Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha Character Creation and Discussion

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by FieryAeon

Btw the thread seems to have slowed down a bit nowadays. Nice change of pace.

*A wooden sign on Chaos' dooor*


"GONE FISHING... FOR IDEAS."


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@TK


How much do you know about Anti-terrorism agencies? Do they include stuff like weapon trafficking bust? Or those that fall under a separate department?

Cause since we have a resident military geek, I figure I might as well take advantage of him...

[Erio]

Yo! Just dropping a message for now. I was busy in the last couple of days studying for an exam. I'm done with that, though.

Aaron, I read most of Grandis' updated profile earlier today, and also some of the discussions about his rare skill. Nothing much to say anymore, as the discussions have been covering most of the points... All in all, great character again. And again, another hugely versatile character! You sure love creating them like that, huh?

And I havent forgotten about the few reads I'm owing some of you. I will surely try to take care of them tomorrow.


EDIT:

@USB SWEET Widuri image there.

@Aaron & Tk Do letme know how that discussion about Barrier Jacket ends. I am with Tk on this one.

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

Though I do wonder if that would suit her appearance in general... Photoshoppers?

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*jumps in*

Spoiler for *Drops Package*:

*runs*

[Tk3997]

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

I see your point. But man... That guy's...

Insane?

Yeah pretty much not too many guys would survive being mauled by a grizzly bear then decide to spend years trying to make a suit of armor so they could go back for round two.

Though I guess we agree that there is magic there, right. Though the likely solution there is Sharazad just using her own magic (thought different in nature) to get past.

Well magic is certainly used to form the jacket and it might perhaps be used to reinforce it's structure but I'm not convinced that there is any kind of active anti-impact magic shielding going on.

And thus, we are shown one exploitable weakness of having a fanservicy outfit in Magical Girl shows.

That was why I liked Fate's new jacket better, I like my combat troops to look like well... troops not street walkers.

I'm starting to find it quite entertainingly silly that the elite mages get less protection from that kind of technique compared to grunts just because they show more skin. Maybe Hayate should consider using Zettai Ryouiki on her legs (like Nanoha and Fate) when fighting with Templars. Since Nanoha was shown to imagine her outfit for herself during the first season. Though I do wonder if that would suit her appearance in general... Photoshoppers?

I don't get why they imagined stuff so skimpy to begin with... If someone said “you need to think up some armor” my outfit probably ends up looking like this.

Spoiler for Size:

Mjolnir armor = awesome it would instantly spring to mind guaranteed.

Originally Posted by LoweGear

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*jumps in*

Spoiler for *Drops Package*:

*runs*

The second one doesn’t suit her at all IMO, but the first one acutally isn’t terrible IMO if you brought the pants up all the way I think it would look good.

[tshouryuu]

Originally Posted by Tormenk

WHAT? Hell no fucking way! Who would support ODEX??

How did you connect Faye Valentine from Cowboy Bebop to ODEX anyway?

IIRC Odex sells to Mediacorp. Cowboy Bebop is under their name. It was airing last night. Faye and Singapore were being shown in that episode. Connect the dots...

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

And thus, we are shown one exploitable weakness of having a fanservicy outfit in Magical Girl shows. I'm starting to find it quite entertainingly silly that the elite mages get less protection from that kind of technique compared to grunts just because they show more skin. Maybe Hayate should consider using Zettai Ryouiki on her legs (like Nanoha and Fate) when fighting with Templars. Since Nanoha was shown to imagine her outfit for herself during the first season. Though I do wonder if that would suit her appearance in general... Photoshoppers?

I can only offer this as an explanation on why their BJ are like that.

Spoiler for NSFW:

[Erio]

Originally Posted by tshouryuu

I can only offer this as an explanation on why their BJ are like that.

Spoiler for NSFW:

APPROVED.

lol

[Tk3997]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

@TK
How much do you know about Anti-terrorism agencies? Do they include stuff like weapon trafficking bust? Or those that fall under a separate department?

Cause since we have a resident military geek, I figure I might as well take advantage of him...

Would depend on the situation but if it’s just going to arrest some guy for weapons violation or a few low level gun runners they’re would be little reason for counter terrorist teams to be involved, if the target is known to be able to use the weapons and keep them near him a SWAT team would likely serve the warrant though. If it was slightly higher level gun runner like a wholesaler it probably crosses state (planet) lines and so federal agents are likely to be involved or lead the operation, again it would be a mostly investigative task though and handled by that department, though again a tactical team (likely an enforcer contingent) is probably used for the actual take down.

Of course it’s also a question of what kind of CT group are you talking about both FBI Special Agents and Delta Force Commandos are counter terrorist specialists, but in totally different ways. Even accountants can be CT operatives so just saying “CT” dosen’t really make it easy to answer the question what kind of CT are you thinking of investigations, counter intelligence, tactical/rescue teams?

Still I'll hazard to guess your thinking classic "Elite black clad stormtroopers that bash in doors and shot people" like the SAS or something in which case you'd need to get into a truly huge criminal empire heavily involved in supporting major terrorist groups to justify using them. Although it has happened Russian uses Special Forces to combat the mafia and Delta force was apparently heavily involved in training and assisting in what amounted to the state sanctioned murder of Pablo Escobar and the destruction of his cartel, although in both cases these are and where criminal's that were bordering on domestic terrorists, though that line can get blurry indeed at times. These kinds of teams are also sometimes used to counter large scale domestic or international terror groups, but in this case they tend to provide muscle while another section will ID targets for them.

Still if it seems like something a SWAT team analog ought to be able to handle then they'd have little reason to get involved. Again this is all highly situation dependent though and it's hard to say exactly what should happen without a bit of detail, and in any event CT operations are in general a multi-disipline and agency affair that would possibly to invole a number of groups depending on the specfics of the case.

[Aaron008R]

Originally Posted by Erio

Yo! Just dropping a message for now. I was busy in the last couple of days studying for an exam. I'm done with that, though.

Aaron, I read most of Grandis' updated profile earlier today, and also some of the discussions about his rare skill. Nothing much to say anymore, as the discussions have been covering most of the points... All in all, great character again. And again, another hugely versatile character! You sure love creating them like that, huh?

It sure ended up that way after Keroko-kun and Liingo knocked some sense of proper utility oin my head.

But that's the idea. He still sucks at ranged-combat though.

And I havent forgotten about the few reads I'm owing some of you. I will surely try to take care of them tomorrow.

Take your time.

@Aaron & Tk Do letme know how that discussion about Barrier Jacket ends. I am with Tk on this one.

It's currently still undecided.

Originally Posted by LoweGear

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*jumps in*

Spoiler for *Drops Package*:

*runs*

The first, I can imagine...
The second, does not suit her...

How about applying it to her Knight Armor? Recoloring most of her legs shouldn't be too hard, right? Sorry for being a bother. >_<

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Insane?

Yeah pretty much not too many guys would survive being mauled by a grizzly bear then decide to spend years trying to make a suit of armor so they could go back for round two.

Well magic is certainly used to form the jacket and it might perhaps be used to reinforce it's structure but I'm not convinced that there is any kind of active anti-impact magic shielding going on.

I guess that is indeed subject to some debate. I'll wait for Keroko-kun's opinion. ANd man, if only Kha was here.

That was why I liked Fate's new jacket better, I like my combat troops to look like well... troops not street walkers.

I don't get why they imagined stuff so skimpy to begin with...

It would seem like it was the character-designers that imagined the suits for them.

If someone said “you need to think up some armor” my outfit probably ends up looking like this.

Spoiler for Size:

Mjolnir armor = awesome it would instantly spring to mind guaranteed.

Awesome indeed!

Originally Posted by tshouryuu

I can only offer this as an explanation on why their BJ are like that.

Spoiler for NSFW:

[USB500]

Damn, this thread is dying. This isn't a good week for everyone.

Anyway, I'll just post the links to Tears of the Northern Wind, in case people missed my OC profile post at the first page.

Chapters 1 & 2
Chapter 3
Chapter 4, reposted
Chapter 5

*goes to continue Tears of the Northern Wind & Super Robot Wars LW*

Updates? Not sure, but it will just be another slow chapter(s) before the final action begins.

Oh, an 3vil teaser is fine, too.

Spoiler:

"Hikki!!!!"

He wavered, toppled and then halted. The katana had pierced through his chest, and was plunged as far as the blade's length as the humanoid Lost Logia held him suspended in midair.

"This power belongs to me now."

Halcyon twisted the katana. The heart ruptured, and Hikki screamed an agonizing cry that later died in his throat. She pulled the katana, left the Gale Whistler to drop onto the field and absorbed the Chronograph circuit into her Core Linker.

"It's been 350 years..."

She turned to the appalled Aces, both swords now began to be engulfed in dark gales. There was no sense of remorse coming from her eyes as she left the unmoving body to approach the quartet.

She halted. "I shall present to you the true power of Chronograph."

She lifted the katana.

"Kami Reppuken."

Spoiler for reposting image:

BTW, I won't be around this weekend. Need to get a good rest after this stressful week. . I see if I can come up with new stuffs next week. D:

[Wild Goose]

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Insane?

Yeah pretty much not too many guys would survive being mauled by a grizzly bear then decide to spend years trying to make a suit of armor so they could go back for round two.

As Teal'C would say, "Indeed." Then he'd kill the bear. Then again, he'd kill the bear on his first encounter with it...

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Well magic is certainly used to form the jacket and it might perhaps be used to reinforce it's structure but I'm not convinced that there is any kind of active anti-impact magic shielding going on.

It appears to protect more against magic damage, rather than impact; until the Wolkenritter showed up, not many people seemed to be interested in getting up close and personal with their foes...

Originally Posted by Tk3997

That was why I liked Fate's new jacket better, I like my combat troops to look like well... troops not street walkers.

I don't get why they imagined stuff so skimpy to begin with... If someone said “you need to think up some armor” my outfit probably ends up looking like this.

Spoiler for Size:

Mjolnir armor = awesome it would instantly spring to mind guaranteed.

I really really liked it; it's like a set of modifiend TSAB Navy Class As or a police uniform... though with the revealing coat and thigh stockings.

As for the Mjolnir armor... NOBODY in the OFM can match the Master Chief in terms of pure badass (well, for now, who knows what's gonna happen 30 years down the road), so I have them using ODST armor instead, which IS what the SPARTAN-IIs used until they got their Mjolnir armor. "Until we got our Mjolnir armor, we pretty much looked like any NAVSPECWARGRU." - Will to Admiral Whitcomb, Halo: First Strike.

