, 10:18

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Originally Posted by Key Board

so did LLF always plan this rebellion, or was this something he improvised?

Probably planned from the moment he was captured on the chair but not before. He did tell Haruto of the outcomes of his plans.

FiveOVER · 2013-04-26, 10:28

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Originally Posted by Key Board

so did LLF always plan this rebellion, or was this something he improvised?

if you think about it, we know that he is a super soldier, but at the same time you can there's enough of him showing to suggest that he is not simply satisfied with just following orders

there's a a strong personal motivation in there somewhere

..

I agree, the fact that he is willing to work with Haruto to change Dorssia tells us that he is no simple soldier that blindly follow orders. He is a very interesting character and I can't wait for the show to reveal more about his backgrounds.

Triple_R · 2013-04-26, 10:28

I just watched Episode 3.

Positives:

1. The show continues to be entertaining.

2. Haruto's degree of angsting was much less than I had feared. Actually, I liked him in this episode. I really like how he's handling the new "Hero of Millions" role he's been thrust into. It's not making him smug, but he's not running away from it either. In fact, he makes me think of Spiderman - "With great power comes great responsibility." I think that Haruto gets this new-found popularity, nature, and mecha abilities represents "great power", and he's not shirking that.

3. Shoko and Saki came across well. Shoko was quite understandably sad, but not bitterly angry. Good note to hit with here.

4. I liked the smooth pragmatism of the ARUS Senator.

5. This episode gave me a better feel for the full cast than previous episodes did.

Cons:

1. ARUS military incompetence. A couple of scenes were almost painful to watch.

I'm still undecided on L-Elf. I hope that he's revealed to be genetically engineered, or have drank something on par with Captain America's Super Soldier Serum. Right now, L-Elf almost feels universe-breaking to me.

On the whole, this show feels like a bold blend of Code Geass with Gundam. Dorssia, JIOR, and ARUS are definitely very similar to certain nation setups in Gundam. But Gundam had a somewhat more realistic feel to me than what Code Geass did - A Char Aznable-caliber soldier works great in a Gundam-esque show, but L-Elf is well beyond Char in his crazy capabilities. So far the Code Geass/Gundam blend is working pretty well, but I think the show will need to find someone that can truly challenge L-Elf if that is to continue.

An excellent Episode 3.

FiveOVER · 2013-04-26, 10:36

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Originally Posted by Triple_R

I just watched Episode 3.

Positives:

1. The show continues to be entertaining.

2. Haruto's degree of angsting was much less than I had feared. Actually, I liked him in this episode. I really like how he's handling the new "Hero of Millions" role he's been thrust into. It's not making him smug, but he's not running away from it either. In fact, he makes me think of Spierman - "With great power comes great responsibility." I think that Haruto gets this new-found popularity, nature, and mecha abilities represents "great power", and he's not shirking that.

3. Shoko and Saki came across well. Shoko was quite understandably sad, but not bitterly angry. Good note to hit with here.

4. I liked the smooth pragmatism of the ARUS Senator.

5. This episode gave me a better feel for the full cast than previous episodes did.

Cons:

1. ARUS military incompetence. A couple of scenes were almost painful to watch.

I'm still undecided on L-Elf. I hope that he's revealed to be genetically engineered, or have drank something on par with Captain America's Super Soldier Serum. Right now, L-Elf almost feels universe-breaking to me.

On the whole, this show feels like a bold blend of Code Geass with Gundam. Dorssia, JIOR, and ARUS are definitely very similar to certain nation setups in Gundam. But Gundam had a somewhat more realistic feel to me than what Code Geass did - A Char Aznable-caliber soldier works great in a Gundam-esque show, but L-Elf is well beyond Char in his crazy capabilities. So far the Code Geass/Gundam blend is working pretty well, but I think the show will need to find someone that can truly challenge L-Elf if that is to continue.

An excellent Episode 3.

Yeah, ARUS's soldiers are rather ineffecient and sloppy. That goes to show the difference between a nation built from trade and a nation built from military alliances.

I think L-11 is a monster in his own right. Hopefully the show will explain his superhuman capabilities.

Duo Maxwell · 2013-04-26, 10:53

So far I enjoys the mindless fun this show offers, but it doesn't look like it's doing too well in Japan, which I'm worrying that it could affect what we will have at 2nd cour. Hopefully it's not the case of Gundam 00 all over again.

ookamigirl · 2013-04-26, 10:57

So Haruto is a hero now.
It was naive of him to think that they're safe now.
His body was obviously changed by the mecha experience.
Haruto became crazy popular.
That may sound great, but it's a double edged blade.
L-Elf is a truly scary and extremely capable guy.

