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View Poll Results: Macross Frontier: Sayonara no Tsubasa Movie Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 40 | 42.11% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 33 | 34.74% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 12 | 12.63% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 5 | 5.26% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 3.16% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 2.11% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2011-11-24, 01:43 | Link #3441 | |
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I'm speaking about Ranka's Japanese fanbase. They have always been very open they like wincest-siscon end or Yuri over Alto. That's why the official fanservice with Ranka mostly involves Sheryl or Brera and very rarely Alto (unless it's a Triangle shot).
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2011-11-24, 02:37 | Link #3443 | |
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And I doubt that they really want Ranka with herself - that's a Sheryl only thing to me. Now, with Brera, most fans only like them to be brother and sister (or friends) and very rarely do they hit romance. I mean, 90% of them are not into Ore no Imouto now; so I doubt that. But her with Sheryl, that's a given, since most of the time, two main female leads are always drawn together. I can name many anime fanbases where the fans pair the two female leads up in fanarts, even to the point of romance. But there are quite a lot of Alto/Ranka fanart out there, enough to make at least twelve dozen books, and thensome if we include fics and doujins; so it's not like they aren't popular, it's just that people don't really want to publish work about them only to be bashed. A lot of people out there want you to praise their work for how they wrote, drew, or portrayed it; not because you hate or dislike the couple, and nowadays, people don't give a shit about that anymore; so they'd rather keep their work to themselves. Hell, even I have ten amvs and twenty fanfics that I keep to myself without publishing because I'd rather have people tell me how my writing style has improved instead of wasting a review or comment telling me how they hated the couple. People don't know what a back button is anymore either... I was being sarcastic. For once someone noticed without me having to state it outwardly. Thank you, Michi.
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2011-11-24, 02:42 | Link #3444 | ||
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It's easy to fall for Sheryl: charming, hot superstar who he hits off rather well? Now Sheryl falling for someone like Alto and showing that cute side of hers sooner needed a push to cram many episodes development in two movies (and the time between them- three months or so?). Quote:
And of course, Kiss in the Galaxy. Mangaka supports and gives goodies to the fans of those two and Ranka/Sheryl (with nurse Sheryl and her patient Ranka ). Yuri's a given.
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2011-11-24, 04:37 | Link #3445 |
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Some of you guys seem to forget the huge bias japanese anime/manga/games have for incest. I mean, in an industry that gives us stuff like Yosuga no Sora, Aki Sora and lots of others, what is there to be surprised about?
Also, the triangle is over. Boo-fucking-hoo. Some people will never get over it, will they?
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2011-11-24, 04:46 | Link #3446 | |
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@Beto, the way we always have to go back to the triangle...I don't think so.
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2011-11-24, 05:25 | Link #3448 | ||||||
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You can say all you want about what you think of the scene, but Kawamori made it very clear that the first movie barely showed progression towards Alto and Sheryl being "smitten" with each other. Quote:
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Why are we discussing official art when your argument was about unofficial art? Quote:
But a lot of incest is mostly created by either people who have similar situations or ones who don't have a close net family and desire attention from their significant other (brother or sister). And the same works for parents too. It is rare for someone with a normal life (and normal relationship) to write incest and get it published. The mere thought disgusts people in that situation, so all of the shows you described above are from these people. Macross Frontier doesn't relate. Quote:
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2011-11-24, 07:37 | Link #3449 | |
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I'd think it's the singing, the mechas and the rousing stories of romance amidst wars, but that's just me.
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2011-11-24, 08:16 | Link #3450 | |
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I do think you're quite the interesting person when you're not doing that, and your passion for your ship rivals that of Harmony shippers, I'll give you that. But let's not indulge in victim mentality here, people aren't bashing your posts because it's Aruran slanted, but that you put so little thought and care into preparing your posts and, 90% of the time, follow it up with "What I mean is..." with more ramblings to come. Declaring stupid statements, hurling out emotionally charged shipping Livejournal-standard rants, and then being utterly unprepared to be challenged, are a few examples, if you're wondering. You have some very interesting ideas, some ripe for interesting conversations, but then you overshadow them with your tendency to ramble whimsically and play the Word of God, and then it's hello, Facepalm. So anyway. Aruran fans? We love Aruran fans. Heck, you know what? I bloody miss them. They're awesome people. Sir Dex-kun is the long lost seme with a taste for angsty, shoujo heroines like Tak. Mei19, with her infuriating bolded trolls rose up to near top of my list just for her love for JGS, bless her heart. We haven't seen Ani_D, but she does have a thing for Westlo before he moved onto justavisitor while cheating on Nat, because he has a thing for Strange People. Some had gracefully conceded and moved on when Aruran ship lost, as seen earlier, and this makes them more of a champ than one who spent nine months frothing in rage when official franchise refuse to validate their fanfiction. -- I am sad that my harem has graduated, but I will be in my hobo cave regardless, for I know they will return to me, the Lady Cheese one day. *sips tea* |
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2011-11-24, 08:55 | Link #3452 | ||
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+1 for missing Dex
I was going to ask what it was you did that resulted in your disappearance last week...but now, I'm just going to assume it was セクハラ Quote:
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An interesting revelation from one of Yoshino's interviews (I can't quite remember which one - might be the one in the Complete Book, or perhaps the one in the fanbook, as those are the two I've skimmed recently...), however, reveals that Kawamori might be the one that everyone has to rein in. IIRC (don't quote me on this yet!), the advice/encouragement that Ohnogi apparently gave to Yoshino upon the latter's induction into Macross at the planning stage of Frontier was something like 'good luck reining Kawamori in'! ===== p.s. To all of you whom this concerns: you're welcome . Although...whilst I do like being thanked, I definitely like fun discussions a fair bit more. You know, stuff that will help us avoid certain topics that have gone round and round in circles. Like...doesn't anyone want to talk about what the next major Macross project will be and what technological developments (if any) they might have to attain before Kawamori will set it in motion? Of course, maybe that doesn't quite fit in this thread...
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2011-11-24, 09:13 | Link #3453 | |
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2011-11-24, 10:33 | Link #3456 | |
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And yet...as I said...there's a ton of doujinshi out there about her. So if Raile's saying that some fan-made productions are proof of what the majority of fans want...well, I find that logic lacking.
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2011-11-24, 11:25 | Link #3458 |
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All I did was shatter LMK's fervent illusions that not a lot of fans support any incestuous subtext between Ranka and Brera, and that it's only looked at with platonic family love.
Is that so wrong? (No, not to me.)
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2011-11-24, 11:26 | Link #3459 |
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Maybe fan-made productions aren't always representative of what the majority of the fanbase want and we as Alto/Sheryl shippers have just been blessed with quite the active circles.
But when doujin circles aren't drawing Alto/Ranka either because the couple isn't that appealing to them or they don't think it'll sell enough, and yet they take the time to draw a Brera/Ranka anthology (or yet another Brera/Ranka doujin), I think there is some truth in that statement. At least I didn't see many, Alto/Ranka doujins pop out even after the second movie release. Of course this is just an opinion as well, since I'm not there to run an actual observational study on the matter. @ Magnus the untold truth about Alto's motivation! |
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