...I really wanted to put John-117 in, but then again, giving him magic would make him too h4x. I mean, he's pretty haxxed in the books, IMO. (Though not so in the games.) On the other hand, Rule of Cool applies.

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by Liingo

I've made my views clear to Kha already in person I might add. Now the thread knows as well. *shrug* No big deal.

Aaaah

Originally Posted by FlameSparkZ

Oh, well...I'll just split this last part in two

Spoiler for Knight's Ordeal - Part 6:

"Guaah!" Koji was thrown back by his other half's attack.
"Peh..." He spit on the floor, "What's with you? You're not attacking at all..."
Koji got up, (I...Do I really have such a side in me? I don't remember acting like this...)
Dark Koji sighed, "You're hesitating again...do you need an incentive?"
"Eh?" Koji looked at him.

"I see I got your attention. Then it's like this, if you don't hurry up and seriously fight me, I'll kill you." He paused.
"Then, when I get out of here, I'll be the one in control and the first thing I'll do, is make that fox girl mine."
Koji's eyes narrowed as he heard that, "DON'T YOU DARE!" He shouted creating a burst of wind.
"Heh..." He grinned. "Don't worry, I'll take good care of her, I'm sure she'll be a good se-" But before he could finish, Koji interrupted him.
"KISAMA!!!!" Koji charged at him.

Their swords clashed, and the two stared at eachother, with identical expressions on their faces, but for different reasons.
"That's it, fight me! Show me your will to live." He smirked.
"As you wish!!" Koji replied.

They began a fierce exchange of blows as they fought in that arena.
The only magic was the one applied to their weapons, they battled without special attacks whatsoever.
But neither had the advantage, because they are the same person, with the same power, speed and skill, just different personalities.
The two stopped and stared at each other.

"...I see this is going nowhere."
"Yeah..."
"Then, it's best to finish this up by showing what we can do." He grinned.
Koji got ready as he felt his counterpart charge up for an attack.

But...
"W-What?" Koji said surprised.
A crimson aura enveloped his other half along with an red-blood belkan triangle.
(His magic isn't the same color as mine?!)
Dark Koji grinned widely, "...Kokushi..." He looked a Koji. [Death Announcement]
"!?"
"Youkou Zanken!!!" [Crimson Killer Blade!!!] And with a savage swipe, he unleashed a crimson wave at Koji.
"!!" Koji ran his hand along Schritt's blade, raised a barrier and put himself on defensive position. "Kuh!" He winced as took the hit.

The sheer power of the attack pushed him back, almost to the limits of the arena. Koji firmly planted his feet as the blade kept pressuring him back.
"Heh..." Dark Koji smirked, showing a ring sigil around his left wrist.
"?"
Then, as he made a fist, "Break!" and the crimson blade exploded, throwing Koji off the arena and crashing agaisnt the wall.
As the smoke dissipated, Koji was still on the wall, recovering from the blast.
"K-kuh..." Koji groaned, he felt his sword's hilt sliding off his hand, but quickly grasped it tighter.

"Well, looks like you survived...though I can't say the same about your sword..." He smirked.
Koji looked down at Schritt and saw that more than half of the blade was missing and only a few fragments of the amethyst remained.
(Schritt...) He looked at the broken sword.
Looking at his counterpart, Koji pulled himself off the wall, jumped back to the arena and held Schritt with both hands.

"You're going to fight with half a sword?" He laughed.
"Got a problem with that?"
"Not really, just wondering if you lost your mind when you hit the wall."
"Who knows...maybe that hit did something good for me..." Koji smirked.
"Eh? Confident, huh? Think you can win?"
"Heh...The more I think about it, the better it sounds." Koji kept his smirk of confidence, and remembered...

[Flashback]
In the dojo, Signum was gving Koji a special training...
As he sat meditating, Signum walked behind him, watching him.

Then, noticing lack of concentration Signum hits Koji on the shoulder with a shinai (bamboo sword).
"Ite!" He winced.
"You're not focused enough."
"I'm sorry...but it's hard to do clear my mind of all thoughts."
"It is necessary for a knight to learn how control himself."
"I see..."

"Remember Minawa, if you let your emotions take over when fighting a formidable opponent, then you will surely lose."
"Yes."
"Once you learn to control them, you will be able to feel the flow of battle and instinctively react without thinking."
"Yes." Koji nodded.
"You may face an opponent that has the ability to read your emotional state or even your thoughts, using this method you can overcome that advantage."
"Yes."
"Your opponent will be confused and take the iniciative to attack you, but you will remain calm an wait for the right moment to strike."
"Like the wind?"
Signum smiled, "Yes...like the calm wind, that peacefully flows through, but unleashes its fury when disturbed."
"Then, I'll do my best!" Koji said with determination.
[/Flashback]

(That's right...Don't think at all, just feel the flow of battle...just like shishou taught me.) Koji said to himself.
(Schritt...I'm sorry.) He apologized to the inanimate weapon. (And thank you for protecting me, I owe you one...)
"HAAAAAA!" Koji shouted as the belkan triangle appeared under him, along with gusts of wind.
"Infusing the sword with mana, huh?" He commented.
"Notus, bringer of storms..." As he chanted the winds surrounded him. "Enchant my sword with your fierce gales!"
"Notus Blade!!" and Schritt was enveloped by the winds surrounding Koji, solidifying into an emerald-colored blade.

"Heh, a variation of Air Blade...not bad." He put himself in combat position.
"Shall we continue?" Koji asked.
Dark Koji smirked, "Very...well!" And threw a wave of crimson energy at Koji.
Koji promptly jumped before impact and delivered an downwards slash, blocked by his counterpart.
The two stared at eachother for a split-second and Koji broke the contact between their weapons, jumping backwards.

"Tch!" Dark Koji sneered and charged at him, Koji parried the blow and countered, pushing him back.
(What's with him?) Dark Koji asked himself and continued attacking, in vain.
And then he noticed, (His emotions...I can't feel them!) He pulled back and looked at him again...Koji bore an expression similar to Signum when in battle.
"what the heck are you doing?!" He shouted.
Koji looked at his half with determined eyes, "I'm being like the wind..." He replied.

Dark Koji then he remembered, "T-That state Signum spoke of...you managed to master it now?"
"..." Koji didn't reply.
"That's unthinkable! How can someone like you be able to use such a thing?" He kept shouting.
"...Is that jealousy?" Koji blinked, still with that serious face, "I'm sorry, but I'd like to finish this..."
"What?!" He said angrily. "Go ahead and try!" Dark Koji prepared for his special move, but this time, with full power.

Koji gently inhaled, "...Kuuga." [Clear-self]
"Kokushi!" Dark Koji shouted.
Schritt's blade flashed, scattering emerald shards, releaving a shiny new blade, and an emerald jewel where the amethyst was.
"Too slow!!!" He shouted, "Youkou Zanken!!!" and unleashed it.
"Fuujin Issen!!!" [Wind God Flash!!!] Koji released his attack with all his might.

The moment their attacks colided, Dark Koji's attack was effortlessly dissolved, and...
"GUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!" Dark Koji screamed as he was hit by the overwhelming blast of light and wind.
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And this song would fit the last part of their battle quite nicely

EDIT:

Spoiler for The attacks:

Ok...so here's how they go...

Spoiler for Dark Koji:

Kanji: 告死! 洋紅斬剣!!!
Romanji: Kokushi! Youkou Zanken!!!
English: Death Announcement! Crimson Killer Blade!!!

Comments: "Kokushi" is a reference to the Gamebot Advance (and now also for PSP) RPG, Riviera: The Promissed Land
Ein/Ecthel and Ledah are in the english version called Grim Angels, but in the original version are "Kokushi Tenshi", which literally means "Death Announcement Angels"
When executing their ultimate attacks, before calling out the attack they say "Kokushi!", to announce their opponent's death

The rest of the attack's name is based on Darkness Knight's attack in a translated piece of the game.
His attack's full name is Demon Sign: Dark Murdering Blade (魔刻冥斬剣)
I just twinked it a bit

Spoiler for Koji:

Kanji: 空我!風神一閃!!!
Romanji: Kuuga! Fuujin Issen!!!
English: Clear-self! Wind God Flash!!!

Comments: Kuuga is the name of the third Demon Sword in Summon Night: Swordcraft Story 2
And it's wind-type, though, you can't use it

I'll post the rest soon
*runs off*

And lesson to Dark Koji: Never mess with Koji by bringing up Maren, or you're guaranteed instant ownage

Originally Posted by Tormenk

Off-topic but...

Faye Valetine is Singaporean?

If the scenes from her childhood video are to be believed, yes she might be

Originally Posted by Melodius Trueheart

I'll have to change the backstory anyway - make him less of an asshole, and more of someone who suffers from "you're not my REAL mommy" syndrome - basically, he's initally trained by Hayate, but later, he gets trained by Nanoha, and he doesn't like this, and that's why he leaves.

I tried to make him sort of a "comedic" character, but I sort of went over the top I guess.

Unfortunately though, he came across more as an a-hole than comedic

Originally Posted by Jimmy C

The majority of examples are anime or other Japanese media. You have to wonder why they like it so much. Sometimes I think it's because their country is a living example that of it. Something came to my mind when reviewing those examples:
If you want to defeat your opponent, you strike at their weakness. Victory at least cost to yourself.
If you want to break your opponent, you take their strength head on and crush it. Show them that the power that they took pride in is inadequate.

*notes*

Originally Posted by Liingo

Spoiler for Jean:

Spoiler for Sylvia:

NAISU images

Originally Posted by USB500

I don't know, but I stumbled across this interesting picture while browsing through Sister Iichan's site.

Spoiler for pre-Widuri Halcyon:

However, this template isn't finalized. So how Halcyon would look in her pre-Lyrical of Time incarnation will change if necessary.

though I kind of like this "killer lady version" of Widuri <_<

And I think I'm going to use this as Widuri's "alter ego" persona if the thread agrees. >_>

*runs from Hikki*

[Mariel] Eeeeeeeeeeeeeh?! [/Mariel]

Now that's... bloody deadly (but at the same time)

And Dark Widuri similar to Dark Spica? Much more... daring?

*runs*

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Least they don't have time machines...

Originally Posted by Tk3997

I’ve shown clips of it before it just clicked that it was earths own warships?

