2012-01-07, 23:58 | Link #1765 | |
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Aren't most of them work-a-holics anyway? The only reason they're even bothering to take time off is because Vivio, Lutecia and Meiura are all participating.
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2012-01-08, 05:59 | Link #1767 |
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And that's why I feel it's quite unfair, since these elite TSAB mages tend to have far more combat experience than any teacher could viably imbue, easily.
In-fact, that's why I argue that Lutecia in ViVid is quite broken, for the simple fact that she has miles more REAL combat experience than all but a handful of her potential opponents. In addition to her Freakishly prodigious power, at the mere age of 10. And so to would Fate Testarossa have been at the age 18. An 18 years old Fate likely could have routed almost any opponent on the DSAA without actual combat experience. Fighting for your life is a very good teacher. Witness how many ranks the Forwards gained in Striker S, and how many times they fought for their lives. Remember Teena vs the 3 Combat Cyborgs? That's one example of what I'm taking about here. |
2012-01-08, 06:19 | Link #1768 | |
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It also largely depends on their jobs in the bureau. Teana and Fate were out of shape like hell compared to StrikerS because their jobs involve a lot of desk work. And Erio and Caro don't participate because it's just not their thing. Something which can apply to a good majority of the cast. Not really. Sure, TSAB mages have more life-or-death combat experience, but that's not quite as relevant in a tournament where the battles aren't life-or-death. But when it comes to martial arts, a normal person can get the same amount of training done just fine. |
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2012-01-08, 06:33 | Link #1769 |
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I don't think it's really fair to have artificial mages in a tournament. Artificial mages are designer babies, and Vivio and Lutecia had a really good (if crazy) designer
but well.. I suppose it's not too bad for people like Miura to get some experience fighting freaks like that I'm curious if Nanoha or Teana ever participated in DSAA before, though. I'm pretty sure Signum would have been interested if she wasn't a few hundred years too old
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2012-01-08, 14:21 | Link #1770 | |
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According the StrikerS manga Special chapter it's implied that the broadcasted fight between Nanoha and Signum was the final one of a series of battles(possibly implying that both are finalists)? That means the TSAB also have it's own internal tournaments?
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2012-01-08, 14:37 | Link #1771 | |
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Showing off stuff. So not a tournament. |
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2012-01-08, 14:39 | Link #1773 |
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So, we can asume those were a bunch of exhibition matches mashed togheter? Well, it's not rare to hear of exhibition tournaments either xD.
you know, having a tournament just for the sake of showing cool stuff to the audience(like the Tenkaichi Budokai for example xD).
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2012-01-09, 15:53 | Link #1774 | |
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Though Nanoha can't use her strongest spell.... (Though I imagine the stadium would be full of leftover mana for Nanoha to recycle into Starlight Breaker.) Though I think flight is disallowed? (No Aerial mages so far, hmm.....) I am sad that Erio didn't join, cause it would have been interesting to see him fight more... A curious topic would be Lutecia's Limiter, it doesn't seem like a D rank, so maybe they raised it to B rank? (Which would be the average rank for intermediate level mages) |
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2012-01-09, 16:04 | Link #1775 | ||
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I also think Lutecia's limiter(if any) was toned down(her reflect beam spell looks pretty complicated and powerfull for a D-rank mage).
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2012-01-09, 16:18 | Link #1776 | |
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Isn`t it annoying to learn to fight at different levels with the limiters ? I can`t imagine being easy to just instantly getting used to the limiter`s being on and off...
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2012-01-09, 20:03 | Link #1777 |
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Ohhhhh!!
Finally got the issue with the rounds cleared thanks to the translation. A match is comprissed of 4 rounds of 4 minutes each. The fights are really short but i gues what were looking is the Dragon Ball Z effect when movement speed and toughts are slowed down to help the reades to keep track of what's happening.
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2012-01-09, 23:25 | Link #1779 |
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I agree
but that only applies to nameless mooks like the one Einhart knocked out in in less then two minutes all the named characters so far do not seem to fall under "your average TSAB mage" heck, Vivio's friends are all monsters Einhart has Hegemon genes Rio is a mutant with dual elements Corona is a golem prodigy So it kinda makes me wonder about the kind of people our main characters hang out with.. are these people friends because they're all born/created above average and drawn to each other? or is there something about this friendship that pushes an otherwise normal person to beyond their limit? It's hard for me to answer since most of Nanoha characters do not have normal origins
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2012-01-10, 00:50 | Link #1780 |
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I wouldn't be bothered by the named characters being more powerful than the 'grunt soldiers'... but the setting is that of an intermediate-level tournament for what is essentially a junior age-group. The same setting acknowledges that there's a level/age group that's higher than their current playing field.
It's the same sense as Prince of Tennis. The setting is that of a U-15 National-level tournament. The anime's mainly the one guilty of this, but it's difficult for me to take it seriously when you put in The US Open in the same magnitude. And every now and then, the so-called 'tennis pros or semi-pros' are humiliated before them 'Princes of Tennis' when it logically doesn't make any sense that 13-15 year olds are wrecking 'professional-tier grunts.'
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