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Old 2018-06-23, 16:30   Link #1141
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Maybe fake scan?

But nah, you can see the page was ripped in anger
Must've been Yoshino's fan
He infiltrated the magazine's storeroom, took 1 copy and read it
Overcame with anger, ripped the page and then scan uploaded it to share his anger with us
Well, it wouldn’t be hard to photoshop the page rip in a scan. But no, I don’t think it’s a fake scan; the art is too good and accurate. I just think it may be somebody taking the scan out of context to fool everyone.

But is it bad that I honestly believe somebody might actually do that storeroom break-in thing.......?

EDIT: *reads wuguhm’s newest post* Oh, maybe not that out-of-context after all.
And ninja’d-ish.
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Old 2018-06-23, 16:31   Link #1142
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I did pretty much say Aki was the author’s intended girl way back when.
But if you’re talking about the story stuff and not specifically which girl would win, I apologize.
I was talking about the direction of the story in general. When the author was developing Aki alone, fine. Everything was all fine and dandy, but when you introduce a Yoshino sub-plot and make it seem like "okay, we're switching gears from Aki to Yoshino and this is the final stretch" but then pull the rug from out under us and hit a bait n' switch. That's where the dissatisfaction comes in. Author tried their damned hardest to make us think that Yoshino was endgame and most had accepted that, but then this happens...

Mind you, I was always a Yoshino shipper, but deep down I always knew Aki would've won... That was until this Yoshino sub-plot actually gave me a sliver of hope that Yoshino just might win this... only to get trolled in such magnificent fashion.

So again, to reiterate: I'm not mad that Aki won, I'm mad about the means used to achieve said result.
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Old 2018-06-23, 16:34   Link #1143
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So again, to reiterate: I'm not mad that Aki won, I'm mad about the means used to achieve said result.
On that I have no disagreements. I’ve been down that road myself before......
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Old 2018-06-23, 16:36   Link #1144
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Too much rage in my heart. I thought we entering a golden age of non-main heroine endings. Just fuck my shit up man, the way he just pulled a fast one on us, it reminds me way too much of Tsuki Tsuki.
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Old 2018-06-23, 16:39   Link #1145
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^The maid there was best too

Main heroine is always on higher level than other heroines, at this point you can call it destiny
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Old 2018-06-23, 16:42   Link #1146
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That’s why I always go in expecting a main girl ending. I disagree that the main girl ending is ridiculous or that there aren’t enough non-main girl endings, but the main girl ending is indeed more mainstream. But the whole point of having a main girl is for that girl to be the main, after all; just like the author makes an MC so the story focuses mainly on him/her, not on other characters.

And while there was a bit of bait-and-switch, there’s no point (usually) in a love triangle, or harem, if it’s obvious one girl is going to win. Just look at Macross Delta.
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Old 2018-06-23, 16:45   Link #1147
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^The maid there was best too

Main heroine is always on higher level than other heroines, at this point you can call it destiny
At this point I'm more frustrated at myself for not expecting anything other then a main heroine end
I dropped this series and had the gall to pick it back up again because I believed in hope. Fuck me right? Everyday, I get closer and closer to agreeing with Kakine Teitoku
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Old 2018-06-23, 16:47   Link #1148
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^I feel you bro

^^Macross Delta is a fail Macross
Easily worst triangle ever
Mirage had no chance

But Macross, and Naruto etc, are not pure romance stories, so romantic resolution is secondary
But Masamune's Revenge is pure romantic, if the main theme (romance) is predictable, then it failed as one
It could succeed if it did single heroine style from the start, no need for Neko or Yoshino to become heroines

Do it like that masterpiece Kore wa Koi no Hanashi, single heroine, best main heroine ever~
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Old 2018-06-23, 16:50   Link #1149
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Everyday, I get closer and closer to agreeing with Kakine Teitoku
About bitches and whores?
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Old 2018-06-23, 16:54   Link #1150
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^I feel you bro

^^Macross Delta is a fail Macross
Easily worst triangle ever
Mirage had no chance

But Macross, and Naruto etc, are not pure romance stories, so romantic resolution is secondary
But Masamune's Revenge is pure romantic, if the main theme (romance) is predictable, then it failed as one
It could succeed if it did single heroine style from the start, no need for Neko or Yoshino to become heroines

Do it like that masterpiece Kore wa Koi no Hanashi, single heroine, best main heroine ever~
Macross may not be only romance, but the romance is most definitely always front and center.
But the romance actually wasn’t predictable here; if everybody knew it would be an Aki ending, nobody would have been thinking Yoshino won until the last chapter.
And the end result is irrelevant to judging predictability. Everybody can call the score when the game is over.
But that said, like I stated it is safer to go in expecting a main girl end. Not that there aren’t enough non-main girl endings as I also said, though.
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Old 2018-06-23, 17:02   Link #1151
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Honestly though this side relationship with master wasn't a waste of time.