Acutally they have four ships of the Daedalus Class Daedalus, Odyssey, Apollo, and Korolev (that one was basiclly a bribe for Russia, it got pwnzored of course), they had Prometheus, but it got owned too. So acutally they’ve had five of them and two of them have been blown up.

They're cool little boats, a little weakly armed but very versatile. The Deadie in particular got a sweet entrance in season two of Atlantis when it first appeared and nailed three Hiveships in the first ep before they came up with a counter out of no where.

Spoiler for Daedalus Intro:

It still managed to keep chugging though and basiclly killed like 5 more over the next season or so though. Plus finding time to evacuate a doomed planet, stop a solar flares, and blow up a stargate near a black hole among other things. Also all of this is obviously happening in another galaxy which it flies to and from on a regular basis as a sort of shuttle bus service.

And finally now in season four it's got a sister ship in the Apollo I'm really hoping for some tag team ass kicking action with them. Odyssey also got turbo charged by the Asgard in the last SG-1 ep, but I kinda doubt they'll be boosting up the Atlantis ships with that tech anytime soon as it would make it kind of a curbstomp, but maybe they'll get some energy guns at least though.

Yeah

How SG went from simple gate-jumping to suddenly having starships of their own is Although it is a most WICKED development Having so many though still boggles my mind

And how many times have they used the nuke teleport trick anyhow?

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Superman is DC acutally... Which has it's share of wank too superman has actually been toned DOWN with time as he was SO powerful not even the writers could think of a way to threaten him.

Woops

Superman has always been H4XX, if the only way you could beat him was through Kryptonite

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Was thinking I'd just blast him.

Spoiler for Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom, etc...:

I prefer this:

Spoiler for Light em' up!:

Originally Posted by Tk3997

"Don't refute my opinions unless your prepared to face a brick wall!"

And that's a real quote from someone on another forum I went too.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

You could always try learning magic instead.

I need to hunt me some Lost Logia first

Originally Posted by Tk3997

And who said cloning was bad?!

Not me

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Take a look at some of these impacts for instance:

Spoiler for Bear Suit:

Now admittedly this is rather more bulky then your average barrier jacket, but I think we can say that a few hundred years of research could slim it down a bit.

Aaaah that guy, with the last suit looking like Terminator Armor.

Strangely enough, his suits are actually made out of the most unusual stuff you could think of in making armor... such as a healthy supply of spiderwebs (I ain't kidding here ).

Originally Posted by USB500

Where's everyone?

TEARS OF THE NORTHERN WIND
CHAPTER 5

Spoiler for part 1:

He stayed silent.

The very sight of Patricia beginning the morning with ‘Ave Maria’ was as beautiful as the woman herself. He remained unmoving, captivated by the tranquillity of her voice, which echoed through the isolated monastery, awed by the charm of the woman’s calm facial expression. He could not help wondering why a gorgeous woman would lead a life isolated from social contact.

The hymn stopped. Turning to see him standing at the door, Patricia gave him a smile. “Good morning, Hikki. How’s your sleep?”

“The chill kept stealing my sweet dream,” he jokingly replied and sat on the bench. “I swear we really need a heater.”

Patricia chuckled. “I appreciate the thought. Thank you.”

He turned to her. “You look beautiful when you sing the song,” he said. “I must admit. You should have become a recording artist instead.”

Patricia blushed. “I’m not used to interacting with people, let alone singing for them,” she replied. “But thank you. I am flattered.”

“Well, shall we get going?”

“Where to, Hikki?”

He had gotten up from the bench when he smiled to her. “To the market, of course.”

Spoiler for part 2:

He was impressed by the bustling atmosphere of the indoor market. Everywhere he went, he could see variety of people bargaining goods and exchanging products, talking to each other in native tongues up to the point they looked like they were arguing rather than discussing. “For one thing, I didn’t know place this isolated and covered in snow all year around can attract so many people.”

“There’s a railway station near this town,” Patricia spoke and returned the wave of the hawkers they came across. “People gather here every day to trade goods with cities along the railway. Here’s also their social gathering, where they can share news on the world around them.”

“And they seem to like your presence already,” he said when he noticed the people looking at Patricia in interest. He glanced at the nun and found her nervously hiding her face from getting seen. “Let me guess. These people are scaring you, right?”

“Excuse me? They will not easily frighten me,” Patricia suddenly replied in defiance. “I’m a nun. Of course I must not be afraid of them.”

He batted a blasé eyebrow. “Oh? Then how come your hands are shaking?”

“It’s because the ground is trembling,” Patricia made excuses. “The train frequently passes this town and makes everything shake in its presence.”

“I don’t think you can easily fool me,” he wryly spoke. “Because your mouth is trying to say ‘no’ when your hands obviously say ‘yes’.”

“I do not understand what you are trying to tell me,” the woman insisted and squealed when a cat suddenly fell onto her shoulders from above. Frantically she tried brushing the cat off her, and jumped into his arms in the process. “I can’t stand cats! They always stain themselves with dirty foods! They carry infectious germs inside their claws! Please chase them away!” she moaned.

Surprised at her out-of-character reaction, he let Patricia cling onto him and glanced to the creature that had spooked the nun. “Why, it’s only a kitten,” he laughed. “It just wants to say ‘good morning’ to you.” The kitten meowed and returned the stare. “See?”

“Kitten?” Patricia cried in panic and tightened her arms around his neck. “I’m scared of kittens! I can’t stand their bright eyes! It’s like they want to eat me whole! Hikki, please save me!”

He could only laugh at himself, because by now the whole market was cheering for the paradoxically romantic scene between their cherished nun and a man strange to their land. He also realized some of the elders were congratulating him for ‘winning the heart of the self-acclaimed Patricia Popovsky’ and ‘making the town proud’.

“I think you should get off my arms right now,” he told her.

“But I want the kitten to leave first!” Patricia protested.

He sighed. “We can worry of the kitten first, because we’re in big trouble now.”

Patricia gasped when she realized what she had done and hurriedly jumped off his arms. “I’m very sorry!” she apologized. “I have burdened you with my shameless manners. Please forgive me.” The people started cheering for her, and she trembled in embarrassment at the reaction she was having. “Look what you have done!” she scolded him. “The entire town is cheering for me, and you don’t even do anything to help me. Are you trying to set me up, Hikki?”

“Well, at least you were at fault for suddenly leaping into my arms,” he replied with a sly grin. “You’re heavy, on top of that.” The answer caused Patricia deeply and angrily pout at him, making him panic at the mistake he had done. “I didn’t mean to say that.”

“Hikki, stop calling me heavy or I’ll--” Patricia cried out in distress when the kitten meowed and again jumped into his arms. “Stop meowing at me! I’m not your mother!” The fluffs of black fur ignored the plea and continued meowing, occasionally leaping off the ground to grab Patricia’s gown. The woman shrieked and tightly clung onto him. “Get away from me! Get away! Hikki! Do something!”

He could only shake his head. “Oh, great.”

Spoiler for part 3:

// later that afternoon, town’s park //

“Seriously, this is the best day I’ve ever had in my life,” he laughed and looked at the groceries he got for free from the hawkers. “I never thought the townspeople would be generous enough to give us all of these for free.”

“I’m so sorry,” Patricia apologized and frowned in disappointment. “I shouldn’t disgrace you in front of the people with my behaviour. I should have told you that I am very afraid of cats.”

“Nah, everybody has their weakness,” he replied.

Patricia deeply blushed. “And I shouldn’t jump into your arms like a frightened little girl, too…” she mumbled. “Were you upset at me?”

“Upset? Why would I be upset at you? Besides, you looked cute when you made the distressed face.” He noticed Patricia grumbling in protest at the answer, and he could only laugh. “Come on. You’re really cute. Didn’t the people tell you of that?”

“I’m too old to be considered cute,” Patricia replied and stooped her head. “You… you’re the first person ever to call me cute.” He, instead, laughed and leaned onto the wooden bench, gazing into the snowy sky. “Stop laughing at me. You’ll… only make me embarrassed.” He kept on laughing, and it would not take long before Patricia laughed together with him.

His laughs faded. “Strange, isn’t it?” he spoke in a suddenly serious voice intonation. “I came here a stranger, barely escaping death and taken care of by a woman I never expected to meet. And here I am, laughing with the very woman who had saved my life like never before.”

Patricia stared at him. “Is there… something wrong?”

He closed his eyes. “I wish I knew,” he spoke and took a deep breath. “Say, Patricia.”

“Yes?”

“If there’s anything you can do to become what you really are, would you do so…” he began. “…even though you’d risk ending your life in the process?”

“Hikki, why are you suddenly asking me the question?”

“How should I know?” He frowned. “Even though I never learn of my past, I have been living behind this mask I had created to hide my true self. This… façade… it’s been hiding my face for too long even I don’t know when it will come off.”

Patricia moved closer, swiping snow that had been piling between them. “Have you tried getting rid of it?” she asked.

“I have, but it hurts so much,” he answered. “It’s like… it’s like the mask doesn’t want to leave me.”

“Then you should learn to accept it as a part of you,” Patricia spoke.

He shook his head. “I can’t. I really wish I could do what you said, but I can’t.” He twitched; the pain came again, and it was kicking and pounding his chest, making him throb in discomfort. “Damn it! Why this pain has to come at this time?”

Patricia put a hand on his chest. The pain immediately receded, and he calmed down. “Then you will need someone to share your past,” she spoke. “It may be painful, but if you need to know who you really are, then it is the only way.”

He gazed into the woman’s warm eyes. “But who can I rely on?”

Patricia smiled. “You can always talk to me.”

He blinked. “Patricia, you can’t be serious… can you?”

The woman giggled. “I may not be a good listener, but I know how to help people overcoming their problems.” So saying she took his palm and firmly held it between her hands. “I’m always free if you know where to look for me.”

He clenched the hands. They were warm, and he wanted them to keep holding his humble palm for a little bit longer. He brought them close to his face and kissed them. “Thanks, Patricia,” he murmured and rested them on his face.

“Well, then,” Patricia spoke and stood up, letting go off his hand. “We should be getting home by now. I don’t want the children to wait for us.”

He stood as well and took the groceries before she did. “I’ll carry these,” he offered. “It’s the least thing I can do to help.”

Patricia smiled. “Thank you, Hikki.”

Spoiler for part 4:

// night //

The occupants of the monastery had finished their dinner. Everybody was full, satisfied and thankful for the blessed meals. Now that they were done, Patricia was gesturing the children to was their dishes and help her cleaning the dining hall.