~Yami~ · 2013-04-26, 11:15

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Originally Posted by articuzwolf

they clearly retreated leaving L-Elf "the traitor" behind, not sure how did you miss that

ARUS came since episode 2, helping (popping up and scared Dorssia Army) Haruto during his fight against Ideal and chase Dorssian army away

did you skip episode 2 and go directly to episode 3

lol, thanks articus! I totally missed that... I'm focusing more on character and missing the political and war development

it's been a while since I encountered an anime like this

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Tiberium Wolf Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Age: 44	It was interesting at start but getting less interesting. Opposite road of Ginga Kikotai Majestic Prince which is getting more interesting after a dull start. As pointing in posts above. So many things that don't make sense at all. __________________ Last edited by Tiberium Wolf; 2013-04-26 at 09:32.

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Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	so did LLF always plan this rebellion, or was this something he improvised? if you think about it, we know that he is a super soldier, but at the same time you can there's enough of him showing to suggest that he is not simply satisfied with just following orders there's a a strong personal motivation in there somewhere .. __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

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Triple_R Senior Member Author Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Age: 42	I just watched Episode 3. Positives: 1. The show continues to be entertaining. 2. Haruto's degree of angsting was much less than I had feared. Actually, I liked him in this episode. I really like how he's handling the new "Hero of Millions" role he's been thrust into. It's not making him smug, but he's not running away from it either. In fact, he makes me think of Spiderman - "With great power comes great responsibility." I think that Haruto gets this new-found popularity, nature, and mecha abilities represents "great power", and he's not shirking that. 3. Shoko and Saki came across well. Shoko was quite understandably sad, but not bitterly angry. Good note to hit with here. 4. I liked the smooth pragmatism of the ARUS Senator. 5. This episode gave me a better feel for the full cast than previous episodes did. Cons: 1. ARUS military incompetence. A couple of scenes were almost painful to watch. I'm still undecided on L-Elf. I hope that he's revealed to be genetically engineered, or have drank something on par with Captain America's Super Soldier Serum. Right now, L-Elf almost feels universe-breaking to me. On the whole, this show feels like a bold blend of Code Geass with Gundam. Dorssia, JIOR, and ARUS are definitely very similar to certain nation setups in Gundam. But Gundam had a somewhat more realistic feel to me than what Code Geass did - A Char Aznable-caliber soldier works great in a Gundam-esque show, but L-Elf is well beyond Char in his crazy capabilities. So far the Code Geass/Gundam blend is working pretty well, but I think the show will need to find someone that can truly challenge L-Elf if that is to continue. An excellent Episode 3. __________________ Last edited by Triple_R; 2013-04-26 at 22:11.

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Duo Maxwell A Proud Lolicon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In front of my computer Age: 37	So far I enjoys the mindless fun this show offers, but it doesn't look like it's doing too well in Japan, which I'm worrying that it could affect what we will have at 2nd cour. Hopefully it's not the case of Gundam 00 all over again. __________________

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ookamigirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	So Haruto is a hero now. It was naive of him to think that they're safe now. His body was obviously changed by the mecha experience. Haruto became crazy popular. That may sound great, but it's a double edged blade. L-Elf is a truly scary and extremely capable guy. __________________ My Blog --> ookami

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~~DuelGundam2099~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: Feb 2013	I just watched the new episode and.... Hmm, nothing interesting aside from L-Elfs roflstomping over the military.

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kivredia Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Age: 36	Aside from all the train wreck and being all over the place it gets more entertaining every week. Now, am I the only one who even thinks that Shouko might have turned him down from the very beginning? There is no clear sign that she actually feels the same way, maybe she was/is considering it but feeling a little embarrassed about a confession isn't that surprising. She could have just confessed to him in those scenes as well instead of just standing there.

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~Yami~ a random Indonesian otaku Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Xanadu Age: 32	I don't really get the plot... ep 1 : Dorsian attacked JIOR.. JIOR surrendered and Dorsian invaded the colony ep 2 : -don't know wtf is happening- I only know that Haruto and co kicked and made some riot inside Dorsian's army which invaded the colony... But I don't really see them leaving ep 3 : suddenly ARUS came like nothing happened (how they get through the Dorsian's army blockade in outer space and in colony?) from Gundam SEED plot, Valvrave just chose Guilty Crown Route.... let's just bet one of the girl (Shoko or Saki) will get Hare's treatment... I do hope nothing will go wrong in upcoming episode though... They have such a good plot... please don't make a lame character (at least make it stronger and developed like Kira Yamato did)

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kiak666 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Malaysia	Episode 3 gives out some background about the 3 nations, however the highlight is all on L-Elf. The guys from ARUS sure aren't joking when they refer him as the One-Man-Army. And Hacker Girl is the younger sister of the Student Council President? The two doesn't seem to get along though...

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~~DuelGundam2099~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: Feb 2013	I'm starting to wonder if I should watch Guilty Crown so I can get the comparisons you guys make to it.