1. Yoshino got to clear her conscience and remove the idea that she must sacrifice for aki.

2. Aki could go into the relationship without feeling like she's chosen out of pity or regret or clinging to the past.

3. Masamune got his revenge and cleared his need to cling to the past.

Could it have been done better? yea... about as much as bleaches ending could have been done better but we got what we got.

Is master still best girl? of freaking course how could anyone doubt that?

Well the only salt i've got is the Aki fan tears i've been lapping up over the last couple of months and i aint giving it back. just gonna laugh and enjoy the ending.
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Old 2018-06-23, 17:06   Link #1152
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I like that idea.
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Old 2018-06-23, 17:11   Link #1153
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About bitches and whores?
That, and hardwork and hope.
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Old 2018-06-23, 17:15   Link #1154
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That, and hardwork and hope.
oh i thought you were becoming a lolicon insect or something
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Old 2018-06-23, 17:17   Link #1155
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oh i thought you were becoming a lolicon insect or something
Being on the losing side everytime makes me feel closer and closer to an insect more then anything. Especially ruse endings like this
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Old 2018-06-23, 17:19   Link #1156
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Being on the losing side everytime makes me feel closer and closer to an insect more then anything. Especially ruse endings like this
I know the feeling just look at my avatar and sig. things just aren't playing out the way i want them to lately.

ever since Kagami no Kuni no Harisugawa i've been on a losing streak.
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Old 2018-06-23, 17:21   Link #1157
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Honestly though this side relationship with master wasn't a waste of time.

1. Yoshino got to clear her conscience and remove the idea that she must sacrifice for aki.

2. Aki could go into the relationship without feeling like she's chosen out of pity or regret or clinging to the past.

3. Masamune got his revenge and cleared his need to cling to the past.

Could it have been done better? yea... about as much as bleaches ending could have been done better but we got what we got.

Is master still best girl? of freaking course how could anyone doubt that?

Well the only salt i've got is the Aki fan tears i've been lapping up over the last couple of months and i aint giving it back. just gonna laugh and enjoy the ending.
When you put it like that, it does sound a hell of a lot better, but it still doesn't excuse that abomination of a last chapter imo.

Pretty sure all the salt accumulated from Aki fan tears isn't even a fraction of the salt produced by every single Yoshino fan that got trolled.
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Old 2018-06-23, 17:25   Link #1158
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When you put it like that, it does sound a hell of a lot better, but it still doesn't excuse that abomination of a last chapter imo.

Pretty sure all the salt accumulated from Aki fan tears isn't even a fraction of the salt produced by every single Yoshino fan that got trolled.
dunno i'm a yoshino fan but i didn't necessarily need her to win. I was a bit disappointed things turned out this way cause it feels a little trollish but it's not really gonna ruin my day. If masamune doesn't want her then she can just be one of my many unchosen waifus. Though i do think the rage of some will surpass me by quite a bit.

In the end i think the same thing could have been accomplished in a better way if this is the ending the author had in mind is all.
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Old 2018-06-23, 19:56   Link #1159
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Aaah ahhh

Scratch that

It's definitely real

Here's another page

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I told you that trope is freaking strong
This guy called himself the prophet...

LOL

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^Delusional people is delusional

He is allergic to Neko too, bakayarou
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
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Old 2018-06-23, 20:29   Link #1160
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Mind you, I was always a Yoshino shipper, but deep down I always knew Aki would've won... That was until this Yoshino sub-plot actually gave me a sliver of hope that Yoshino just might win this... only to get trolled in such magnificent fashion.
I think all of us knew the endgame of this manga but was hoping it would break the trope. Author trolled his readers hard in giving a possible Yoshino ending and then going back to Aki one chapter afterwards.

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This guy called himself the prophet...

LOL
I think your problem is you took his words seriously.
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