He stayed at where he had been seated. He, too, was satisfied, but still feeling rather empty. It was not the case of the cold night that made his belly growl in hunger again, but it was Patricia’s sincerity to be his listening partner. He asked himself of how lucky he was, a stranger who had left everything behind, to have a woman with the unheard-of generosity to help him. He glanced at the nun and chuckled; she was squealing in protest when some of the children teased her for hiding an affair from them.

“Big Brother?”

He turned left and noticed a girl looking up at him, a Goth Lolita doll securely held between her lithe arms. “Uhh… yes?”

“Are you feeling alright?”

He could only nod. “Big Brother is fine now,” he told the girl.

“I was the one who helped Big Sister wrapping the bandages on your body,” the girl replied.

“Really?” He patted the girl’s head. “Thanks. You’ve been helpful.”

The girl kept staring at him, even as he was messing the brunette hair with his ruffles. “Big Sister always teaches us to help other people without asking them of their origin,” she continued.

“That’s very good to hear,” he replied.

“Big Brother, can I ask you something?” the girl asked.

“Yes, you can.”

“Do you like Big Sister?”

He blushed. So did Patricia, who then proceeded to scold the girl for asking the ridiculous question. “Why would you think of that?” he asked.

“Because you teased Big Sister during the dinner,” the pig-tailed girl insisted. “In my family, if a man has a woman he likes, he will tease her a lot.”

He had to laugh. “Did I ever do that?” He later glanced at Patricia who, in turn, turned away from him in awkwardness. “Oh, great.”

The boys cooed. “Big Sister and Big Brother really are into something!” they cheered and exchanged high-fives with the girls. Patricia started chasing them around the dining hall, but was outrun by the more agile little urchins.

The doll-carrying girl was waiting for his answer, and became restless as he did not say anything. “You really are too shy to tell me the answer, aren’t you?” she asked and offered him her little finger. “Don’t worry. I will not tell anyone.”

“Promise?”

The girl nodded. “Promise.”

He chuckled and hooked his little finger with hers. “Deal.”

The little girl left him and went to ask Patricia the same question. He merely watched, as the nun was hiding her face in embarrassment at the shameless question, while the boys and the girls teased her for her reluctance to share them her thought on ‘the stranger’.

He chuckled. “Tease her a lot… huh?”

I get this feeling that some of us want to kill Hikki already after reading this chapter.

*runs*

Hikki even has Patricia, a nun, under his spell?

Hikki's a Captain Kirk!

Though Patricia's quite cute when she's getting scared by cats

Originally Posted by Tk3997

I don't get why they imagined stuff so skimpy to begin with... If someone said “you need to think up some armor” my outfit probably ends up looking like this.

Spoiler for Size:

Mjolnir armor = awesome it would instantly spring to mind guaranteed.

AGREED

Originally Posted by Tk3997

The second one doesn’t suit her at all IMO, but the first one acutally isn’t terrible IMO if you brought the pants up all the way I think it would look good.

I know I just shopped it for Aaron to see how it'd look

Originally Posted by tshouryuu

IIRC Odex sells to Mediacorp. Cowboy Bebop is under their name. It was airing last night. Faye and Singapore were being shown in that episode. Connect the dots...

Kinda shaky logic there is it?

Originally Posted by tshouryuu

I can only offer this as an explanation on why their BJ are like that.

Spoiler for NSFW:

XD

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

The first, I can imagine...
The second, does not suit her...

How about applying it to her Knight Armor? Recoloring most of her legs shouldn't be too hard, right? Sorry for being a bother. >_<

I don't think I'm that good yet

Originally Posted by USB500

Updates? Not sure, but it will just be another slow chapter(s) before the final action begins.

Oh, an 3vil teaser is fine, too.

Spoiler:

"Hikki!!!!"

He wavered, toppled and then halted. The katana had pierced through his chest, as the humanoid Lost Logia held him suspended in midair.

"This power belongs to me now."

Halcyon twisted the katana. The heart ruptured, and Hikki screamed an agonizing cry that later died in his throat. She pulled the katana, left the Gale Whistler to drop onto the field and absorbed the Chronograph circuit into her Core Linker. She turned to the appalled Aces, both swords now began to be engulfed in dark gales. There was no sense of remorse coming from her eyes as she left the unmoving body to approach the quartet.

She halted. "I shall present to you the true power of Chronograph."

She lifted the katana.

"Kami Reppuken."

Now THAT is a brutally stark contrast to the sweet Widuri we know who makes out with Hikki today

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by PhoenixFlare

I'll concede at this point with manipulating water, but Sharazad remains an accomplished hydromancer. Seems like we're going in a roundabout all along.

I don't know how this happens, but the fact that long-range casters like Sharazad and the Saint of the Scepter have an entire arsenal of elementals at their disposal (fire, water, earth, air, light) should make them pretty versatile. Perhaps I've been making them too specialized in their particular element that I forgot about combination. >.>

In any case, Sharazad and the Saint could drop multiple elemental spells at once, owing to their weather control. They are like Druids controlling the forces of nature. However, the extent that I would like to know is whether they are allowed to do so, since dual-, tri-, and quad-elemental attacks have always been frowned here.

HAXX-Gods, your view?

As long as you regulate their powers, and don't mystically give every one of them affinities, its fine with me.

Originally Posted by FlameSparkZ

Oh, well...I'll just split this last part in two

Spoiler for Knight's Ordeal - Part 6:

-snip-

And this song would fit the last part of their battle quite nicely

EDIT:

Spoiler for The attacks:

Ok...so here's how they go...

Spoiler for Dark Koji:

Kanji: 告死! 洋紅斬剣!!!
Romanji: Kokushi! Youkou Zanken!!!
English: Death Announcement! Crimson Killer Blade!!!

Comments: "Kokushi" is a reference to the Gamebot Advance (and now also for PSP) RPG, Riviera: The Promissed Land
Ein/Ecthel and Ledah are in the english version called Grim Angels, but in the original version are "Kokushi Tenshi", which literally means "Death Announcement Angels"
When executing their ultimate attacks, before calling out the attack they say "Kokushi!", to announce their opponent's death

The rest of the attack's name is based on Darkness Knight's attack in a translated piece of the game.
His attack's full name is Demon Sign: Dark Murdering Blade (魔刻冥斬剣)
I just twinked it a bit

Spoiler for Koji:

Kanji: 空我!風神一閃!!!
Romanji: Kuuga! Fuujin Issen!!!
English: Clear-self! Wind God Flash!!!

Comments: Kuuga is the name of the third Demon Sword in Summon Night: Swordcraft Story 2
And it's wind-type, though, you can't use it

I'll post the rest soon
*runs off*

And thats that for dark Koji. Nice battle, though the 'erase your emotions' thing made me go but thats just a personal gripe of mine.

Originally Posted by Melodius Trueheart

Therein lies a big problem with Nanoha as a whole - compared to the other personnel in their universe, the Aces and Knights are damn-nigh gods, and that leaves you with three choices:

1: A really short story.
2: Really hax antagonists.
3: PIS, stupid limiting plot devices, etc.

I suppose you can also make it so that Nanoha and co are not THAT much more powerful than everyone else

It should be said that Lindy is S-ranked as well. Really, despite that the Aces were put in the spotlight, its not as if S-ranked mages are artifacts. Rare, yes, but definetely not exceedingly so. Zest was S-ranked, too, remember?

Originally Posted by Melodius Trueheart

I'll have to change the backstory anyway - make him less of an asshole, and more of someone who suffers from "you're not my REAL mommy" syndrome - basically, he's initally trained by Hayate, but later, he gets trained by Nanoha, and he doesn't like this, and that's why he leaves.

I tried to make him sort of a "comedic" character, but I sort of went over the top I guess.

I'll wait and see this before I start hammering.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

For a melee fighter the touching part is a minor issue at best and not that bad even for ranged fighter against the likes of Hayate getting close is probably her only chance, Hayate's jacket also exposed allot of skin along her legs and when flying getting at those isn't that hard.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Her arms are totally covered by her armor and she has gloves, the legs and neck are the only really exposed area and the former would be much easier to get at since her entire lower leg above the ankle and most of the thigh is exposed.

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

Truth. Hayate can't handle high-speed dogfighting as well as Nanoha or Fate.
But that depends on wether or not that even if her legs are naked, she still has some field protection. I'm finding it a little dodgy to think to think that just because her legs are not covered with the 'fabric' of the Knight Armor doesn't mean that they're not protected. Barrier Jackets/Knight Armors have always been attributed to full-body defense. And there's a confirmed magical field covering the entire body during StrikerS 16. If Sharazad would be to grab Hayate's neck, hands or legs, I think she still has to go thru the magical defense on Hayate's skin.

Ugh... I remember this argument somewhere. Keroko-kun! You were the pioneer of this argument in the Tech thread, right?! A little help here!

Barrier Jackets again? Good thing internet is fixed then.

First of, do Barrier Jackets give protection even to unclothed areas? Yes. Take a look at this manga page:

Spoiler for IS: Silver Retriever:

Barrier Jackets create both a field and a barrier, now why would you limit the area of protection to what is clothed if you can make it cover the entire body? Seems like the most logical choice is to make it cover the entire body. Does this stop people from grabbing you? Of course not. It does, however, protect one from incomming attacks. Not completely (its an automated defence, after all, it not nearly as powerfull as one made with actual effort) but it does suit to soften blows, and logically eliminate the damage of lower-tier attacks.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

This is supported repeatedly IMO by the fact mages never seem to just bounce off each other when they make contact nor do we see any sort of shield interaction expect when shielding spells are specifically used. Indeed whenever someone strikes another person they always seem to make contact, not collide with some invisible field a few centimeters over the skin or something. Not that Jackets seem to provide much protection from impacts anyway pretty much everyone time we see a serious physical hit on one it seems to do major damage or ignore the jacket completely the jacket really do seem to be mostly geared at reducing the impact of spells rather then physical hits.

Why should they need to bounce of eachother? this isn't the SG:A personal shield, you know. If you want support, the cast gets thrown through buildings without suffering as much as a scratch. Even though they're wearing skimpy clothing, they come out of it just fine and carry on as if nothing happened. Why? Because the Barrier Jackets shielded them from the blow.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Even that’s not really requiring much in the way of impact reduction magic normal Kevlar reduces impact damage by spreading the impact out, assuming a jacket is something like Kevlar and covers most of the body it would spread the impact fairly well and allow you to get smacked around pretty bad without injury, especially with blunt trauma like hitting walls or falling. For instance the bulletproof vests of police officers have been sighted as a major factor in survival of motorcycle and car crashes by protecting their trunks from impact damage.

Take a look at some of these impacts for instance:

Spoiler for Bear Suit:

Now admittedly this is rather more bulky then your average barrier jacket, but I think we can say that a few hundred years of research could slim it down a bit.

Then why is it so hard to believe that a society which is farther in us not only in technollogy, but also utilizes magic can make outfits that protect the entire body, rather then only what is clothed.

[Wild Goose]

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Which is the point rarity in and of itself dosen't mean it's awesome you can easily have or get something rare that SUCKS, or is just so-so. I was merely defending the notion that a rare skill could useful, but need not be like "HOLY SHIT HAX!!!" level useful.

Unlimited Paper Works, anyone? *grins* It's only useful for doing paperwork; other than that it's completely useless. XD

Originally Posted by Tk3997

I’ve shown clips of it before it just clicked that it was earths own warships?

Acutally they have four ships of the Daedalus Class Daedalus, Odyssey, Apollo, and Korolev (that one was basiclly a bribe for Russia, it got pwnzored of course), they had Prometheus, but it got owned too. So acutally they’ve had five of them and two of them have been blown up.

Compared to other sci-fi - though perhaps Stargate is more Mil-SF proper - the USAF took SIX YEARS to build their first space warship... and then kept it under USAF command. Subversion of at least 2 tropes, I think... Looking at the Daedalus in action, it seems the way Caldwell is treating it is as a hugeass space fighter, rather than a naval ship...

Originally Posted by Tk3997

They're cool little boats, a little weakly armed but very versatile. The Deadie in particular got a sweet entrance in season two of Atlantis when it first appeared and nailed three Hiveships in the first ep before they came up with a counter out of no where.

Spoiler for Daedalus Intro:

It still managed to keep chugging though and basiclly killed like 5 more over the next season or so though. Plus finding time to evacuate a doomed planet, stop a solar flares, and blow up a stargate near a black hole among other things. Also all of this is obviously happening in another galaxy which it flies to and from on a regular basis as a sort of shuttle bus service.

And finally now in season four it's got a sister ship in the Apollo I'm really hoping for some tag team ass kicking action with them. Odyssey also got turbo charged by the Asgard in the last SG-1 ep, but I kinda doubt they'll be boosting up the Atlantis ships with that tech anytime soon as it would make it kind of a curbstomp, but maybe they'll get some energy guns at least though.

Part of me desperately wants these ships for the OFM. The more rational part keeps reminding me that the OFM uses a TSAB light warship, either a frigate or destroyer, not a battlecruiser. And the final section of my soul thinks that these ships were probably what the erusians tried to use against the TSAB 20 years ago.

But I still want one. If only for Horizon.... even if it only has Horizon, I will take it! Nevermind that Horizon and black ops don't mix!

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Was thinking I'd just blast him.

Spoiler for Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom, etc...:

God, they're actually making these?! Life imitating art! I was going to have the OFM use shotguns loaded with HE shells against Gadget Drones, to explosive effect.

Originally Posted by Melodius Trueheart

I'll have to change the backstory anyway - make him less of an asshole, and more of someone who suffers from "you're not my REAL mommy" syndrome - basically, he's initally trained by Hayate, but later, he gets trained by Nanoha, and he doesn't like this, and that's why he leaves.

I tried to make him sort of a "comedic" character, but I sort of went over the top I guess.

If you want a comedic charecter, you're going the wrong way about it. The way your charecter is running, he's begging for O'Neill - yes, THAT O'Neill - to order him brought in "Dead or alive, preferbally dead." He's an S-ranked loose cannon, insubordinate, insulting, and deliberately deserting from the TSAB. You can't play the AWOL card on a 3-year absence: sooner or later, the Order will be deployed to bring him in. And unlike Nanoha and friends, and despite being a Gentleman Gunslinger, Erick von Long plays hardball when he needs to.

Also, an interesting note: the Order's SNCO is one Sergeant Major Ivanovich - russian for "Son of John." "We will rip their spines from their skulls and toss 'em over our backs, laughin'!" "Son the Good Lord works in mysterious ways, but not today! This here is 66 tons of straight up, HE-spewing divine intervention. If God is love, you can call me Cupid!" "When I was in the Corps, we had only two sticks and a rock to a platoon, and we had to share the rock! Buck up boy, you are one very lucky Marine!"

Which means that you're going ot have to try and figure out how 1 S-ranked mage is going to take out 21 mages ranging from S (Erick) to B (Bravo 24 "Soap"). Not to mention the fact that the top 4 mages (in terms of authority), Erick, Glen, Emili and Franz, are friends of the Nanoha-gundan, and Franz in particular will be very angry at how insulting he was to Nanoha. Franz may call her Beamspam-chan, Franz may make fun of her occasionally, but they've been friends for five years, and it's all in fun. This though? He won't take this too personally, but he'll definately enjoy bringing him in.

And mind you, even if you're S-ranked, you can't do anything if heavy AMF is deployed in your location, you're being tasered away, and if you so much as try to use magic, at least 4 14.5mm sniper rifles are pointed at you, along with a lot of rifles and shotguns loaded with HE shells and buckshot.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Insane?

Yeah pretty much not too many guys would survive being mauled by a grizzly bear then decide to spend years trying to make a suit of armor so they could go back for round two.

As Teal'C would say, "Indeed." Then he'd kill the bear. Then again, he'd kill the bear on his first encounter with it...

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Well magic is certainly used to form the jacket and it might perhaps be used to reinforce it's structure but I'm not convinced that there is any kind of active anti-impact magic shielding going on.

It appears to protect more against magic damage, rather than impact; until the Wolkenritter showed up, not many people seemed to be interested in getting up close and personal with their foes...

Originally Posted by Tk3997

That was why I liked Fate's new jacket better, I like my combat troops to look like well... troops not street walkers.

I don't get why they imagined stuff so skimpy to begin with... If someone said “you need to think up some armor” my outfit probably ends up looking like this.

Spoiler for Size:

Mjolnir armor = awesome it would instantly spring to mind guaranteed.

I really really liked it; it's like a set of modifiend TSAB Navy Class As or a police uniform... though with the revealing coat and thigh stockings.

As for the Mjolnir armor... NOBODY in the OFM can match the Master Chief in terms of pure badass (well, for now, who knows what's gonna happen 30 years down the road), so I have them using ODST armor instead, which IS what the SPARTAN-IIs used until they got their Mjolnir armor. "Until we got our Mjolnir armor, we pretty much looked like any NAVSPECWARGRU." - Will to Admiral Whitcomb, Halo: First Strike.

...I really wanted to put John-117 in, but then again, giving him magic would make him too h4x. I mean, he's pretty haxxed in the books, IMO. (Though not so in the games.) On the other hand, Rule of Cool applies.

[USB500]

Last post before going for a two-day hibernation

Originally Posted by LoweGear

[Mariel] Eeeeeeeeeeeeeh?! [/Mariel]

Now that's... bloody deadly (but at the same time)

And Dark Widuri similar to Dark Spica? Much more... daring?

*runs*

The best combination I can think of for our Dark Widuri.

Daring? I don't know about it yet. But we'll see.

Hmm... Dark Widuri/Dark Spica hawt daring action.....

*runs from Jeno & Hikki*

Originally Posted by LoweGear

Hikki even has Patricia, a nun, under his spell?

Hikki's a Captain Kirk!

Though Patricia's quite cute when she's getting scared by cats

Told you. Not that he didn't intentionally let her jump into his arms.

She's always cute whenever she's getting scared by cats. Ah... scaring megane nun with innocent kitty with bright eyes......

Now if only we can see Frieda freaked out by roaches....

*mental images*

HOLY--

*is smitten & runs for cover*

Originally Posted by LoweGear

Now THAT is a brutally stark contrast to the sweet Widuri we know who makes out with Hikki today

Brutal, dark, murderous and vicious.

Oh, can I spoil here that she has a dangerous yuri tendency?

Well, you can say anything that can reflect her dark side before she becomes Widuri we know who always makes out with her precious Goshujin-sama.

[PhoenixFlare]

Originally Posted by FlameSparkZ

Oh, well...I'll just split this last part in two

Spoiler for Knight's Ordeal - Part 6:

"Guaah!" Koji was thrown back by his other half's attack.
"Peh..." He spit on the floor, "What's with you? You're not attacking at all..."
Koji got up, (I...Do I really have such a side in me? I don't remember acting like this...)
Dark Koji sighed, "You're hesitating again...do you need an incentive?"
"Eh?" Koji looked at him.

"I see I got your attention. Then it's like this, if you don't hurry up and seriously fight me, I'll kill you." He paused.
"Then, when I get out of here, I'll be the one in control and the first thing I'll do, is make that fox girl mine."
Koji's eyes narrowed as he heard that, "DON'T YOU DARE!" He shouted creating a burst of wind.
"Heh..." He grinned. "Don't worry, I'll take good care of her, I'm sure she'll be a good se-" But before he could finish, Koji interrupted him.
"KISAMA!!!!" Koji charged at him.

Their swords clashed, and the two stared at eachother, with identical expressions on their faces, but for different reasons.
"That's it, fight me! Show me your will to live." He smirked.
"As you wish!!" Koji replied.

They began a fierce exchange of blows as they fought in that arena.
The only magic was the one applied to their weapons, they battled without special attacks whatsoever.
But neither had the advantage, because they are the same person, with the same power, speed and skill, just different personalities.
The two stopped and stared at each other.

"...I see this is going nowhere."
"Yeah..."
"Then, it's best to finish this up by showing what we can do." He grinned.
Koji got ready as he felt his counterpart charge up for an attack.

But...
"W-What?" Koji said surprised.
A crimson aura enveloped his other half along with an red-blood belkan triangle.
(His magic isn't the same color as mine?!)
Dark Koji grinned widely, "...Kokushi..." He looked a Koji. [Death Announcement]
"!?"
"Youkou Zanken!!!" [Crimson Killer Blade!!!] And with a savage swipe, he unleashed a crimson wave at Koji.
"!!" Koji ran his hand along Schritt's blade, raised a barrier and put himself on defensive position. "Kuh!" He winced as took the hit.

The sheer power of the attack pushed him back, almost to the limits of the arena. Koji firmly planted his feet as the blade kept pressuring him back.
"Heh..." Dark Koji smirked, showing a ring sigil around his left wrist.
"?"
Then, as he made a fist, "Break!" and the crimson blade exploded, throwing Koji off the arena and crashing agaisnt the wall.
As the smoke dissipated, Koji was still on the wall, recovering from the blast.
"K-kuh..." Koji groaned, he felt his sword's hilt sliding off his hand, but quickly grasped it tighter.

"Well, looks like you survived...though I can't say the same about your sword..." He smirked.
Koji looked down at Schritt and saw that more than half of the blade was missing and only a few fragments of the amethyst remained.
(Schritt...) He looked at the broken sword.
Looking at his counterpart, Koji pulled himself off the wall, jumped back to the arena and held Schritt with both hands.

"You're going to fight with half a sword?" He laughed.
"Got a problem with that?"
"Not really, just wondering if you lost your mind when you hit the wall."
"Who knows...maybe that hit did something good for me..." Koji smirked.
"Eh? Confident, huh? Think you can win?"
"Heh...The more I think about it, the better it sounds." Koji kept his smirk of confidence, and remembered...

[Flashback]
In the dojo, Signum was gving Koji a special training...
As he sat meditating, Signum walked behind him, watching him.

Then, noticing lack of concentration Signum hits Koji on the shoulder with a shinai (bamboo sword).
"Ite!" He winced.
"You're not focused enough."
"I'm sorry...but it's hard to do clear my mind of all thoughts."
"It is necessary for a knight to learn how control himself."
"I see..."

"Remember Minawa, if you let your emotions take over when fighting a formidable opponent, then you will surely lose."
"Yes."
"Once you learn to control them, you will be able to feel the flow of battle and instinctively react without thinking."
"Yes." Koji nodded.
"You may face an opponent that has the ability to read your emotional state or even your thoughts, using this method you can overcome that advantage."
"Yes."
"Your opponent will be confused and take the iniciative to attack you, but you will remain calm an wait for the right moment to strike."
"Like the wind?"
Signum smiled, "Yes...like the calm wind, that peacefully flows through, but unleashes its fury when disturbed."
"Then, I'll do my best!" Koji said with determination.
[/Flashback]

(That's right...Don't think at all, just feel the flow of battle...just like shishou taught me.) Koji said to himself.
(Schritt...I'm sorry.) He apologized to the inanimate weapon. (And thank you for protecting me, I owe you one...)
"HAAAAAA!" Koji shouted as the belkan triangle appeared under him, along with gusts of wind.
"Infusing the sword with mana, huh?" He commented.
"Notus, bringer of storms..." As he chanted the winds surrounded him. "Enchant my sword with your fierce gales!"
"Notus Blade!!" and Schritt was enveloped by the winds surrounding Koji, solidifying into an emerald-colored blade.

"Heh, a variation of Air Blade...not bad." He put himself in combat position.
"Shall we continue?" Koji asked.
Dark Koji smirked, "Very...well!" And threw a wave of crimson energy at Koji.
Koji promptly jumped before impact and delivered an downwards slash, blocked by his counterpart.
The two stared at eachother for a split-second and Koji broke the contact between their weapons, jumping backwards.

"Tch!" Dark Koji sneered and charged at him, Koji parried the blow and countered, pushing him back.
(What's with him?) Dark Koji asked himself and continued attacking, in vain.
And then he noticed, (His emotions...I can't feel them!) He pulled back and looked at him again...Koji bore an expression similar to Signum when in battle.
"what the heck are you doing?!" He shouted.
Koji looked at his half with determined eyes, "I'm being like the wind..." He replied.

Dark Koji then he remembered, "T-That state Signum spoke of...you managed to master it now?"
"..." Koji didn't reply.
"That's unthinkable! How can someone like you be able to use such a thing?" He kept shouting.
"...Is that jealousy?" Koji blinked, still with that serious face, "I'm sorry, but I'd like to finish this..."
"What?!" He said angrily. "Go ahead and try!" Dark Koji prepared for his special move, but this time, with full power.

Koji gently inhaled, "...Kuuga." [Clear-self]
"Kokushi!" Dark Koji shouted.
Schritt's blade flashed, scattering emerald shards, releaving a shiny new blade, and an emerald jewel where the amethyst was.
"Too slow!!!" He shouted, "Youkou Zanken!!!" and unleashed it.
"Fuujin Issen!!!" [Wind God Flash!!!] Koji released his attack with all his might.

The moment their attacks colided, Dark Koji's attack was effortlessly dissolved, and...
"GUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!" Dark Koji screamed as he was hit by the overwhelming blast of light and wind.
----------------------------

And this song would fit the last part of their battle quite nicely

EDIT:

Spoiler for The attacks:

Ok...so here's how they go...

Spoiler for Dark Koji:

Kanji: 告死! 洋紅斬剣!!!
Romanji: Kokushi! Youkou Zanken!!!
English: Death Announcement! Crimson Killer Blade!!!

Comments: "Kokushi" is a reference to the Gamebot Advance (and now also for PSP) RPG, Riviera: The Promissed Land
Ein/Ecthel and Ledah are in the english version called Grim Angels, but in the original version are "Kokushi Tenshi", which literally means "Death Announcement Angels"
When executing their ultimate attacks, before calling out the attack they say "Kokushi!", to announce their opponent's death

The rest of the attack's name is based on Darkness Knight's attack in a translated piece of the game.
His attack's full name is Demon Sign: Dark Murdering Blade (魔刻冥斬剣)
I just twinked it a bit

Spoiler for Koji:

Kanji: 空我!風神一閃!!!
Romanji: Kuuga! Fuujin Issen!!!
English: Clear-self! Wind God Flash!!!

Comments: Kuuga is the name of the third Demon Sword in Summon Night: Swordcraft Story 2
And it's wind-type, though, you can't use it

I'll post the rest soon
*runs off*

Ah, Riviera: the Promised Land, one of the best action-RPG for Gameboy Advance by Sting. This is a nice chapter indeed, with Koji defeating his dark self, mastering a wind-blade attack from Signum's tutelage, not unlike Shiro from Saber.

Notus, hmm, from Ogre Battle?

By the way, have you played Yggdra Union? That's also a nice tactical game from the same producer of Riviera.

Originally Posted by Tormenk

Tiny attempts at being the omnipotent force that governs all. And of course the idea of control.

Originally Posted by Tormenk

Wicked? Do share if you don't mind spoiling.

Something along the line of Hayate being surrounded by Scions and Heralds, and they send her some nice pretty beams for present ... with Sharazad launching an elemental nuke from afar ...

Originally Posted by Tormenk

Never can have enough of ideas. Too little on the other had..

True, true.

Originally Posted by Tormenk

The last time she got hurt, Hayate went on a rampage.

Uh, this time, she did not really get hurt, more of like a bleeding heart. And I don't mean being sympathetic of the enemy's cause.

Originally Posted by Tormenk

Disintegrate into dust or ripped into shreds. Ah.

The shuddering attack known as Diabolic Emission.

Originally Posted by Tormenk

Well you know they say the greatest battles are won without a single shot being fired.

Originally Posted by Tormenk

So the Templars are going down soon?

Not going to spoil.

Originally Posted by Tormenk

Not in favor. Time to see how much damage magic can wreck.

I'm having a particular urge to make all the battles redirect into wastelands or deserts ...

Originally Posted by Liingo

Oh so we're God now huh?
I for one don't mind the proposal

It would very much depend on what is it that you're trying to do. And of course the inevitable payment that your OC's will pay for invoking such massive power. Controlling the forces of nature as you put it is going to have porfound effects on the location where this occurs.

The dual-, tri-, and quad-elemental attacks are most likely chained together by the single elemental attack. For example, if Sharazad redirects a rapid stream with her spell, it's going to spill over and uproot trees and bring together some other big debris like boulders and stuff. Those "extras" make up the secondary elements (sort of) within the water attack. In any case, yeah, the landscape would most likely change ... a lot.

Originally Posted by Liingo

Well no, but when you're trying to portray Hayate as someone who won't use the force necessary to as quickly as possible so as to limit the numbers of casualties on her side, it is going to raise a few questions.

I'm fine with you trying to resolve the whole mess diplomatically, but the Templars don't seem likely to back down and the TSAB isn' exaclty going to be happy with them after the massive job they did on Subaru.

The case with Subaru was actually accidental, with Vestrell going mad on not getting the genuine Topaz Star. Still, I know it's a weak defense, so I'm not going to try to debate on it.

Both sides will still go into some grudging understanding, but they won't back down, that's for sure.

Originally Posted by Liingo

We'll see once you unveil your thoughts on the upgrades.

The Templars will most likely be given a secondary source of Elements, something similar to cartridges, except that these crystals (Astral Quartz) store huge quantities of solar power, thermal heat, and some other volatile Elements. Energy can be accessed directly by drawing Elements from these crystals instead of draining it from the environment.

Originally Posted by Liingo

That's what we wanted (well what I wanted )

I'm personally don't like the whole concept. Although I do acknowledges that the premise of it is useful at times...

True, and I was banking on that premise somehow towards the end. Maybe just a slight change ...

Originally Posted by Liingo

@Phoenix
*blush* Thanks for the reply
I couldn't resist putting it in... actually I'm surprised no one else mentioned it before.. The attack is heavily limited in power/duration however, as things could get out of hand.

TCD: Tactical combat display. For a reference pic, see Meia and her eye ornament thingy.. (Yes, I'm a fanboy )
EP: Extraction Point.

And don't worry, I already made clear to FA that any mention of Pug and his colleagues (tomas/ miranda/ black robes/etc.) will be bad for his health

Ah, I see, but if I remember correctly, it's written as EZ, not EP. Maybe I misread it.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Sorry I missed this post in the confusion somehow.

Nothing to worry about, it happens all the time for all of us.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

I still say "hydromacners" are pretty useless in battle in a setting like Nanoha.

Maybe. Perhaps I should allow Sharazad some limited "beam" control.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Since they use a different system I'd care less about it, also I myself don't care if something breaks canon a little as long as it isn't haxx so I wouldn't scream about multi-element affinity in even mid mages as long as it was kept in check. *shrugs* in any case as I've said the effect and power level is what matters most so I can't comment much until I get an idea what you have in mind on this front.

I've mentioned a little bit of it in a reply to Liingo, and the creatures (Minions, Executioners, Cardinals, Heralds, and Scions) have all been buffed up to some next evolutionary stage. There is still the hidden antagonists to take care of.

Other small upgrades include buffed up protective spells so that they can withstand wide-area attacks to a certain limited extent. Nothing bordering on being safe in the face of a full-powered Diabolic Emission, but the damage is reduced by a significant fraction so that they don't just diffuse out of existence in the black sphere.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

As long as you stopped when the people became very woozy and looked ready to collapse the risk shouldn't be extreme, particularity if afterwards you feed them a bit of pure oxygen to counter the effect your body produces and exhaust CO2 naturally after all so given time it will flush the "toxin" fairly throughly it's only when it's exposed in huge constant amounts it can kill.

Noted.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Her arms are totally covered by her armor and she has gloves, the legs and neck are the only really exposed area and the former would be much easier to get at since her entire lower leg above the ankle and most of the thigh is exposed.

Vestrell could probably do it, but Grandia and Trystahn are more reserved towards handling a woman's ... legs.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

I'd feel the same way, but she didn't seem to care much when she tried to DE the borgs back in StrikerS so either your vastly underestimating her penchant for applied violence or she was reasonably sure it wouldn't kill them, either way this makes your take on this incident look rather OOC.

The beauty of "magic damage".

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Perhaps, but most battles won't be like that and not being willing to use the force that's apporate to the threat is not acceptable. I also think you REALLY downplaying how pissed most of these people would be after you nearly killed one of their close personal friends.

They might be understanding people, but their capacity for mercy and understanding is going to be vastly reduced when dealing with a bunch of people that attempted to murder one of their friends. It might he hard to piss them off, but that would surely do it IMO. Nanoha in particular I think would be out for Templar blood and in full on Devil Mode too many people I feel think she's like Jesus or something, she's not she can get pissed and I think this would surely do it .

I’d infinitely prefer a competent tough villain to making the heroes act like morons to let weaker ones stand a chance, we saw how that went with StrikerS… They spent the entire series pissing around and then when it acutally got to the end and they went full out they stomped everything in like 10 minutes it’s like "WTF why didn’t you just do this before idiots!?"

While Vestrell's attack was certainly powerful, Mach Caliber's protection and Kratos's timely intervention managed to pull Subaru out from edge of death. True, Nanoha isn't a saint, but with Subaru out of any life-threatening situation, their intention to be "out for blood" was toned down to "seeking justification".

I wouldn't say that it's a better part of the story because it isn't, but as much as she would be vengeful, she's still rational. Isn't that part of military training to keep a cool head even in the most awkward emotional situation?

Of course, once Nanoha and the rest meets the Templars who resist them, all hells break loose.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Automatism is the legal term, but unless they where basiclly being mind controlled this would be extremely shaky if they had ANY freewill or ability to consider their actions then this defense is pretty much invalid. This tends to be revered for stuff like people crashing cars because of sudden seizures or something, unstoppable biological processes basiclly, it's extremely hard to argue as a defense for criminal acts if the person shows even as shred of rationality or control of their actions.

Insanity is vaguely related defense in this instance you basiclly say "yeah I did it, BUT..." Basically you argue that while the actions are your own that you were so messed up in the head you didn't understand it was wrong at the time, basiclly you argue you didn't have criminal intent. This only works for SOME crimes that have an element of intent though mostly it's used in murder cases which tend to require malice or premeditation for conviction since being insane obviously makes forming either difficult it can be a valid defense in these cases. That said the fact you make it sound like they KNOW what they're doing is wrong means an insanity defense is basiclly impossible.

Uh, I was thinking along the line of "necessity" and "duress" in criminal law. Well, they aren't any stronger than others you've mentioned, and it won't save them from being put to prison, but probably it would affect a lighter sentencing? *shrug*

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Frankly the only sane thing is for her to meat force with force, she should just demand surrender and if refused she's done her part and given the chance to yield anything that happens henceforth is the assailants fault. Non-lethal force MIGHT be attempted first lethal force statutes are highly situation dependent, but rulings also tend to favor the officer in all but the most grievous of abuses. Fruther most officers are trained to react preemptively to some degree, waiting for the other guy to START shooting at you for instance is a pretty poor policy merely pointing the weapon at you is enough to justify lethal force in most cases, even if he dosen't intend to acutally use it the mere threat of violence is just cause. The equivalent here would most likely be that once a person begins channeling magic a threat to life is quite possibly imminent and lethal force to arrest said threat would be authorized. True they might be gathering energy for a teleport or stealth spell, but they could also be gathering energy for a SLB.

There is another important thing which is that officers may ALSO use lethal force if he perceives a threat to OTHERS by the suspect, given the rather inherently dangerous nature of much of magic any use in public could be consider a threat to bystanders and so rapid massive force to end the situation quickly and limit the damage would likely be SOP. This is vital as an officer need not only think of the threat to HIMSELF, but of the public which ought to be his first concern. Even if the threat to Hayate herself is low from a weaker magic user allowing him to just keep spamming spells and such in a populated area is unacceptable under this logic. Since even if she's not overly threatened by it one missed shot could easily kill dozens of bystanders and attempting to subdue him with nonlethal force might well take too long so in this case lethal force is the best option to limit the damage. Much like how in mass killings you tend to get a rather... limited attempt to talk a shooter down before they simply, take him down if they bother at all, many police departments advise simply ambushing and killing an active shooter without even bothering to attempt to get a surrender.

Such as this incident the officer simply snuck up behind the active shooter and blew his head off with a shotgun, he didn't even demand a surrender as the situation and suspect was clearly so dangerous that doing so would merely endanger MORE people then simply killing him when the opportunity presented itself.

The point is that lethal force is often justified to SAVE lives and an officer should be ready and willing to use it as the situation dictates.

Given what I know of LE procedures I personally feel the situation as described certainly warrants it, and the background of the case leads me to think the officers involved would have even less reluctance then normal to use it.

Yet, there is a weakness to reacting preemptively. If I remember correctly, there is one incident (I'm not sure if it happened in the US) where a police officer was following a man believed to be a criminal and shot the man when he put his hand into a pocket, under the impression that he was taking a gun out. However, it turned out that the information had been false, and the dead man didn't carry a gun at all, not even a knife. I don't quite remember the details, but it was quite messy.

In Nanohaverse, it would be difficult for someone with wide-area attacks like Hayate to use her spells without causing damage to her surroundings. If the Templars indeed choose to hide within the populace, she would do no better unless she uses a bind spell (which I, again, don't remember she having one).

Originally Posted by tshouryuu

Off-topic but... don't tell me you are an ODEX supporter...

Tormenk isn't.

Originally Posted by tshouryuu

Question. Why play with water vapour? Why not create a rainstorm? With so much rain flying around a defender would not know where an attack is coming from. If they put up a barrier to protect themselves, won't that prevent them from attacking as well as exhausting them trying to defend from an attack that may or may not be coming?

Oh, Sharazad has undergone some improvements, don't worry.

The idea of water vapor was to justify how the lab workers are forced to "sleep". The proposed idea that I had in mind was that the atmosphere was stuffed with water vapor to the extent of making it uncomfortable and difficult to breathe, hence they faint. The idea was shot down, and now Sharazad toys with gases.

Originally Posted by tshouryuu

Damn... I thought directly manipulating elements within a person is possible but mages are not affected due to auto barriers and fields innate to their barrier jackets/knight armour like how Sein's deep diver requires Lutecia to turn off her fields and barriers in order for the IS to affect her.

You get the idea.

Originally Posted by tshouryuu

I beg to differ. "Hydromancers" are only useless if they try to fight someone directly and hope to overwhelm them with pure brute force. Use of tactics and manipulate the environment to their advantage is the way to go.

Out in the open, create a rain storm and manipulate water to attack from various directions and either overwhelm them in the first attack or force them to defend and exhaust their magic form attacks that may or may not be there. Raise a fog if enemy reinforcements appear and run away.

If in enclosed space, encase the area where the enemy is with water and only water to drown/sufoccate them. So what if their BJs can filter gases/heat/etc. They still can't breathe if there isn't air to begin with.

If fighting near a large body of water, force/lure your opponent to it and use a whirlpool to pull her under.

I guess the whirlpool idea is still fresh in your mind.

To tell you the truth, Sharazad is indeed a tactical person. The only problem with the proposal of her as a viable hydromancer is because she's going against Hayate at the final battle.

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

Truth. Hayate can't handle high-speed dogfighting as well as Nanoha or Fate.
But that depends on wether or not that even if her legs are naked, she still has some field protection. I'm finding it a little dodgy to think to think that just because her legs are not covered with the 'fabric' of the Knight Armor doesn't mean that they're not protected. Barrier Jackets/Knight Armors have always been attributed to full-body defense. And there's a confirmed magical field covering the entire body during StrikerS 16. If Sharazad would be to grab Hayate's neck, hands or legs, I think she still has to go thru the magical defense on Hayate's skin.

Ugh... I remember this argument somewhere. Keroko-kun! You were the pioneer of this argument in the Tech thread, right?! A little help here!

We still have a widely exposed area, which happens to be the face. Mana disruption there and something's bound to go ... pop.

[Tormenk]Hand of Fate.[/Tormenk].

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

Can you tell?

Sharazad lures her to a hive of Scions and Heralds, who attack her with all their might. Then, Hayate goes ballistic, and makes use of her fullest power.

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

And I assume that Hayate does get grabbed by Sharazad but manages to survive and eke out a win somehow, right?

Sharazad won't go for the kill, even if she could do so. As I've said, Templars don't do that unless it's necessary.

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

Hurt how?

The said thing above, plus some bleeding heart plot, and someone got injured, and then ... the scenario goes as planned.

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

I want them to get really tired after pulling off something that big.

If they are indeed calling upon quint-elemental attacks at all in their pure forms, and not something that spilled out as a result from their single attack. Sharazad, at most, controls three, while the Saint can have a last resort attack of all five elements. And no, they don't get another chance for another attack after that.

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

So Unison with Rein is a must.

And another one.

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

Fine with me.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

That seems to be what the others wanted. Alright.

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

It seems like you have an alternative. But it's still highly subject to your preferences.

One vote from me, though.

Oi, what is this dual-answer?!

Still, not like it's not usable.

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

Heh. I just gave Haru an Academic Criticism Buster. He was being very hypocritical so I criticized him in an academic and professional way without including anything expressedly affronting. And thus, he has no ethical avenue of answering me in any other way than professional discourse. I may not be too intellectual, but I can give some long-winded spiels when I find an argument fundamentally flawed. I declare 'check' in my and Haru's little game of verbal chess. Institutionalization is not very viable as an argument for me since the entire forums is clearly made of several institions with varied views on objectivity. And even if he was right, he's not being objective most of the time and certainly shouldn't demand that from others when he is the source of any highly subjective arguments. If Haru replies with something academic yet has absolutely nothing to do with the topic, nonsense or not reply at all, I'll declare 'checkmate'.

It is most certainly undiplomatic to chuck the opinions of others out simply because "they don't contain debatable ideas". Resorting to that either means that you couldn't find a suitable counter, or you just simply refuse to accept. And it's a dirty low-blow, to say the least.

Nice going there, Aaron!

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

BTW, no response for Grandis' profile?

I still have a lot of backlog to go through, fastest would be Saturday. Sorry about that.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

The second one doesn’t suit her at all IMO, but the first one acutally isn’t terrible IMO if you brought the pants up all the way I think it would look good.

Uh, I think that's the stockings, not the pants.

[Kyral]

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Indeed *hands Kyral congratulatory beer since all Germans love beer*

Thanks!
But I thought it was more like: everyone loves german beer!

Originally Posted by FlameSparkZ

Oh, well...I'll just split this last part in two

Spoiler for Knight's Ordeal - Part 6:

*snip*

And this song would fit the last part of their battle quite nicely

EDIT:

Spoiler for The attacks:

Ok...so here's how they go...

Spoiler for Dark Koji:

Kanji: 告死! 洋紅斬剣!!!
Romanji: Kokushi! Youkou Zanken!!!
English: Death Announcement! Crimson Killer Blade!!!

Comments: "Kokushi" is a reference to the Gamebot Advance (and now also for PSP) RPG, Riviera: The Promissed Land
Ein/Ecthel and Ledah are in the english version called Grim Angels, but in the original version are "Kokushi Tenshi", which literally means "Death Announcement Angels"
When executing their ultimate attacks, before calling out the attack they say "Kokushi!", to announce their opponent's death

The rest of the attack's name is based on Darkness Knight's attack in a translated piece of the game.
His attack's full name is Demon Sign: Dark Murdering Blade (魔刻冥斬剣)
I just twinked it a bit

Spoiler for Koji:

Kanji: 空我!風神一閃!!!
Romanji: Kuuga! Fuujin Issen!!!
English: Clear-self! Wind God Flash!!!

Comments: Kuuga is the name of the third Demon Sword in Summon Night: Swordcraft Story 2
And it's wind-type, though, you can't use it

I'll post the rest soon
*runs off*

Go Koji!
Errr... the one who is left!!

Originally Posted by USB500

Where's everyone?

TEARS OF THE NORTHERN WIND
CHAPTER 5

Spoiler for part 1:

*snip*

Spoiler for part 2:

*snap*

Spoiler for part 3:

*snup*

Spoiler for part 4:

LOLI-ALERT!!

I get this feeling that some of us want to kill Hikki already after reading this chapter.

*runs*

It was cute
So don't worry abaut it.

Originally Posted by tshouryuu

I can only offer this as an explanation on why their BJ are like that.

Spoiler for NSFW:

Ah yes... the joy of armor class! xD

[Chaos2Frozen]

@TK


Thanks for the info

To be exact, long before your time here, I was planning to tell the tale of the previous generation of mages, Clyde, Lindy, Leti, Graham... The old timers. I was going with the assumption that during their time, the Administration Bureau were still in the process of cleaning the multiverse, so there'll be conflicts left and right.

One of the main concern I figured, was the removal of conventional weapons. Just like how the Riot Forces on are sent to seal Lost Logias, I was imagining a special task force that would be responsible back then to mop up hostile groups who traffic and use these weapons.

I've decided to categorize them under counter-Terrorism.

And to answer your question, it's all of the above, investigation, apprehension and transportation of the weapons if they have to.

Originally Posted by USB500

Daring? I don't know about it yet. But we'll see.

Hmm... Dark Widuri/Dark Spica hawt daring action.....

*runs from Jeno & Hikki*

Must... Kill... USB...

...
...
...

No, wait... What was I thinking...


MUST... KILL... HIKKI...!!!

[FlameSparkZ]

Ikuzo!!!

kisama mezawari da...kore de OWARI DA!!!

BACKLOG SMASHER: QUOTING SHIFT!!!

Originally Posted by Liingo

Well thats Dark Koji finished and dusted. Now for him to leave and for Maren to bring out her plan to ensare him

Heh...mada mada desu yo

Originally Posted by FieryAeon

Koji learned Barrier of the Wind king? Or something similar?

Those attack names are cool. Overall I liked how the chapter went. Must see Altea soon!

Yeah, she'll appear on the next part

Originally Posted by FieryAeon

Actually, that's her giant hat!!! Believe it or not. The colour is a bit misleading though, since its almost the same shade as her hair colour. Its kinda like those olden days court jesters' hat, except a LOT bigger and without the bells.

Yep, it's a really big hat

Originally Posted by USB500

No pictures this time but this is one EPIC chapter that deserves a lot of from me.

The next one will have pictures, you can count on that

Originally Posted by tshouryuu

Damn... I thought directly manipulating elements within a person is possible but mages are not affected due to auto barriers and fields innate to their barrier jackets/knight armour like how Sein's deep diver requires Lutecia to turn off her fields and barriers in order for the IS to affect her.

Thank goodness for that...or else

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

AWESOME!

This reminds me of some animes of old. Good finish with the battle!

Yeah, it does
Sometimes you just have to win via sheer power,and not just sweet words

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

I see your point. But man... That guy's...

Though I guess we agree that there is magic there, right. Though the likely solution there is Sharazad just using her own magic (thought different in nature) to get past.

And thus, we are shown one exploitable weakness of having a fanservicy outfit in Magical Girl shows. I'm starting to find it quite entertainingly silly that the elite mages get less protection from that kind of technique compared to grunts just because they show more skin. Maybe Hayate should consider using Zettai Ryouiki on her legs (like Nanoha and Fate) when fighting with Templars. Since Nanoha was shown to imagine her outfit for herself during the first season. Though I do wonder if that would suit her appearance in general... Photoshoppers?

Err...even if there's an area that isn't directly protected by the barrier jacket...I still think it's enveloped by the barrier and field.

If not...then they would get targeted with headshots...a lot

Originally Posted by LoweGear

<.<

>.>

*jumps in*

Spoiler for *Drops Package*:

*runs*

Somehow, it feels wrong

How about adding socks to Hayate's barrier jacket?

Originally Posted by tshouryuu

I can only offer this as an explanation on why their BJ are like that.

Spoiler for NSFW:

Yes...it's a known rule in the list of RPG cliches

I guess the enemy sees so much skin it doesn't know where to attack

Originally Posted by Erio

APPROVED.

lol

I [B]APPROVE as well

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

The first, I can imagine...
The second, does not suit her...

How about applying it to her Knight Armor? Recoloring most of her legs shouldn't be too hard, right? Sorry for being a bother. >_<

Great minds think alike?

Originally Posted by LoweGear

And lesson to Dark Koji: Never mess with Koji by bringing up Maren, or you're guaranteed instant ownage

Originally Posted by Keroko

And thats that for dark Koji. Nice battle, though the 'erase your emotions' thing made me go but thats just a personal gripe of mine.

Well...it's not really 'erase emotions'
If he just follows the flow of battle without thinking and only reacting, then there's no emotions involved in it

Originally Posted by Keroko

Barrier Jackets again? Good thing internet is fixed then.

First of, do Barrier Jackets give protection even to unclothed areas? Yes. Take a look at this manga page:

Spoiler for IS: Silver Retriever:

Barrier Jackets create both a field and a barrier, now why would you limit the area of protection to what is clothed if you can make it cover the entire body? Seems like the most logical choice is to make it cover the entire body. Does this stop people from grabbing you? Of course not. It does, however, protect one from incomming attacks. Not completely (its an automated defence, after all, it not nearly as powerfull as one made with actual effort) but it does suit to soften blows, and logically eliminate the damage of lower-tier attacks.

I think so too [/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by PhoenixFlare

Ah, Riviera: the Promised Land, one of the best action-RPG for Gameboy Advance by Sting. This is a nice chapter indeed, with Koji defeating his dark self, mastering a wind-blade attack from Signum's tutelage, not unlike Shiro from Saber.

Originally Posted by PhoenixFlare

Notus, hmm, from Ogre Battle?

Hmm, no...
It's greek mythology, Notus is the name given to the south wind, which brings storm and the heat of summer

Originally Posted by PhoenixFlare

By the way, have you played Yggdra Union? That's also a nice tactical game from the same producer of Riviera.

I sure did

Originally Posted by Kyral

Go Koji!
Errr... the one who is left!!

...

Well, not to finish this last part and move on with BreakerS
*runs*

[Wild Goose]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

@TK
Thanks for the info

To be exact, long before your time here, I was planning to tell the tale of the previous generation of mages, Clyde, Lindy, Leti, Graham... The old timers. I was going with the assumption that during their time, the Administration Bureau were still in the process of cleaning the multiverse, so there'll be conflicts left and right.

One of the main concern I figured, was the removal of conventional weapons. Just like how the Riot Forces on are sent to seal Lost Logias, I was imagining a special task force that would be responsible back then to mop up hostile groups who traffic and use these weapons.

I've decided to categorize them under counter-Terrorism.

And to answer your question, it's all of the above, investigation, apprehension and transportation of the weapons if they have to.

That actually sounds a lot like the OFM which Lindy helped to set up and O'Neill hijacked into the small TSAB black ops, though these guys seem more overt... *looks carefully*

Ahh, you're thinking counter-terrorist Enforcers hunting down guys still using conventional weapons, eh? They'd see quite a bit of action on the planets Erusia and Sotoa then, what with the resistance movements against the TSAB on both planets...

Guess your concept is closer to SWAT, while the OFM is a mix of Gar, hot blood, Johnson, tunderekko, black ops, Section Nine, and ODST. <.<

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by FlameSparkZ

Well...it's not really 'erase emotions'
If he just follows the flow of battle without thinking and only reacting, then there's no emotions involved in it

Actually, following the flow of the battle without thinking and only reacting means your're fighting with your instincts, and since instincts rely on your emotions...

Sorry, its just that the descritption you just gave is pretty much the same as Keroko's fighting style, and Keroko fights with her emotions on a constant basis. Hell, its pretty much the source of her strength.